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Thanks, interesting product. I enjoyed the review but at least one sonic comparison would have been nice. Or do you believe that all streamers sound the same?

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2 hours ago, audiobomber said:

Thanks, interesting product. I enjoyed the review but at least one sonic comparison would have been nice. Or do you believe that all streamers sound the same?

 

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The Volumio Primo faces certainly some strong competition with the both upcoming Allo USBridge Signature and Allo Revolution USB-DAC.

Further competition for around 1k is the Lindemann Limetree streamer plus DAC.

 

Matt

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35 minutes ago, matthias said:

The Volumio Primo faces certainly some strong competition with the both upcoming Allo USBridge Signature and Allo Revolution USB-DAC.

Further competition for around 1k is the Lindemann Limetree streamer plus DAC.

Also Pro-Ject Stream Box S2, SOtM sMs-200 & Sonore microRendu. Even the little Raspberry Pi has upped its game with the 4th version.

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"The OS runs out of RAM to improve audio quality."

 

Neat trick that!

 

Thanks for the enjoyable and concise review.  Quite clear you have everything else in an order that allows focus on what you're drawn towards in the new component under observation.

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Thanks for the review. I suggest that you give your self more time to make a conclusion and then write your review. Second, When you mention that "it holds up very well" you should clarify what your benchmark is.

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Id be curious to see how it stacks up against the MiniDSP SHD studio. A bit more expensive at $899 but you get Dirac built in and the Studios is all digital and takes an outboard (ie: upgradeable) power supply. Frankly I am quite surprised this Volumio streamer isn't getting way more traction in the forums here. I mean come on we all have great DACS here on this website.

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On 7/27/2019 at 4:56 AM, audiobomber said:

Thanks, interesting product. I enjoyed the review but at least one sonic comparison would have been nice. Or do you believe that all streamers sound the same?

 

Since it's a streamers role to deliver content bit perfectly, they should all sound the same, and if this one fails at such a task, then it's broken... 🤣

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5 hours ago, Bill_G said:

 

Since it's a streamers role to deliver content bit perfectly, they should all sound the same, and if this one fails at such a task, then it's broken... 🤣

I assume you are saying this based on "scientific" theory and not actual listening experience? 🙄

 

I use Chromecast Audio, Raspberry Pi 3 B+ and SOtM sMs-200 streamers. I can assure you that none are broken, and none sound alike. The streamers even sound different from themselves when I change power supplies. This should not surprise anyone who actually listens and doesn't have a closed mind.

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20 minutes ago, audiobomber said:

I assume you are saying this based on "scientific" theory and not actual listening experience? 🙄

 

I use Chromecast Audio, Raspberry Pi 3 B+ and SOtM sMs-200 streamers. I can assure you that none are broken, and none sound alike. The streamers even sound different from themselves when I change power supplies. This should not surprise anyone who actually listens and doesn't have a closed mind.


A performance analysis with a lab grade audio analyzer showing actual differences in output, or it only happened in your brain. That'll be the only evidence anyone with a extensive science and engineering background will ever accept. Our senses are too unreliable, too easily fooled by our emotion states and perceptions, to be accepted as valid evidence. So, yes... my mind is closed to opinions and anecdotal "evidence"... 👨🏾‍⚕️

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35 minutes ago, Bill_G said:

So, yes... my mind is closed

That is the only part of your post I can agree with.

 

I have a mechanical engineering background, people who design audio equipment have deep engineering and/or scientific backgrounds. Some of them post here. So your opinion that all engineers agree with your "measurements only" POV is clearly egotistical nonsense.

 

My audio beliefs are based on extensive listening in my own system. Until I confirm it for myself, in my room, through my system, with my music, for an extended period, everything is just another opinion.

 

I like to view measurements of audio gear, but measurements alone have not stood up to my personal reality test as a predictor of sound quality. I won't reply further, as this discussion is not about the Primo.

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16 minutes ago, audiobomber said:

I won't reply further, as this discussion is not about the Primo.


I didn't start my debate with an ad hominem attack. So, it seems that my ego isn't as dysfunctional as yours... 🖕🏾

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This article started off with a brilliant dictionary definition of where the conversation on it is going.  Surely I cannot be the only one wondering which of you will gain the upper hand by the time you've finished working out your act.  

 

primo | ˈprēmō |


noun (plural primos) Music
the leading or upper part in a duet.

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Because I like to use reference points to understand where a product's relative advantages may lay, it seems to me that the hardware benchmark in this space is the Auralic Aries femto or Mini. Or the Sonore mRendu/ultra. Or one of those DDC reclockers like Singer? 

 

I can't speak for and don't understand the software side as it all seems so DIY Github-hauntingly discouraging unless you pony up for Roon (I don't; my own problem). Anyway, it's helpful to see the software a little since that's what you touch. I wish we got as much software analysis as hardware.

 

And for me, it seems the major hardware contenders recently are the Pro-Ject Streambox S2 Ultra or the Allo Digi-One Signature (and assorted power options and cables which have to be factored in as well). I wasn't aware of the updates to some of these mentioned earlier–thanks. And if you're gonna stretch maybe the Metrum Acoustics Ambre?

 

So many choices and configurations, who has time to listen to music? 😉


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Just heard Hans' review of the software in the video above. Thanks, @audiobomber


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Thanks Chris.  It was fun playing with the system up there.  The iPad does seem to not like to come back to the Primo hot spot. every time.  So If I leave it overnight or sometimes a couple of hours I have to reselect the device again.  Still in all it was fun.

 

 

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