The Environmental thread + Conventional (HI-FI) wisdom is almost always invariably wrong

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10 minutes ago, semente said:

Most people who listen to my demonstrations are so profoundly riddled with cognitive biases, that they are effectively unable to make any worthwhile observation nor judgement concerning what they’ve listened to.

 

 

In other words:

Most people who listen to my demonstrations are ignorant and so profoundly riddled with cognitive biases, that they are totally unable to recognize the awesome sound of the system I put together. 

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7 minutes ago, semente said:

 

Have you read the whole piece?

 

No. Did he say something besides “People who don’t listen for the same things I do are wrong?”

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6 hours ago, semente said:

 

Have you read the whole piece?

 

I went ahead and took the time to read the article. To me it’s basically a rehash of Joanathan Valin’s sneering at what he calls the “As You Like It” audiophile. Oh, he gives them his permission to be like that as long as they realize their taste in audio reproduction is inferior to his. To each his own. 

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17 hours ago, semente said:

Someone posted this pretty postcard in another forum...

 

 50% of animals gone since 1970

https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2019/sep/18/losing-species-shocking-rates-why-conservation-failing

 99% of Rhinos gone since 1914.
 97% of Tigers gone since 1914.
 90% of Lions gone since 1993.
 90% of Sea Turtles gone since 1980.
 90% of Monarch Butterflies gone since 1995.
 90% of Big Ocean Fish gone since 1950.
 80% of Antarctic Krill gone since 1975.
 80% of Western Gorillas gone since 1955.
 60% of Forest Elephants gone since 1970.
 50% of Great Barrier Reef gone since 1985.
 50% of Human Sperm Counts gone since 1950.
 50% of Forest Bird Species will be gone in 50 years.
 40% of Giraffes gone since 2000.
 40% of ocean phytoplankton gone since 1950.
http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/phytoplankton-population/
 Ocean plankton declines of 1% per year means 50% gone in 70 years, declines of more than 1%/yr are likely.
 Ocean plastic is killing bacteria that make 10% of our oxygen.
https://futurism.com/the-byte/plastic-killing-bacteria-oxygen
https://www.onegreenplanet.org/environment/plankton-under-threat-tiny-life-in-major-need-of-your-help/
https://www.irishtimes.com/news/environment/plastic-eaten-by-plankton-may-impair-oceans-ability-to-trap-co2-1.3875434
https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2016/jun/02/microplastics-killing-fish-before-they-reach-reproductive-age-study-finds
 Ocean acidification doubles by 2050, explodes by 2100.
https://scitechdaily.com/new-study-shows-breaching-carbon-threshold-could-lead-to-mass-extinction/
 30% of Marine Birds gone since 1995.
 70% of Marine Birds gone since 1950.
 28% of Land Animals gone since 1970.
 28% of All Marine Animals gone since 1970.
 If you are 15 years old, emissions went up 30% in your lifetime.
 If you are 30 years old, emissions went up 60% in your lifetime.
 After 30 years trying, solar and wind are < 3% of total world energy use.
https://lokisrevengeblog.files.wordpress.com/2019/07/energy-sources.jpg?w=696
 Solar panels produce 90% of power rating 15% of time
 Wind turbines produce 90% of power rating 25% of time.
 Claire Fyson said emissions must go down 50% in 10 yrs to avoid 1.5° C.
 The Insurance Journal said they must go down 50% in 10 yrs to avoid 3.0° C.
 Stefan Rahmstorf said emissions must go down 100% in 20 yrs to avoid 2.0° C.
 Hans Schellnhuber said 5 of 13 major hothouse tipping points start below 2.0° C.
 When these 5 points are triggered, they trigger the other 8.
 This results in runaway hothouse, which can't be stopped or reversed once started.
 But we are also headed for runaway mass extinction, which can't be stopped or reversed once started.
 10,000 years ago humans and livestock were 0.03% of land vertebrate biomass.
 Today humans and livestock are 98% of land vertebrate biomass.
 Human/livestock food production caused 80% of land vertebrate species extinctions.
 Petrochemical use grows 7X faster than human population.

 

How many statements like these become accepted as truth because they were re-posted by people without any thought or attempt at corroboration? Just for fun I decided to randomly pick one "fact" and made an effort to verify it.

 

If you are 15 years old, emissions went up 30% in your lifetime.

https://www.eia.gov/environment/emissions/carbon/

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1 hour ago, Jud said:

 

Don't know whether it makes a difference to the result, but worth pointing out your source speaks only to the US and only to the energy sector, not transportation, agriculture, etc 

That’s true. That’s also the problem with the list that Semente posted. Is it referring to the entire Earth or a specific area? All emissions, some emissions, coal only? And after all the parameters have been defined, are all those statements true or even some of them? It’s impossible to answer those questions but you can bet that list will show up elsewhere in support of someone’s position. And be just as meaningless there as it is here.