The Computer Audiophile Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 Greta work Tom. Thanks for going to this event alone. I would have loved to be there, but I just couldn't make it. I look forward to the Purifi Q&A! DuckToller 1 Founder of Audiophile Style | My Audio Systems Link to comment
Doak Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 Great stuff. Thanks! DuckToller 1 Doak's Audio System Link to comment
Popular Post barrows Posted May 20, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted May 20, 2019 As a user of Ncore (which has beaten a number of more expensive, very popular, traditional class A/B amplifiers in my system) I am very excited to hear Mr. Putzeys suggest that the Purifi is a significant step up from, Ncore. I am also very happy to hear that Purifi will make modules available for DIY. Looking forward here to building a Purifi based amplifier ASAP! Matias, zerung, DuckToller and 1 other 3 1 SO/ROON/HQPe: DSD 512-Sonore opticalModuleDeluxe-Signature Rendu optical with Well Tempered Clock--DIY DSC-2 DAC with SC Pure Clock--DIY Purifi Amplifier-Focus Audio FS888 speakers-JL E 112 sub-Nordost Tyr USB, DIY EventHorizon AC cables, Iconoclast XLR & speaker cables, Synergistic Purple Fuses, Spacetime system clarifiers. ISOAcoustics Oreas footers. SONORE computer audio | opticalRendu | ultraRendu | microRendu | Signature Rendu SE | Accessories | Software | Link to comment
Flashman Posted May 20, 2019 Share Posted May 20, 2019 Devialet Expert Pro products have extremely low THD and about the same signal-to-noise ratio. As to the other technical benefits of Purifi compared with Devialet, I'm not sure. My point is this: are we simply talking about technical performance or SQ? It's proven that some companies are really good at improving the technical performance envelope. The real key for me is whether they are also improving SQ. Thoughts? asdf1000 1 Link to comment
monteverdi Posted May 20, 2019 Share Posted May 20, 2019 Devialet has a topology which makes the filtering after the the class D stage unnecessary. Link to comment
HQ-Sound Posted May 24, 2019 Share Posted May 24, 2019 we have a fascinating quote from Bruno Putzeys, stating: “Customers will find out that ultra high end amplifier performance doesn’t need to cost an "effing" 40 grand. That sort of number is completely unjustifiable for even the best imaginable amplifier, it’s got at least one digit too many.” This is some what confusing to read considering the price level of Mr. Putzeys's brand Mola Mola. Link to comment
The Computer Audiophile Posted May 24, 2019 Share Posted May 24, 2019 18 minutes ago, HQ-Sound said: we have a fascinating quote from Bruno Putzeys, stating: “Customers will find out that ultra high end amplifier performance doesn’t need to cost an "effing" 40 grand. That sort of number is completely unjustifiable for even the best imaginable amplifier, it’s got at least one digit too many.” This is some what confusing to read considering the price level of Mr. Putzeys's brand Mola Mola. Sounds logical to me. The Mola Mola mono amps are less than half 40,000 Founder of Audiophile Style | My Audio Systems Link to comment
HQ-Sound Posted May 24, 2019 Share Posted May 24, 2019 3 minutes ago, The Computer Audiophile said: Sounds logical to me. The Mola Mola mono amps are less than half 40,000 Mr. Putzeys's statement was reading "it’s got at least one digit too many.” which should mean < 4,000 Link to comment
DuckToller Posted May 25, 2019 Author Share Posted May 25, 2019 10 hours ago, HQ-Sound said: Mr. Putzeys's statement was reading "it’s got at least one digit too many.” which should mean < 4,000 IIRC, Mola-Mola hasn't been involved in the price discussion. You have a certain bandwith between Mola-Mola and DIY NCore units if you want to make a point in one direction or the other. I've related the price discussion to the NAD m22, because NAD was the first manufacturer to announce the future use of the Purifi unit. En plus, you may expect a price between 3 and 4 k for a successor, which in turn put some more meat to quote. IMHO, the most important words in that quote are "at least", which leaves some fantasy towards DIY and box manufacturers. Best, Tom Link to comment
Popular Post firedog Posted May 25, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted May 25, 2019 On 5/20/2019 at 3:04 PM, Flashman said: Devialet Expert Pro products have extremely low THD and about the same signal-to-noise ratio. As to the other technical benefits of Purifi compared with Devialet, I'm not sure. My point is this: are we simply talking about technical performance or SQ? It's proven that some companies are really good at improving the technical performance envelope. The real key for me is whether they are also improving SQ. Thoughts? My thought is that the principals of this company don't have a history of putting out products that don't perform. If Bruno says these are better than NCore, they probably are. The question then becomes one of price vs. performance. Ncores are available for DIY and also have numerous brands marketing them in amps at all levels of the boards in the line and levels of cosmetics fit/finish. You can get some fantastic affordable NCore amps that are very good values in the audiophile world. But it took a two or three years for this to happen for those that don't want to DIY. We will see what happens with these. DuckToller and Nordkapp 1 1 Main listening (small home office): Main setup: Surge protector +>Isol-8 Mini sub Axis Power Strip/Isolation>QuietPC Low Noise Server>Roon (Audiolense DRC)>Stack Audio Link II>Kii Control>Kii Three (on their own electric circuit) >GIK Room Treatments. Secondary Path: Server with Audiolense RC>RPi4 or analog>Cayin iDAC6 MKII (tube mode) (XLR)>Kii Three . Bedroom: SBTouch to Cambridge Soundworks Desktop Setup. Living Room/Kitchen: Ropieee (RPi3b+ with touchscreen) + Schiit Modi3E to a pair of Morel Hogtalare. All absolute statements about audio are false Link to comment
Flashman Posted June 13, 2019 Share Posted June 13, 2019 On 5/25/2019 at 9:59 AM, firedog said: My thought is that the principals of this company don't have a history of putting out products that don't perform. If Bruno says these are better than NCore, they probably are. The question then becomes one of price vs. performance. Ncores are available for DIY and also have numerous brands marketing them in amps at all levels of the boards in the line and levels of cosmetics fit/finish. You can get some fantastic affordable NCore amps that are very good values in the audiophile world. But it took a two or three years for this to happen for those that don't want to DIY. We will see what happens with these. Firedog, good points. Thanks for sharing. Link to comment
Ralf11 Posted June 13, 2019 Share Posted June 13, 2019 On 5/24/2019 at 1:27 PM, HQ-Sound said: Mr. Putzeys's statement was reading "it’s got at least one digit too many.” which should mean < 4,000 which is also near the price of the NAD they mentioned re SQ & increments of SQ per unit cost increment - it would be very interesting to do a blind comparison with the Benchmark amp Link to comment
fas42 Posted October 24, 2019 Share Posted October 24, 2019 Just came across a hands on impression of a unit using this module - https://6moons.com/audioreview_articles/purifi/. Unfortunately, I haven't the ability to translate the mellifluous prose 😉 - anyone care to digest this, and tell me whether it's thumbs up, or down? Link to comment
Mike48 Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 It seems to me that the reviewer liked the PuriFi amp but thought it was bettered on some material by far more costly (4x) electronics. But on most material, the difference could be considered a matter of preference. fas42 1 Link to comment
Kal Rubinson Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 6 hours ago, Mike48 said: But on most material, the difference could be considered a matter of preference. On what material would the difference not be a matter of preference? Kal Rubinson Senior Contributing Editor, Stereophile Link to comment
Mike48 Posted January 27, 2021 Share Posted January 27, 2021 On 1/22/2021 at 6:54 AM, Kal Rubinson said: On what material would the difference not be a matter of preference? I agree with that perspective (i.e., preference on all material). Was trying to paraphrase the reviewer's conclusions, not express my own. Seems I botched it up. Link to comment
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