lucretius Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 Sure, I have one laying around somewhere. At onetime (long ago) I needed it to measure something -- can't remember what. It's been so long that I forget how to use it -- I would need to read the instructions again and also, probably, relearn what it is I'd be measuring and why. mQa is dead! Link to comment
mansr Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 13 minutes ago, yamamoto2002 said: My multimeters. Leftmost one is my favorite. LCR meter, nice. Not many people have those. yamamoto2002 1 Link to comment
lucretius Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 4 hours ago, R1200CL said: Can we have a “do you have a oscilloscope” poll also ? 😂 We could add logic probe, lab power supply, maybe even breadboards and chips, etc. ☺️ mQa is dead! Link to comment
Popular Post mansr Posted May 17, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted May 17, 2019 2 minutes ago, lucretius said: We could add logic probe, lab power supply, maybe even breadboards and chips, etc. ☺️ Don't forget the all-important tape measure for checking soundstage size. lucretius, Confused, sphinxsix and 1 other 4 Link to comment
opus101 Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 I have a collection of el-cheapo DMMs - my most recent impulse buy : Link to comment
yamamoto2002 Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 21 minutes ago, mansr said: LCR meter, nice. Not many people have those. It is nice to have to build amplifiers, component sorting to allay anxiety 😁 Sunday programmer since 1985 Developer of PlayPcmWin Link to comment
Popular Post bluesman Posted May 17, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted May 17, 2019 6 hours ago, ddetaey said: And one can see if the lights are on. ...even if nobody’s home 😛 fas42 and Confused 2 Link to comment
Dr Tone Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 I have one, I used it allot years ago when I was building vintage fender/marshall guitar amplifier clones. Now it's relegated to diagnosing issues around the farm. Roon Rock->Auralic Aria G2->Schiit Yggdrasil A2->McIntosh C47->McIntosh MC301 Monos->Wilson Audio Sabrinas Link to comment
StephenJK Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 I'm (originally) an Industrial Electrician by trade and went from an analog meter to the first Fluke digital way back in 1978 or so, and have been using one ever since. I'm using a Fluke 189 right now and also have an older Fluke ScopeMeter that still works well. These days I'm more involved in machine design and R&D, but always have a meter handy. It can be a dangerous thing - one of the things we teach people starting with a multimeter is that, at least for signal level work there's no point taking a reading if you don't know what it should be. For most electrical work, people are looking for voltage/no voltage and that's a lot more straightforward. Two things to watch for - Auto Ranging and AC/DC selection. With auto ranging, a handy function, I was fooled checking SCR gating on a 480 VAC circuit where I had a reading of 420 or so, which didn't make sense. In fact, the reading was millivolts and just picking up stray voltage, a "ghost" as it were. Watch the units for ranging or set it manually. With AC or DC selection you can easily get killed. The example we use (in Canada) is what do you read when you connect your meter, set for DC, to a 600 VAC three phase circuit? You read zero volts, because there is no DC. But, oh boy, is there ever a voltage there. I've had so many people over the years watching me troubleshoot complex industrial machines say to me "Hey, can you take a few minutes and show me how to use one of those?" You have to be rude and say, "Get your journeyman's and come back in four years, then we can talk." Link to comment
psjug Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 An old radio shack meter - collecting dust and epoxy drops as you can see. Only reason I bought this was because I needed a cheap and easy way to log some data. But it has some nice functions. I've never used the hFE. My everyday multimeter is a B+K. lucretius 1 Link to comment
mansr Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 6 minutes ago, SJK said: With auto ranging, a handy function, I was fooled checking SCR gating on a 480 VAC circuit where I had a reading of 420 or so, which didn't make sense. In fact, the reading was millivolts and just picking up stray voltage, a "ghost" as it were. Watch the units for ranging or set it manually. At least it wasn't the other way around. That could have been dangerous. 6 minutes ago, SJK said: With AC or DC selection you can easily get killed. The example we use (in Canada) is what do you read when you connect your meter, set for DC, to a 600 VAC three phase circuit? You read zero volts, because there is no DC. But, oh boy, is there ever a voltage there. My Fluke has a handy mode that displays DC and AC components simultaneously. Link to comment
Paul R Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 1 hour ago, lucretius said: We could add logic probe, lab power supply, maybe even breadboards and chips, etc. ☺️ How about one for USB analyzers? I upgraded my really old Beagle for a Beagle 12 a few months ago... 💸 lucretius 1 Anyone who considers protocol unimportant has never dealt with a cat DAC. Robert A. Heinlein Link to comment
Paul R Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 8 minutes ago, psjug said: An old radio shack meter - collecting dust and epoxy drops as you can see. Only reason I bought this was because I needed a cheap and easy way to log some data. But it has some nice functions. I've never used the hFE. My everyday multimeter is a B+K. I really miss Radio,Shack. Many a happy hour spent in those stores. Audio, electronics, computers... just everything. I do not think there are any stores like that any more. Anyone who considers protocol unimportant has never dealt with a cat DAC. Robert A. Heinlein Link to comment
psjug Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 7 minutes ago, Paul R said: I really miss Radio,Shack. Many a happy hour spent in those stores. Audio, electronics, computers... just everything. I do not think there are any stores like that any more. I miss the unique personalities of the employees in those stores. esldude 1 Link to comment
Popular Post sphinxsix Posted May 17, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted May 17, 2019 SS multimeters suck! 4est and esldude 1 1 Link to comment
R1200CL Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 1 hour ago, Paul R said: How about one for USB analyzers? You can get those as free SW for your laptop 😀 Link to comment
Paul R Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 3 hours ago, Jeff_N said: Use it to adjust bias on my Yaqin MC-13S. Off topic, but how do you like the Yaqin? I have been looking at a lot of Chi-Fi lately, and to me some of the tube stuff looks really impressive. 😉 Anyone who considers protocol unimportant has never dealt with a cat DAC. Robert A. Heinlein Link to comment
Paul R Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 3 minutes ago, R1200CL said: You can get those as free SW for your laptop 😀 Yep, but high latency and I like hardware. 🧐 Anyone who considers protocol unimportant has never dealt with a cat DAC. Robert A. Heinlein Link to comment
pkane2001 Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 Bought this one earlier this year: -Paul DeltaWave, DISTORT, Earful, PKHarmonic, new: Multitone Analyzer Link to comment
esldude Posted May 17, 2019 Author Share Posted May 17, 2019 5 hours ago, mansr said: Don't forget the all-important tape measure for checking soundstage size. I doubt most members here have a tape measure. And how likely is it calibrated for measuring the effects of data compression on height? Even if members might be able to use one. And always keep in mind: Cognitive biases, like seeing optical illusions are a sign of a normally functioning brain. We all have them, it’s nothing to be ashamed about, but it is something that affects our objective evaluation of reality. Link to comment
Ralf11 Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 you didn't specify how many digits!! I only have one 5.5 but half a dozen low rent ones Link to comment
StephenJK Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 4 hours ago, sphinxsix said: SS multimeters suck! Except when it's set for resistance and you connect across a power circuit. The digital meter will go beep beep beep to give you a warning. The analog meter will blow up in your hands. I speak from experience. Link to comment
Sonicularity Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 8 hours ago, STC said: Even a slightest tilt of your head will change the frequency response where what supposedly to sound at exact level may sound louder or softer. Level match is is only useful if you do the blind test with headphones. With loudspeakers, it can change with every different position or addition of furniture in your room. It is hard to be consistent in a typical room. Yes, only used with headphones, which I rarely use anymore. I just want to find a base when I try a new amp, as it always sounds like one is different if I just plug in headphones and turn the volume up. The "OMG that sounds amazing!" moment becomes "seems the same to me" when I match the volume. The look, feel, reputation, price, and probably dozens of other things I am not so obviously aware of could impact my subjective impression. Volume matching is just a small step in helping to remove some blatant biases. esldude 1 Link to comment
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