Bob Stuart launches blog to explain MQA

[rn701]

http://bobtalks.co.uk/blog/insight-series/insight-looking-deeper-into-mqa/

 

"Our perspective on high-resolution is no longer a matter for opinion or debate."

 

(Sorry if already posted. Merge or delete or whatever.)

[daverich4]

“High resolution is an experience, not a specification …”

 

Wow, just f’king wow.  If you want to ruin your day, read Bob’s Intro To High Resolution. 

[Ishmael Slapowitz]

4 minutes ago, daverich4 said:

“High resolution is an experience, not a specification …”

 

Wow, just f’king wow.  If you want to ruin your day, read Bob’s Intro To High Resolution. 

Perhaps the biggest pile of steaming horseshit imaginable outside of Fatso's Meuller Report Summary. 

 

Just mind boggling bullshit. 

[tmtomh]

Let me guess: no comments function on this blog?

[Paul R]

Wow - sounds like he is directly trying to address some of the points in Chris's RMAF presentation. I don't think it can be done, but then, I don't think he is aiming for a technical audience anyway. 

[One and a half]

Origami folding really works, (on paper with the hype to boot):

 

Compared to regular PCM, MQA delivers at least 15 times more resolution, with a lower environmental impact (saving up to 80% on storage, cloud and data cost), yet gives the clearest sound direct from the studio, and is effortless for the listener to enjoy.

 

Wow, 15 times, and green energy too, apart from the manufactured hardware that needs to be green compatible. Trust in Bob. This is the line spun to the labels and the likes of Tidal for sure. Horse and dogshit, the lot.

[One and a half]

22 minutes ago, tmtomh said:

Let me guess: no comments function on this blog?

Correct, subscribe and share are a plenty.

[Ishmael Slapowitz]

5 minutes ago, One and a half said:

Origami folding really works, (on paper with the hype to boot):

 

Compared to regular PCM, MQA delivers at least 15 times more resolution, with a lower environmental impact (saving up to 80% on storage, cloud and data cost), yet gives the clearest sound direct from the studio, and is effortless for the listener to enjoy.

 

Wow, 15 times, and green energy too, apart from the manufactured hardware that needs to be green compatible. Trust in Bob. This is the line spun to the labels and the likes of Tidal for sure. Horse and dogshit, the lot.

So let us counting the marketing lies:

 

1-MQA delivers "at least" 15x more resolution

 

2-"a lower environmental impact"

 

3-"gives the clearest sound direct from the studio"

 

Stunning. 

[firedog]

So basically, Bob is saying that if you define everything in audio the way MQA does, the superiority of MQA isn’t debatable. There are lies there, as usual: he says it isn’t “lossy” (doesn’t even use the “perceptually lossless” fudge); and his talk about “blur” -which of course he never defines. And he says that not using MQA is “unethical” b/c it is an inefficient method of storage....

[lucretius]

 

39 minutes ago, One and a half said:

Origami folding really works, (on paper with the hype to boot):

 

Compared to regular PCM, MQA delivers at least 15 times more resolution, with a lower environmental impact (saving up to 80% on storage, cloud and data cost), yet gives the clearest sound direct from the studio, and is effortless for the listener to enjoy.

 

Wow, 15 times, and green energy too, apart from the manufactured hardware that needs to be green compatible. Trust in Bob. This is the line spun to the labels and the likes of Tidal for sure. Horse and dogshit, the lot.

 

But Bob is taking the MQA file to be 24 bits /192 Hz (rather than the true 24 bits /48 Hz or 24 bits /44.1 Hz).  That works out to about a 1411. 20 kbps bit rate (compressed).  Divide by 15 and we get a 94.08 kbps bit rate.  That's almost equivalent to a 96 kbps MP3.

 

Two problems:

1. The MQA file is only 24 bits / 48 Hz  or 24bits / 44.1 Hz and NOT 24 bits /192 Hz.

2. Most folks streaming music MP3's are using higher bit rates, e.g. 256 kbps  or 320 kbps.

[One and a half]

Rapid acceptance of MQA, by whom?

 

Example for Zdigital:

 

 

HD Tracks

 

 

Hiresaudio, gee a hit, 854 results, out of how many thousand titles at the site?

 

 

Onkyo Music (USA site) -FIVE releases.

 

 

Rapid Acceptance, the searches are better than none suppose.  

[crenca]

1 hour ago, Ishmael Slapowitz said:

So let us counting the marketing lies:

 

1-MQA delivers "at least" 15x more resolution

 

2-"a lower environmental impact"

 

3-"gives the clearest sound direct from the studio"

 

Stunning. 

 

I coming up to that age when I my doctor will order a colon exam.  Surely Bob address this also...  

[crenca]

Seriously, Bob Stuart is the L Ron Hubbard of the (digital) audio world.  MQA is like those old commercials where Dianetics is the solution to everything.  P. 123, how to improve your sex life.  P 345, how fix your bicycle.  P. 213, how to attain eternal bliss...

[Ishmael Slapowitz]

17 minutes ago, crenca said:

Seriously, Bob Stuart is the L Ron Hubbard of the (digital) audio world.  MQA is like those old commercials where Dianetics is the solution to everything.  P. 123, how to improve your sex life.  P 345, how fix your bicycle.  P. 213, how to attain eternal bliss...

Clearly, Stuart and his minions are the most intellectually dishonest bunch of thugs the audio world has seen. MQA dying a death? Move the goal posts, write a blog post that provides a fantastical distortion or reality. 

 

"There were 3 million people at my inauguration."

 

"No there weren't"

 

"Yes there were. "Cause I said so, fuck you". 

 

LOL

 

 

[Archimago]

Well, considering that Mr. Stuart hasn't posted anything on his "Insights" since September 2018, these are rather feeble blog entries (with no comments allowed as noted above).

 

Ignoring the "15x resolution" and the "clearest sound" nonsense defined by whatever they're using as the "high resolution experience", clearly he's now trying the "Go Green" angle...  This must be in response to the fact that we don't need MQA's level of "compression" for streaming anymore.

 

My, how socially conscious he has become! By extension, and without fanfare, MP3/AAC due to the massive space savings over uncompressed lossless and even FLAC on hard drives and streaming over the decades must have single-handedly at least reduce average global temperatures by 0.000001°C and we didn't know it!!!

 

But before I give Stuart a "pass" and embrace the fact that the planet is saved, let's see the analysis of the carbon footprint for putting aside perfectly good "legacy" hi-res DACs in order to buy an MQA DAC that fully decodes to that MQA "experience". 😁

 

But seriously... This is laughable and desperate. Just sad and painful at this point. What else are they going to pull out from the magician's hat?

 

"MQA sounds so good, nobody in your state is going to ask for cannabis legalization!"

 

"MQA sounds so good, the kids won't bother with opioids! Fentanyl's got nothing on the high from listening to MQA!!!"

[Archimago]

Oh yeah! I almost forgot one more thing...

 

Since MQA is especially environmentally friendly now, I would implore Mr. Stuart to please please please never ever ever allow his amazing technology to enhance vinyl playback!!!

 

The hordes of vinyl lovers will saturate all the pressing plants to use up even more of the non-renewable fossil fuels to make that terrible non-biodegradable plastic to fill up our landfills with Crosley-damaged records, add to the islands of floating plastic in our seas, and line the guts of our poor marine mammals off the coasts!!!

 

Mr. Stuart must simply do the right thing and recognize that he has even more ethical responsibilities now!

 

[ipeverywhere]

If someone really cared about the environment they would just work to have the studios release the PCM or DSD. They would _not_ work to push a lossy format that required the world to continue tracking and keeping multiple formats of the same content because something better is out there. 

 

And, no, I didn't read the blog. Already done with MQA. Really actually tired of hearing about it and it dominating a ton of forums. We have better things to discuss (and listen to).     Maybe Mr. Stuart can take his technology to the audiobook world. That sound quality of audiobooks is lacking and we really could benefit from Audible releasing "Master Quality Audiobooks". Not to mention it would give Amazon a reason to release new Kindles. 

[Paul R]

29 minutes ago, Archimago said:

Oh yeah! I almost forgot one more thing...

 

Since MQA is especially environmentally friendly now, I would implore Mr. Stuart to please please please never ever ever allow his amazing technology to enhance vinyl playback!!!

 

The hordes of vinyl lovers will saturate all the pressing plants to use up even more of the non-renewable fossil fuels to make that terrible non-biodegradable plastic to fill up our landfills with Crosley-damaged records, add to the islands of floating plastic in our seas, and line the guts of our poor marine mammals off the coasts!!!

 

Mr. Stuart must simply do the right thing and recognize that he has even more ethical responsibilities now!

 

 

Whooo - I don't think I ever heard of fission starting with a sub-critical mass, but you may have just invented cold fusion! Now wouldn't that be an accomplishment for MQA?  Aggravate audiophiles so much they start generating nuclear power output! 

 

 

[Archimago]

3 hours ago, Paul R said:

 

Whooo - I don't think I ever heard of fission starting with a sub-critical mass, but you may have just invented cold fusion! Now wouldn't that be an accomplishment for MQA?  Aggravate audiophiles so much they start generating nuclear power output! 

 

 

Hey Paul,

 

Naw man. You're right in some ways, but probably over thinking this! This ain't nuclear science... It's fiction.

 

That's what MQA has always been and why it's so easy to counter fiction and produce even more fiction. In this account of the universe, MQA resolution can be quantified as easily as throwing out the claim of "15x", magic happens with their mystical "still lossless" compression, and apparently now there's an element of environmental stewardship. It's like how Ironman's tech coexists with Scarlet Witch's sorcery and the fate of the universe lies with 6 stones. All of it great stories!

 

[Paul R]

25 minutes ago, Archimago said:

 

Hey Paul,

 

Naw man. You're right in some ways, but probably over thinking this! This ain't nuclear science... It's fiction.

 

That's what MQA has always been and why it's so easy to counter fiction and produce even more fiction. In this account of the universe, MQA resolution can be quantified as easily as throwing out the claim of "15x", magic happens with their mystical "still lossless" compression, and apparently now there's an element of environmental stewardship. It's like how Ironman's tech coexists with Scarlet Witch's sorcery and the fate of the universe lies with 6 stones. All of it great stories!

 

 

<SNAP> What is MQA? Never heard of it...  

 

-Paul 

 

[rickca]

The blog reads like 'ignore the man behind the curtain' from the Wizard of Oz.  MQA is a listening experience.  Don't muck up the magic with scientific explanations.

 

We wish to welcome you to Munchkinland!

 

[Ralf11]

19 hours ago, crenca said:

Seriously, Bob Stuart is the L Ron Hubbard of the (digital) audio world.  MQA is like those old commercials where Dianetics is the solution to everything.  P. 123, how to improve your sex life.  P 345, how fix your bicycle.  P. 213, how to attain eternal bliss...

 

 

MQA is getting "rapid acceptance" on Scientology cruise ships with measles outbreaks

[Miska]

20 hours ago, Ishmael Slapowitz said:

So let us counting the marketing lies:

 

1-MQA delivers "at least" 15x more resolution

 

2-"a lower environmental impact"

 

3-"gives the clearest sound direct from the studio"

 

Stunning. 

 

Where's the AI? It's not a cool thing if it doesn't include some form of Artificial Intelligence. (what in the past was boringly called statistics and correlation)

 

[Thuaveta]

4 minutes ago, Miska said:

 

Where's the AI? It's not a cool thing if it doesn't include some form of Artificial Intelligence. (what in the past was boringly called statistics and correlation) 

 

 

That's for episode two: "double blind testing, by bleeding-edge AI, has proven that MQA is audibly lossless".

[christopher3393]

 

 

 

23 hours ago, rn701 said:

http://bobtalks.co.uk/blog/insight-series/insight-looking-deeper-into-mqa/

 

"Our perspective on high-resolution is no longer a matter for opinion or debate."

 

The last time I read a statement like this, it was made by a pope.