Jud Posted September 15, 2019 Share Posted September 15, 2019 On 4/25/2019 at 10:12 PM, The Computer Audiophile said: This could be interesting. https://www.musicbusinessworldwide.com/amazon-is-readying-a-hi-def-music-streaming-service/ Note: "It’s understood that Amazon has not partnered with MQA for its own HD tier." Interesting is one word for it. If this is seriously going to adhere to standards (huge question), can you see the smaller competitors surviving? Perhaps in Europe, perhaps not. And perhaps it won’t be standards compliant, in which case we’re in real trouble. One never knows, do one? - Fats Waller The fairest thing we can experience is the mysterious. It is the fundamental emotion which stands at the cradle of true art and true science. - Einstein Computer, Audirvana -> optical Ethernet to Fitlet3 -> Fibbr Alpha Optical USB -> iFi NEO iDSD DAC -> Apollon Audio 1ET400A Mini (Purifi based) -> Vandersteen 3A Signature. Link to comment
Jud Posted September 16, 2019 Share Posted September 16, 2019 46 minutes ago, PAR said: Unfortunately as far as I can see you are wrong on this. In the USA the new Music Modernization Act provides a compulsory licence i.e. no refusal, no negotiation. That interpretation would seem to eliminate the need for services to sign agreements with labels, so I'm not sure it's correct. I think the compulsory licensing may set the compensation for reproduction in formats a label makes available, but not necessarily require availability in all formats. The Computer Audiophile 1 One never knows, do one? - Fats Waller The fairest thing we can experience is the mysterious. It is the fundamental emotion which stands at the cradle of true art and true science. - Einstein Computer, Audirvana -> optical Ethernet to Fitlet3 -> Fibbr Alpha Optical USB -> iFi NEO iDSD DAC -> Apollon Audio 1ET400A Mini (Purifi based) -> Vandersteen 3A Signature. Link to comment
Popular Post Jud Posted September 16, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted September 16, 2019 The economics: - There are a very few artists who could actually get rich from streaming. But unless you want to listen to the same hugely popular artists over and over, musicians making money from streaming is not a sustainable model. Streaming has cut deeply into digital and physical album sales. The latter in particular offered greater compensation for artists. The story for most artists can be found here - artists would need hundreds of thousands of streams per month on the more popular services just to make minimum wage, and minimum wage doesn't pay for studio time or band members: https://www.digitalmusicnews.com/2018/12/25/streaming-music-services-pay-2019/ - The artists aren't generally making money, and according to the link above, the vast majority of streaming services are big money losers. So who's making money? The labels (or rather the conglomerates that own them), of course. - Given this situation and nearly non-existent US anti-trust enforcement, I'm a little surprised Amazon, Apple and Google haven't just bought the music industry. But perhaps that would make things more complicated for them in Europe and/or the enormous potential Chinese market. 4est and Teresa 1 1 One never knows, do one? - Fats Waller The fairest thing we can experience is the mysterious. It is the fundamental emotion which stands at the cradle of true art and true science. - Einstein Computer, Audirvana -> optical Ethernet to Fitlet3 -> Fibbr Alpha Optical USB -> iFi NEO iDSD DAC -> Apollon Audio 1ET400A Mini (Purifi based) -> Vandersteen 3A Signature. Link to comment
Jud Posted September 16, 2019 Share Posted September 16, 2019 22 minutes ago, The Computer Audiophile said: Musicians need to stop signing away their rights to make more money. It’s the same as it ever was, but now with streaming. Think about relative economic power and access to the market. They sign or no one hears them. Someone as hugely popular and talented as Prince saw his sales go down the tubes when he left his label, so how well will an anonymous newcomer do? One never knows, do one? - Fats Waller The fairest thing we can experience is the mysterious. It is the fundamental emotion which stands at the cradle of true art and true science. - Einstein Computer, Audirvana -> optical Ethernet to Fitlet3 -> Fibbr Alpha Optical USB -> iFi NEO iDSD DAC -> Apollon Audio 1ET400A Mini (Purifi based) -> Vandersteen 3A Signature. Link to comment
Jud Posted September 16, 2019 Share Posted September 16, 2019 3 hours ago, The Computer Audiophile said: I’m with you 100%. But, the choice is there. Macklemore & Ryan Lewis did it with great success. Interesting: "Macklemore, in a slightly unusual recording contract, pays a nominal percentage of sales to use Warner Bros. Records's radio promotion department to push his singles." One never knows, do one? - Fats Waller The fairest thing we can experience is the mysterious. It is the fundamental emotion which stands at the cradle of true art and true science. - Einstein Computer, Audirvana -> optical Ethernet to Fitlet3 -> Fibbr Alpha Optical USB -> iFi NEO iDSD DAC -> Apollon Audio 1ET400A Mini (Purifi based) -> Vandersteen 3A Signature. Link to comment
Jud Posted September 17, 2019 Share Posted September 17, 2019 5 hours ago, PAR said: This ranges from artists no longer requiring professional studios by being able to create their recordings in a converted spare bedroom to undertaking their own publicity /marketing routes via the interweb. Would you give some examples of musicians making good livings in this way? One never knows, do one? - Fats Waller The fairest thing we can experience is the mysterious. It is the fundamental emotion which stands at the cradle of true art and true science. - Einstein Computer, Audirvana -> optical Ethernet to Fitlet3 -> Fibbr Alpha Optical USB -> iFi NEO iDSD DAC -> Apollon Audio 1ET400A Mini (Purifi based) -> Vandersteen 3A Signature. Link to comment
Jud Posted September 20, 2019 Share Posted September 20, 2019 5 hours ago, wgscott said: Well, they do manage to put an awful lot of crap in their catalogue, like Pear Jam for Babies. You know @The Computer Audiophile probably raised his daughter on this album, right? 😉 One never knows, do one? - Fats Waller The fairest thing we can experience is the mysterious. It is the fundamental emotion which stands at the cradle of true art and true science. - Einstein Computer, Audirvana -> optical Ethernet to Fitlet3 -> Fibbr Alpha Optical USB -> iFi NEO iDSD DAC -> Apollon Audio 1ET400A Mini (Purifi based) -> Vandersteen 3A Signature. Link to comment
Popular Post Jud Posted September 20, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted September 20, 2019 On 9/18/2019 at 11:34 AM, mansr said: A band member I discussed this with a while ago said they made most of their money from commercial licensing. The revenue breakdown probably varies a lot depending on type of music, popularity level, and whatnot. You posted (I think in the MQA thread) that one always sees artists selling CDs at concerts. No accident. Concerts especially, and CDs, are far more remunerative than streams, except for a tiny handful of the most popular artists. Teresa and PAP 2 One never knows, do one? - Fats Waller The fairest thing we can experience is the mysterious. It is the fundamental emotion which stands at the cradle of true art and true science. - Einstein Computer, Audirvana -> optical Ethernet to Fitlet3 -> Fibbr Alpha Optical USB -> iFi NEO iDSD DAC -> Apollon Audio 1ET400A Mini (Purifi based) -> Vandersteen 3A Signature. Link to comment
Jud Posted September 20, 2019 Share Posted September 20, 2019 On 9/18/2019 at 9:55 AM, charlesphoto said: I still have plenty of friends who are happy with their old Yamaha or Marantz receivers and buying records by the oodles and playing them on their cheap turntables. A lot of them being musicians themselves. They are the ones who are truly keeping it alive. Though the numbers of LPs being sold are on a steep upward trend, the proportion of the business they make up is tiny. Something like 77,000 LPs sold in 2018, I believe? Most musicians make their money these days by playing live, so go see people. One never knows, do one? - Fats Waller The fairest thing we can experience is the mysterious. It is the fundamental emotion which stands at the cradle of true art and true science. - Einstein Computer, Audirvana -> optical Ethernet to Fitlet3 -> Fibbr Alpha Optical USB -> iFi NEO iDSD DAC -> Apollon Audio 1ET400A Mini (Purifi based) -> Vandersteen 3A Signature. Link to comment
Jud Posted September 20, 2019 Share Posted September 20, 2019 4 hours ago, rn701 said: 16.8 million according to Billboard, about 12%. Wow, don't know how I got so far off. Thanks for the correction. rn701 1 One never knows, do one? - Fats Waller The fairest thing we can experience is the mysterious. It is the fundamental emotion which stands at the cradle of true art and true science. - Einstein Computer, Audirvana -> optical Ethernet to Fitlet3 -> Fibbr Alpha Optical USB -> iFi NEO iDSD DAC -> Apollon Audio 1ET400A Mini (Purifi based) -> Vandersteen 3A Signature. Link to comment
Jud Posted October 7, 2019 Share Posted October 7, 2019 On 9/21/2019 at 1:17 PM, Ralf11 said: forcing serfs to "run with the land" Pardon the OT: Though serfs were tied to the land and their status was inherited, the only time I've seen the phrase "run with the land" used was in regard to covenants. Do you have an example referring to serfs? One never knows, do one? - Fats Waller The fairest thing we can experience is the mysterious. It is the fundamental emotion which stands at the cradle of true art and true science. - Einstein Computer, Audirvana -> optical Ethernet to Fitlet3 -> Fibbr Alpha Optical USB -> iFi NEO iDSD DAC -> Apollon Audio 1ET400A Mini (Purifi based) -> Vandersteen 3A Signature. Link to comment
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