HDMI to SPDIF? Can you recommend an audio extractor?

[miguelito]

On 5/14/2019 at 2:59 PM, miguelito said:

I just got this device, and it actually works! When I play an SACD, I get DSD via DoP into my Rossini! And the appropriate PCM hi res with other sources like DVD-Audio and BluRay.

 

Awesome.

I've done some listening tests and I am extremely impressed with this device. Comparing to the sound of ripped SACDs and CDs, I cannot tell them apart. More careful listening would be required. But so far the performance is pristine and operationally flawless. 

[firedog]

On 5/14/2019 at 9:59 PM, miguelito said:

I just got this device, and it actually works! When I play an SACD, I get DSD via DoP into my Rossini! And the appropriate PCM hi res with other sources like DVD-Audio and BluRay.

 

Awesome.

Sorry for my ignorance, but I thought SACD players by definition could not out put the unaltered DSD - as part of the license - and not the actual DSD stream.

[mansr]

5 hours ago, firedog said:

Sorry for my ignorance, but I thought SACD players by definition could not out put the unaltered DSD - as part of the license - and not the actual DSD stream.

It's probably permitted if "protected" by HDCP.

[miguelito]

1 hour ago, mansr said:

It's probably permitted if "protected" by HDCP.

Exactly. Disc players that play SACDs do not play any sound out of the coax out when playing SACDs. However, they transcode to 24/88 PCM and send that over HDMI. In principle there’s no issue in sending that same transcoded 24/88 PCM to the coax output except for license issues of course. Most of these players also allow you to send untouched DSD over HDMI since some receivers are able to convert DSD directly to analog. Examples are all Oppo’s (I have both a DV-980 and a BDP-93), Sony’s latest DVD players, etc.

 

What this device does is take the DSD out of the HDMI, encapsulate it in a PCM stream via DoP, and send it over coax to your DAC. If your DAC’s coax input can handle DoP, it will decode the DoP PCM stream into the original DSD stream. My Rossini does just that.

[miguelito]

BTW, forgot to mention: if your DAC does not handle DoP over it’s coax input just set your disc player to send PCM when playing SACD and you will get 24/88 PCM out of this device. 

[seeteeyou]

So glad that's working great for you.

 

BTW, I read quite a bit about this affordable Belkin HDMI (specifically supporting BOTH 4K and 8K) cable and that seemed to work great for concerts / movies

 

https://www.hiendy.com/hififorum/forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=124919

https://www.hiendy.com/hififorum/forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=125133

 

The model of the latest 2018 version is AV10176 and we could find that on Amazon etc.

 

https://www.belkin.com/us/p/P-AV10176/

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Belkin-Ultra-High-Speed-Cable/dp/B07GVQKJ9W

https://www.amazon.co.jp/【Amazon-co-jp-限定】belkin-Ultra-HDMI2-1-AV10176BT1M-BLK/dp/B07MTSPT74

 

Make sure that we're actually getting the one on the left with better shielding

 

https://detail.tmall.com/item.htm?id=576816902587

 

EAN codes:

 

0745883767465 (1M version)

 

0745883767472 (2M version)

[yuppi]

You can use a HDMI to Coaxial Dop converter which is under USD500.

This converter can converter any Blu-Ray player HDMI DSD output to Coaxial Dop.