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SACD-ISO and playback possibilities with Foobar2000 (+ plugins)

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Hi there,

I'm new in the software: Foobar2000 use and I was tuned in on it because I can now rip SACD from my 'new' Sony Bluray BDP-S790 onto a harddisk (with: ISO2DSD). 
I save as RAW ISO and can playback directly from PC into my CD player Simaudio Moon 260D (with DAC) connecting with a USB-cable (A-male + B-male - commonly known as a USB-printer cable). 
I have installed the plugin (foo_input_sacd-1.1.1a) on Foobar2000 that enables SACD playback of cause, and tracks are listed nicely when the ISO is opened in Foobar. but I have some questions on playback possibilities:

The DAC in the CD player (USB-inlet) can handle up to 24 bit/192.000 according to Simaudio. The DAC (PCM1795) vendor Burr Brown states: 32 bit and system clock: 128, 192, 256, 384, 512, 768. 

In Preferences in Foobar under Playback/Output: I have set for 32 bit (24 bit works too).
In Tools/SACD I have under SACD/PCM Samplerate chosen 41.000. It all sounds detailed and georgous !! - If I chose 88.200 there is a weak white background noise.

If I chose higher samplerate: 176400 or 352800 the music is there but so is a very obvious constant white backgrpound noise.

It seems to me that the steps in the software PCM samplerates in the plugin is a bit odd: 41.000, 88.200, 176.400, 352.800 - why is there not a 192.000 ?

 

I suppose it all comes down to the plugin: (foo_input_sacd-1.1.1a).

Are there another plugin which is better for my setup ? Where I can get higher sample-rates without white noise !!

...and tell me if I am all wrong in my understanding of the problem !!

Or is there another PC software which will be better all together ?

 

;o)  nUUK25
 

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6 hours ago, nUUK25 said:

In Preferences in Foobar under Playback/Output: I have set for 32 bit (24 bit works too).
In Tools/SACD I have under SACD/PCM Samplerate chosen 41.000. It all sounds detailed and georgous !! - If I chose 88.200 there is a weak white background noise.

If I chose higher samplerate: 176400 or 352800 the music is there but so is a very obvious constant white backgrpound noise.

It seems to me that the steps in the software PCM samplerates in the plugin is a bit odd: 41.000, 88.200, 176.400, 352.800 - why is there not a 192.000 ?

 

I suppose it all comes down to the plugin: (foo_input_sacd-1.1.1a).

Are there another plugin which is better for my setup ? Where I can get higher sample-rates without white noise !!

...and tell me if I am all wrong in my understanding of the problem !!

Or is there another PC software which will be better all together ?

 

;o)  nUUK25
 

 

Here are the settings that work for me:

 

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YMMV.  Also, the sample rates shown are multiples of 44.1 kHZ.  Apparently, the 48 kHz family is not included.

 

As for other software, JRiver Media Center and Audirvana Plus for Windows will do want you want. And, if you decide to break up the iso files into dsf files, there are more player options.

 

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DSD 

10 hours ago, nUUK25 said:

In Preferences in Foobar under Playback/Output: I have set for 32 bit (24 bit works too).
In Tools/SACD I have under SACD/PCM Samplerate chosen 41.000. It all sounds detailed and georgous !! - If I chose 88.200 there is a weak white background noise.

If I chose higher samplerate: 176400 or 352800 the music is there but so is a very obvious constant white backgrpound noise.

It seems to me that the steps in the software PCM samplerates in the plugin is a bit odd: 41.000, 88.200, 176.400, 352.800 - why is there not a 192.000 ?
 

 

The ideal DSD to PCM conversion uses sample rates which are a multiplier of 44kHz (44, 88, 176, ...). It's a mathematical thing. 

 

Maybe the white noise that you are hearing is a flaw of the DAC, or can be solved with different settings.

 

There is only one SACD plugin for Foobar, which exists in different versions. Here's a page that explains the plugin settings:

 

https://diyaudioheaven.wordpress.com/digital/pc-software/foobar-2000-for-dummies-part-3-


Claude

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Thanks to all of you for helping out here …. My settings are like in Section II in 'foobar-2000 for dummies'. Maybe I should experiment with settings from Section I - I'll retur later when I know more   ……:o)  

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