Euphony OS w/Stylus player setup and issues thread

[biosailor]

Same here, Stylus works now perfectly well with RopieeeXL on a Raspberry Pi 4.

 

Great work, Euphony Team!

[edwardsean]

Does anyone have news on Euphony v.4 that they are allowed to share?

 

Is this release being developed as a step up in SQ, features, both?

 

Projected release date?

[maxst67]

10 hours ago, biosailor said:

Same here, Stylus works now perfectly well with RopieeeXL on a Raspberry Pi 4.

 

Great work, Euphony Team!

Not knowing ropieee I did not understand well if to use it with Euphony on rpi4 as EP I must necessarily use Roon or do it through Stilus ... Thanks

[biosailor]

1 hour ago, maxst67 said:

Not knowing ropieee I did not understand well if to use it with Euphony on rpi4 as EP I must necessarily use Roon or do it through Stilus ... Thanks

RopieeeXL did work when you ran Roon via Euphony as Roon takes over control. Roon connects perfectly well with Ropieee(XL).

 

But till very recently, Stylus did not work with RopieeeXL. By ticking the box: detect UPnP devices, Stylus did detect RopieeeXL, but couldn’t play through it. Zeljco resolved the issue now and you can use Stylus to stream to a Raspberry Pi running RopieeeXL.

 

That‘s great news! Well done Euphony Team!

[maxst67]

13 hours ago, biosailor said:

RopieeeXL did work when you ran Roon via Euphony as Roon takes over control. Roon connects perfectly well with Ropieee(XL).

 

But till very recently, Stylus did not work with RopieeeXL. By ticking the box: detect UPnP devices, Stylus did detect RopieeeXL, but couldn’t play through it. Zeljco resolved the issue now and you can use Stylus to stream to a Raspberry Pi running RopieeeXL.

 

That‘s great news! Well done Euphony Team!

I tried to install ropieee and run rpi4 as EP with Stylus and everything works (Stylus sees RopieeeXL) except for the fact that I connect the rpi4 in i2s mode stylus does not play ... how should I set the output of the dac in ropieeeXL, I tried to insert rpi i2s in the HAT box but there is no sound ..... any advice in the configuration? Thank you

[biosailor]

15 minutes ago, maxst67 said:

I tried to install ropieee and run rpi4 as EP with Stylus and everything works (Stylus sees RopieeeXL) except for the fact that I connect the rpi4 in i2s mode stylus does not play ... how should I set the output of the dac in ropieeeXL, I tried to insert rpi i2s in the HAT box but there is no sound ..... any advice in the configuration? Thank you

As far as I know, RopieeeXL is only USB out.

[maxst67]

6 minutes ago, biosailor said:

As far as I know, RopieeeXL is only USB out.

Ok thank you

[Joerg D]

Hello
Is someone using ramroot with 4 GB ram. How are the experiences?

 

Jörg
 

 

[RickyV]

1 hour ago, Joerg D said:

Hello
Is someone using ramroot with 4 GB ram. How are the experiences?

 

Jörg
 

 

works without any problems but I only steam via Tidal, I beleave only two songs into ram.

[Joerg D]

5 minutes ago, RickyV said:

works without any problems but I only steam via Tidal, I beleave only two songs into ram.

When I try to set Ramroot there is an error message.
How do you adjust it?
Does it sound better with 4 GB?
 

Jörg
 

 

[RickyV]

7 hours ago, Joerg D said:

When I try to set Ramroot there is an error message.
How do you adjust it?
Does it sound better with 4 GB?
 

Jörg
 

 

what’s the massage? How many songs are you putting in your playlist?

Are streaming Tidal?

Initially I thought it did because it draws less current but now my power supply is good enough it has changed, maybe just speculating.  I just recently switched to 8GB Apacer ram and that is much better. 

[Joerg D]

37 minutes ago, RickyV said:

what’s the massage? How many songs are you putting in your playlist?

Are streaming Tidal?

Initially I thought it did because it draws less current but now my power supply is good enough it has changed, maybe just speculating.  I just recently switched to 8GB Apacer ram and that is much better. 

 

That is the error message. Željko then activated it for me. I don't know how he did it. The setting is gone after every update. I use Tidal, Qobuz and my music from the NAS. I didn't set the number of songs in the playlist.

 

Jörg

[TheAttorney]

3 hours ago, Joerg D said:

That is the error message. Željko then activated it for me. I don't know how he did it. The setting is gone after every update. I use Tidal, Qobuz and my music from the NAS. I didn't set the number of songs in the playlist.

Jörg

 

Ramroot with 4GB RAM only uses 39% of the RAM, so plenty of space for a handful of redbook FLAC albums to also be buffered to play queue. I don't know what you mean by "set the number of songs in the playlist", but there is no need to enter anything into the "Buffering RAM (GB)" field. Let Stylus sort it out automatically, so it will allow you to keep adding tracks to the play queue, but it will stop buffering them (if you've chosen the buffer option) as RAM nears it's limit.

 

I did get that error message a long time ago, which caused Željko to adjust the RAM-limit check to cater for 4GB, but I've not had that error for several Euphony/Stylus updates now.

 

I think your issue may be that you are trying to Enable ramroot when there are items in the playlist, so Stylus has less free RAM available to it at the point of checking the limit. Try clearing the playlist, then enable ramroot. Once ramroot is enabled, you can then add as many tracks as you like to the playlist, as above.

 

Regarding 4GB vs 8GB SQ, the more important question is whether your are using a better sounding RAM. And the better sounding Apacer RAM is currently not readily available in 4GB, as per the recent posts in the last page or two of this thread.

[Joerg D]

35 minutes ago, TheAttorney said:

Ramroot with 4GB RAM only uses 39% of the RAM, so plenty of space for a handful of redbook FLAC albums to also be buffered to play queue. I don't know what you mean by "set the number of songs in the playlist", but there is no need to enter anything into the "Buffering RAM (GB)" field. Let Stylus sort it out automatically, so it will allow you to keep adding tracks to the play queue, but it will stop buffering them (if you've chosen the buffer option) as RAM nears it's limit.

 

I did get that error message a long time ago, which caused Željko to adjust the RAM-limit check to cater for 4GB, but I've not had that error for several Euphony/Stylus updates now.

 

I think your issue may be that you are trying to Enable ramroot when there are items in the playlist, so Stylus has less free RAM available to it at the point of checking the limit. Try clearing the playlist, then enable ramroot. Once ramroot is enabled, you can then add as many tracks as you like to the playlist, as above.

 

Regarding 4GB vs 8GB SQ, the more important question is whether your are using a better sounding RAM. And the better sounding Apacer RAM is currently not readily available in 4GB, as per the recent posts in the last page or two of this thread.

 

Thanks for the help.
I deleted the queue, but I still get the error message. I did a reboot. But the error message always comes up. I also disabled "buffer before playing".

 

Jörg

 

[stefano_mbp]

14 hours ago, maxst67 said:

As far as I know, RopieeeXL is only USB out.

@maxst67 @biosailor it can output to a SPDiF hat too

The update with which Euphony will work as expected with upnp endpoint is not yet publicly available, that’s why it doesn’t work for now

[biosailor]

23 minutes ago, stefano_mbp said:

@maxst67 @biosailor it can output to a SPDiF hat too

The update with which Euphony will work as expected with upnp endpoint is not yet publicly available, that’s why it doesn’t work for now

Yes, of course, various HATs are available. It‘ll be interesting to see if they all play along with Euphony.

[stefano_mbp]

1 hour ago, biosailor said:

they all play along with Euphony

I have a rpi4/RoPieee XL with HiFiBerry Digi+ Pro and it works with Euphony 

[maxst67]

2 hours ago, stefano_mbp said:

@maxst67 @biosailor it can output to a SPDiF hat too

The update with which Euphony will work as expected with upnp endpoint is not yet publicly available, that’s why it doesn’t work for now

Thanks Stefano for the info ... so if I have not misunderstood you have to wait for the new update of Euphony to be able to use ropieee xl as an end point on rpi4 connected in i2s?

[stefano_mbp]

@maxst67yes, correct

[davide256]

 

Željko reached out to me the other day and my Oppo 103 is now working with Stylus UPNP. Looks like some additional UI options are needed

with UPNP to allow matching the endpoint  limitations (conversion needs) for speed, bit depth and whether DSD is supported.

 

 

[walloon]

On 2/4/2021 at 8:09 AM, Joerg D said:

 

That is the error message. Željko then activated it for me. I don't know how he did it. The setting is gone after every update. I use Tidal, Qobuz and my music from the NAS. I didn't set the number of songs in the playlist.

 

Jörg

Hi Jörg,

 

Did you check the Memory utilization percentage (Temp/CPU) before trying to enable ramroot?

[maxst67]

Any of you have suggestions to configure \ optimize the bios of the mobo (Gigabyte z390 Aorus mini Itx) to maximize performance with Euphony? Thanks so much

[davide256]

Really depends on the quality of your power supply...  start with low power settings to reduce noise generation from mother board  components and then compare/contrast by enabling faster operation options until you hear a negative result.

[davide256]

Playing around now with UPNP streaming to the Oppo 103 from Stylus. I've moved the Stylus server to a GigE port on the EtherRegen and connected

the Oppo to the "moated" FE port, using coax over AQ Eagle eye to a Mojo. Dynamics, transients, and tone color are good but I'm having an issue with

songs terminating in the middle, abruptly switching to next song, encountered same last night using wifi with Stylus on the FE port of the Regen.

Really like what I'm hearing, no digital nasties with the Oppo coax out but not the same detail resolution of going USB from server to DAC,

much better sound then when I used UPNP in the past

 

[biosailor]

21 minutes ago, davide256 said:

Playing around now with UPNP streaming to the Oppo 103 from Stylus. I've moved the Stylus server to a GigE port on the EtherRegen and connected

the Oppo to the "moated" FE port, using coax over AQ Eagle eye to a Mojo. Dynamics, transients, and tone color are good but I'm having an issue with

songs terminating in the middle, abruptly switching to next song, encountered same last night using wifi with Stylus on the FE port of the Regen.

Really like what I'm hearing, no digital nasties with the Oppo coax out but not the same detail resolution of going USB from server to DAC,

much better sound then when I used UPNP in the past

 

I had exactly the same issue, sometimes, a track would jump abruptly to the next, sometimes I could not start the track because Stylus was unresponsive. I had to wait a while and it would resume again.

 

This was on a MacBook Air > Ethernet > Raspi 4 running RopieeeXL > USB > Devialet. I took my MacBook from my office and re-installed it next to my stereo rack in the living room so that it is connected straight via USB to the Devialet. Works like charm now.

 

It looks like there are some pending issues with UPnP.

 

I don‘t hear much of a difference between RopieeeXL > USB and MacBook Air USB, somehow I prefer the latter. But no hard proofs to rely on!