Holzohr Posted April 4, 2019 Share Posted April 4, 2019 2 minutes ago, mozes said: Same thing happened with me. I fixed it by changing the boot from UEFI to Legacy. The NUC7CJYH (and NUC7PJYH) doesn' support Legacy unfortunately. Euphony (NUC7DNKE: Roon or Stylus) --> Euphony EP (NUC7CJYH: Roon Bridge or NAA or StylusEP) --> Matrix Audio X-SPDIF 2 --> Matrix Audio X-Sabre Pro (MQA) (I2S) --> Euphony (NUC7DNKE: Roon) --> WS 2019 Core (i7-8700: HQPlayer, JPLAY Femto, Roon Bridge, MinorityClean) / Matrix Audio Element H --> Matrix Audio X-Sabre Pro (MQA) (USB) --> B & M Prime 6 Synology DS 112+ (LMS) --> pi3B+/HifiBerry Digi + Pro (PiCorePlayer) --> Matrix Audio X-Sabre Pro (MQA) (SPDIF) --> bedroom: pi3/DigiOne (RoPieee) --> S.M.S.L M500 --> KRK Rokit 5 or AKG 712 Pro Link to comment
mozes Posted April 4, 2019 Share Posted April 4, 2019 12 minutes ago, Holzohr said: The NUC7CJYH (and NUC7PJYH) doesn' support Legacy unfortunately. Oh sorry for your bad luck Link to comment
austinpop Posted April 4, 2019 Share Posted April 4, 2019 18 minutes ago, mozes said: Can you pls share an example. Thanks Holzohr 1 My Audio Setup Link to comment
Popular Post Poldi Posted April 4, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted April 4, 2019 @mikicasellas@Holzohr@mozes Željko just wrote me that he found the mistake and he will release a new Euphony version tomorrow that should work for us. mikicasellas, Holzohr and mozes 1 2 Link to comment
mozes Posted April 4, 2019 Share Posted April 4, 2019 12 minutes ago, austinpop said: Thanks I guess the optimal settings will be system dependent i.e. CPU and RAM Link to comment
austinpop Posted April 4, 2019 Share Posted April 4, 2019 2 minutes ago, mozes said: Thanks I guess the optimal settings will be system dependent i.e. CPU and RAM Yes, of course. This is only for those who want to experiment, and know the pitfalls and risks. The key is to know how much physical RAM is in your box. Then go to "Temp/CPU" to check memory utilization. Based on that, you get a sense of free memory, so you know what you have to play with. In the example above, we are allocating: 2GB for input stream 2GB for output buffer 50MB for ALSA buffer Feel free to experiment, and post findings! Also, if you set a value in the freq fields, it unlocks a frequency monitor in the Temp/CPU panel. If you just want to know what the current frequency is, (Kenneth), just set a small value like 800MHz in the Min box and look at the freq monitor. FYI - frequency settings do not seem to work on the i7DNBE at the moment. It's probably due to the versions of kernel and cpupower Euphony uses, as frequency setting works fine in AL. My Audio Setup Link to comment
ted_b Posted April 4, 2019 Share Posted April 4, 2019 10 minutes ago, austinpop said: If you just want to know what the current frequency is, (Kenneth), austinpop 1 "We're all bozos on this bus"....F.T. My JRIver tutorial videos Actual JRIver tutorial MP4 video links My eleven yr old SACD Ripping Guide for PS3 (needs updating but still works) US Technical Advisor, NativeDSD.com Link to comment
mozes Posted April 4, 2019 Share Posted April 4, 2019 19 minutes ago, austinpop said: Yes, of course. This is only for those who want to experiment, and know the pitfalls and risks. The key is to know how much physical RAM is in your box. Then go to "Temp/CPU" to check memory utilization. Based on that, you get a sense of free memory, so you know what you have to play with. In the example above, we are allocating: 2GB for input stream 2GB for output buffer 50MB for ALSA buffer Feel free to experiment, and post findings! Also, if you set a value in the freq fields, it unlocks a frequency monitor in the Temp/CPU panel. If you just want to know what the current frequency is, (Kenneth), just set a small value like 800MHz in the Min box and look at the freq monitor. FYI - frequency settings do not seem to work on the i7DNBE at the moment. It's probably due to the versions of kernel and cpupower Euphony uses, as frequency setting works fine in AL. Great thanks for helping me decipher what these numbers mean. In my case, I have 8GB RAM and my CPU is a low powered one, Celeron 3160 which can run at a freq of 1.6 to 2.24 Ghz. I will play within these parameters and report what I hear. Link to comment
mozes Posted April 4, 2019 Share Posted April 4, 2019 51 minutes ago, austinpop said: FYI - frequency settings do not seem to work on the i7DNBE at the moment. It's probably due to the versions of kernel and cpupower Euphony uses, as frequency setting works fine in AL. Frequency doesn't work on my Jetway NF597 motherboard either. Link to comment
HeeBroG Posted April 5, 2019 Share Posted April 5, 2019 4 hours ago, austinpop said: Yes, of course. This is only for those who want to experiment, and know the pitfalls and risks. The key is to know how much physical RAM is in your box. Then go to "Temp/CPU" to check memory utilization. Based on that, you get a sense of free memory, so you know what you have to play with. In the example above, we are allocating: 2GB for input stream 2GB for output buffer 50MB for ALSA buffer Feel free to experiment, and post findings! Hi Rajiv, Forgive my ignorance but why does 2GB have fewer digits than 50MB? Geoff mozes 1 PH SR7 > MacMini+Uptone MMK Mod > Audirvana 3.2 > re-clocked D-LInk switch/LPS1.1 > sMS-200Ultra/LPS1.2 > tX-USBUltra/PH SR7 > Chord BluDave > Focal Utopia(Norne Silver) or Voxativ 9.87/ Stereo REL G1 Mk II Link to comment
Popular Post austinpop Posted April 5, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted April 5, 2019 15 minutes ago, HeeBroG said: Hi Rajiv, Forgive my ignorance but why does 2GB have fewer digits than 50MB? Geoff Because: -b has units of kilobytes -a has units of bytes Go figure! Reference: http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/trusty/man1/squeezelite.1.html -a <params> Specify parameters used when opening an audio output device. For ALSA, the format <b>:<p>:<f>:<m> is used where <b> is the buffer time in milliseconds (values less than 500) or size in bytes (default 40ms); <p> is the period count (values less than 50) or size in bytes (default 4 periods); <f> is the sample format (possible values: 16, 24, 24_3 or 32); <m> is whether to use mmap (possible values: 0 or 1). For PortAudio, the value is simply the target latency in milliseconds. When the output is sent to standard output, the value can be 16, 24 or 32, which denotes the sample size in bits. -b <stream>:<output> Specify internal stream and output buffer sizes in kilobytes. HeeBroG and mozes 2 My Audio Setup Link to comment
bobfa Posted April 5, 2019 Author Share Posted April 5, 2019 5 hours ago, Poldi said: @mikicasellas@Holzohr@mozes Željko just wrote me that he found the mistake and he will release a new Euphony version tomorrow that should work for us. 5 hours ago, austinpop said: I am just now getting around to trying to update and the update system is giving me an error. I bet that they shut it off to fix whatever was/is broken. SAD FACE😕 My Audio Systems Link to comment
Dev Posted April 5, 2019 Share Posted April 5, 2019 I tried updating but it stops at a popup message with error -302 Link to comment
Dev Posted April 5, 2019 Share Posted April 5, 2019 5 hours ago, austinpop said: I assume you are using Euphony on the Streamer as well ? Does the server also runs Euphony ? Link to comment
austinpop Posted April 5, 2019 Share Posted April 5, 2019 3 minutes ago, Dev said: I assume you are using Euphony on the Streamer as well ? Does the server also runs Euphony ? Yes, I am running trial instances of Euphony on both the Roon server, and the Squeezelite endpoint. My Audio Setup Link to comment
bobfa Posted April 5, 2019 Author Share Posted April 5, 2019 11 minutes ago, Dev said: I tried updating but it stops at a popup message with error -302 Ditto. I think they may have shut it off due to a problem that folks have found booting the new release. My Audio Systems Link to comment
Dev Posted April 5, 2019 Share Posted April 5, 2019 1 hour ago, austinpop said: Yes, I am running trial instances of Euphony on both the Roon server, and the Squeezelite endpoint. are you able to use native DSD or are they still DoP ? Its strange that even Roon's DoP conversion on Euphony i7 NUC shutters. Link to comment
austinpop Posted April 5, 2019 Share Posted April 5, 2019 Just now, Dev said: are you able to use native DSD or are they still DoP ? Its strange that even Roon's DoP conversion on Euphony i7 NUC shutters. Not sure what you mean? I have always used DoP for DSD content, both with Roon Bridge and Squeezelite, and that remains unchanged on Euphony. My Audio Setup Link to comment
Dev Posted April 5, 2019 Share Posted April 5, 2019 Just now, austinpop said: Not sure what you mean? I have always used DoP for DSD content, both with Roon Bridge and Squeezelite, and that remains unchanged on Euphony. I generally use native DSD since my DAC supports it. When I tried LMS/Squeezelite sometime back, native DSD worked fine but I don't remember if Roon/Squeezelite supported native DSD (I remember its limited to DSD64). I just now tried Euphony/Roon running on i7 NUC and AL/Squeezelite on CJY NUC and looks like DSD playback strategy is always DoP. When I play DSD content in Roon, converting to Dop shutters which is very strange since the i7 NUC is much more capable. Link to comment
austinpop Posted April 5, 2019 Share Posted April 5, 2019 1 minute ago, Dev said: I generally use native DSD since my DAC supports it. When I tried LMS/Squeezelite sometime back, native DSD worked fine but I don't remember if Roon/Squeezelite supported native DSD (I remember its limited to DSD64). I just now tried Euphony/Roon running on i7 NUC and AL/Squeezelite on CJY NUC and looks like DSD playback strategy is always DoP. When I play DSD content in Roon, converting to Dop shutters which is very strange since the i7 NUC is much more capable. Sorry - what do you mean by "shutters?" Sounds like you may have a config issue, as DoP encapsulation is not a CPU intensive process at all, and even an ARM or a Celeron can handle that without breaking a sweat, let alone a mighty i7! My Audio Setup Link to comment
Dev Posted April 5, 2019 Share Posted April 5, 2019 1 minute ago, austinpop said: Sorry - what do you mean by "shutters?" Sounds like you may have a config issue, as DoP encapsulation is not a CPU intensive process at all, and even an ARM or a Celeron can handle that without breaking a sweat, let alone a mighty i7! What I meant by shuttering is a sequence of brief pause followed by brief playback. Yes, Dop conversion (encapsulating in a pcm packet) works on a very low profile h/w. Thus I am bit surprised. On this very NUC when running AL, Roon is able to upsample to DSD256, let alone DoP. Not sure if its an issue with Euphony or not. Link to comment
austinpop Posted April 5, 2019 Share Posted April 5, 2019 1 minute ago, Dev said: What I meant by shuttering is a sequence of brief pause followed by brief playback. Yes, Dop conversion (encapsulating in a pcm packet) works on a very low profile h/w. Thus I am bit surprised. On this very NUC when running AL, Roon is able to upsample to DSD256, let alone DoP. Not sure if its an issue with Euphony or not. Ah - what I would call stuttering. Potato potahto. DSD over DoP works fine for me on Euphony with the NUC i7 endpoint. My Audio Setup Link to comment
Dev Posted April 5, 2019 Share Posted April 5, 2019 8 minutes ago, austinpop said: Ah - what I would call stuttering. Potato potahto. DSD over DoP works fine for me on Euphony with the NUC i7 endpoint. Yeah, that thingy 🙂 I think you upgraded to the newer version. Do you remember if it worked with the older version of Euphony ? I am running release version 20190214. Link to comment
austinpop Posted April 5, 2019 Share Posted April 5, 2019 18 minutes ago, Dev said: Yeah, that thingy 🙂 I think you upgraded to the newer version. Do you remember if it worked with the older version of Euphony ? I am running release version 20190214. Did not try DSD on the old build, but it definitely works for me on 20190403. My Audio Setup Link to comment
bobfa Posted April 5, 2019 Author Share Posted April 5, 2019 21 minutes ago, Dev said: Yeah, that thingy 🙂 I think you upgraded to the newer version. Do you remember if it worked with the older version of Euphony ? I am running release version 20190214. That older version did not run the right processes for roon bridge. I would update when available. My Audio Systems Link to comment
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