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Hey, opticalModule users, here is the set-up we will use at Rocky Mountain Audio Fest to feed the optical signal to our Signature Rendu SEoptical.  This is the opticalModule with a prototype power supply (5 VDC 1A), Sonore AC cable, and custom (short) star quad, single crystal, copper DC cable.  Production versions of this power supply are in development, expected availability, 4-6 weeks after RMAF....

 

 

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Nice power cord from Sonore - which for me needing two meters would be 1.5X the price of the UltraSupply and 3X the price of the opticalModule! It had better sound good! 


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18 minutes ago, charlesphoto said:

Nice power cord from Sonore - which for me needing two meters would be 1.5X the price of the UltraSupply and 3X the price of the opticalModule! It had better sound good! 

Indeed:) We are actually looking at offering a power supply cable just for the ultraSupply product line. 

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8 hours ago, barrows said:

Hey, opticalModule users, here is the set-up we will use at Rocky Mountain Audio Fest to feed the optical signal to our Signature Rendu SEoptical.  This is the opticalModule with a prototype power supply (5 VDC 1A), Sonore AC cable, and custom (short) star quad, single crystal, copper DC cable.  Production versions of this power supply are in development, expected availability, 4-6 weeks after RMAF....

 

 

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Can I use UltraSupply to power OM? What is the advantage of this power supply over UltraSupply to power OM?

 

I am looking for a PS for OM. If this new PS is better than UltraSupply, I rather wait.

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9 hours ago, vortecjr said:

What country are you located in?

 

9 hours ago, vortecjr said:

What country are you located in?

I’m in US. I just measured voltage and it does show 5 v. Anything else I can check?

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5 minutes ago, Adyc said:

 

Can I use UltraSupply to power OM? What is the advantage of this power supply over UltraSupply to power OM?

 

I am looking for a PS for OM. If this new PS is better than UltraSupply, I rather wait.

IMO, 7 VDC is not ideal for the oM.  The power supply design for the oM is specifically designed for its requirements.  That is not to say that one could not use the ultraSupply for the oM, but the oM will run rather warm with 7 VDC input.

These two power supplies have different designs, but both are excellent, the new supply is just more suitable for the different power needs of the oM.  Price is unknown at this time, but will be similar to that of the ultraSupply 7.0 VDC.


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19 hours ago, barrows said:

IMO, 7 VDC is not ideal for the oM.  The power supply design for the oM is specifically designed for its requirements.  That is not to say that one could not use the ultraSupply for the oM, but the oM will run rather warm with 7 VDC input.

These two power supplies have different designs, but both are excellent, the new supply is just more suitable for the different power needs of the oM.  Price is unknown at this time, but will be similar to that of the ultraSupply 7.0 VDC.

 

Are you saying that the uptone ultra cap LPS-1 at 5V isn't well matched with the oM?

 


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39 minutes ago, dminches said:

Are you saying that the uptone ultra cap LPS-1 at 5V isn't well matched with the oM?

LPS 1.2 at 5 VDC is good for the opticalModule.  Sonore does not recommend the LPS 1 for any of our products.


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1 minute ago, barrows said:

LPS 1.2 at 5 VDC is good for the opticalModule.  Sonore does not recommend the LPS 1 for any of our products.

@barrows Are you sure about your statement that the LPS-1 is not recommended for ANY of the Sonore products ? I own 2 mrendus, for which the LPS-1 was highly praised when they both the LPS-1 and mrendu came out. Same for the ultrarendus. I think the LPS-1/LPS-2 are not recommended only for the optical rendu. Please clarify. 

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I repeat:  Sonore does not recommend the LPS 1.0 for any of our products.  Indeed it will work for the microRendu, ultraRendu, and opticalModule, but it will not provide the best performance.  We do recommend the LPS 1.2 for those products (but not for the opticalRendu).


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Is the 5V Channel Islands Audio power supply ok to use with the oM?  I am asking because I already have one of those and would like to start there is it is acceptable.

 

 


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Purchased one OM and got it hooked up today.  It replaced my Trendnet TFC-1000MGA.  Basically just replaced the Trendnet (plug n play) with the OM.

 

All I get is studdering (won't play for .5 sec) see sig for my gear/setup.  I'm using two identical FMC's = Cisco glc-sx-mm

 

OM is powered by Jameco reliapro 5W, 5V, 1 Amp from the Trendnet.

 

Switch is a TP-Link TL-SG2216 (flow control enabled on ports) => Fiber comes from TL-SG2216 switch (laundry room) to listening room and the OM gets the fiber and then a short 8" Ethernet cable to mU in audio rack

 

If this is the same issue with the TP-Link FMC's => mU / endpoints wouldn't run very well using GB optical speed or something like that and Chris/Jabbor recommended using a dumb 10/100 switch, which solved the issue for many.  Thus the Trendnet FMC which is a 10/100/1000 FMC and has worked beautifully without issue since adopting that.  Not one issue.

 

Was seriously considering a OR after getting a OM going and not sure if this is a mU issue, but if one has to use an additional dumb switch in between OM and mU (in audio rack in my instance) I would be against that for obvious reasons.  I did however do that exact thing as a test => Prosafe GS105 5 port GB dumb switch.  Solved the issue. 

 

Ideas?

 

 

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14 minutes ago, Foggie said:

Purchased one OM and got it hooked up today.  It replaced my Trendnet TFC-1000MGA.  Basically just replaced the Trendnet (plug n play) with the OM.

 

All I get is studdering (won't play for .5 sec) see sig for my gear/setup.  I'm using two identical FMC's = Cisco glc-sx-mm

 

OM is powered by Jameco reliapro 5W, 5V, 1 Amp from the Trendnet.

 

Switch is a TP-Link TL-SG2216 (flow control enabled on ports) => Fiber comes from TL-SG2216 switch (laundry room) to listening room and the OM gets the fiber and then a short 8" Ethernet cable to mU in audio rack

 

If this is the same issue with the TP-Link FMC's => mU / endpoints wouldn't run very well using GB optical speed or something like that and Chris/Jabbor recommended using a dumb 10/100 switch, which solved the issue for many.  Thus the Trendnet FMC which is a 10/100/1000 FMC and has worked beautifully without issue since adopting that.  Not one issue.

 

Was seriously considering a OR after getting a OM going and not sure if this is a mU issue, but if one has to use an additional dumb switch in between OM and mU (in audio rack in my instance) I would be against that for obvious reasons.  I did however do that exact thing as a test => Prosafe GS105 5 port GB dumb switch.  Solved the issue. 

 

Ideas?

 

 

Hiya

Do I understand correctly that you're feeding the OM directly from the TL-SG2216 switch in the laundry room? If so, - did you try rebooting the OM and then immediately after rebooting the TL-SG2216? Then, - restart that MRendu? This has been my process, - and almost always fixes either no connectivity, - or spitting....

Cheers,

 

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1 hour ago, Foggie said:

Purchased one OM and got it hooked up today.  It replaced my Trendnet TFC-1000MGA.  Basically just replaced the Trendnet (plug n play) with the OM.

 

All I get is studdering (won't play for .5 sec) see sig for my gear/setup.  I'm using two identical FMC's = Cisco glc-sx-mm

 

OM is powered by Jameco reliapro 5W, 5V, 1 Amp from the Trendnet.

 

Switch is a TP-Link TL-SG2216 (flow control enabled on ports) => Fiber comes from TL-SG2216 switch (laundry room) to listening room and the OM gets the fiber and then a short 8" Ethernet cable to mU in audio rack

 

If this is the same issue with the TP-Link FMC's => mU / endpoints wouldn't run very well using GB optical speed or something like that and Chris/Jabbor recommended using a dumb 10/100 switch, which solved the issue for many.  Thus the Trendnet FMC which is a 10/100/1000 FMC and has worked beautifully without issue since adopting that.  Not one issue.

 

Was seriously considering a OR after getting a OM going and not sure if this is a mU issue, but if one has to use an additional dumb switch in between OM and mU (in audio rack in my instance) I would be against that for obvious reasons.  I did however do that exact thing as a test => Prosafe GS105 5 port GB dumb switch.  Solved the issue. 

 

Ideas?

 

 

What output mode are you using? What version of Sonic Orbiter are you on and when was the last update?

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1 hour ago, Albrecht said:

Hiya

Do I understand correctly that you're feeding the OM directly from the TL-SG2216 switch in the laundry room? If so, - did you try rebooting the OM and then immediately after rebooting the TL-SG2216? Then, - restart that MRendu? This has been my process, - and almost always fixes either no connectivity, - or spitting....

Cheers,

 

Yes correct.  I did turn off everything but the SG2216 switch (feeding house network) but certainly can try that.  I doubt that will resolve it but will try.  

 

Although there are no connectivity issues in so far as everything in the chain can see the mU.

 

ill restart everything (after the game !)

 

 

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38 minutes ago, vortecjr said:

What output mode are you using? What version of Sonic Orbiter are you on and when was the last update?

The mU is being used as NAA if that is what you are asking?

 

I believe 2.7 is the version, I’ll verify

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On 9/5/2019 at 7:48 PM, Foggie said:

Purchased one OM and got it hooked up today.  It replaced my Trendnet TFC-1000MGA.  Basically just replaced the Trendnet (plug n play) with the OM.

 

All I get is studdering (won't play for .5 sec) see sig for my gear/setup.  I'm using two identical FMC's = Cisco glc-sx-mm

 

OM is powered by Jameco reliapro 5W, 5V, 1 Amp from the Trendnet.

 

Switch is a TP-Link TL-SG2216 (flow control enabled on ports) => Fiber comes from TL-SG2216 switch (laundry room) to listening room and the OM gets the fiber and then a short 8" Ethernet cable to mU in audio rack

 

If this is the same issue with the TP-Link FMC's => mU / endpoints wouldn't run very well using GB optical speed or something like that and Chris/Jabbor recommended using a dumb 10/100 switch, which solved the issue for many.  Thus the Trendnet FMC which is a 10/100/1000 FMC and has worked beautifully without issue since adopting that.  Not one issue.

 

Was seriously considering a OR after getting a OM going and not sure if this is a mU issue, but if one has to use an additional dumb switch in between OM and mU (in audio rack in my instance) I would be against that for obvious reasons.  I did however do that exact thing as a test => Prosafe GS105 5 port GB dumb switch.  Solved the issue. 

 

Ideas?

 

 

Yes. The opticalModule didn't work with HQP for me using SDM output and higher Bit rate.

My solution was that my fantastic swedish distributor bought back my ultraRendu and I bought a opticalRendu that works and sounds amazing with any settings on the HQPlayer.

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On 9/6/2019 at 3:00 AM, sgb said:

Yes. The opticalModule dosn't work with HQP if you are using SDM output and higher Bit rate. I had the same problem. It worked when I put a switch between the OM and the DAC. But that's not a good solution.

My solution was that my fantastic swedish distributor bought back my ultraRendu and I bought a opticalRendu that works and sounds amazing with any settings on the HQPlayer.

The opticalModule and opticalRendu combination will always works well with HQ Player and NAA because the opticalRendu has built in flow control capabilities. When you use a microRendu or ultraRendu with an opticalModule the flow control is requested but your switch or router has to handle the request which can be hit or mis on some systems.    

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