Popular Post vortecjr Posted March 9, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted March 9, 2019 The Sonore opticalModule is a bi-directional fiber media converter or FMC. The opticalModule has an SFP fiber optic transceiver on one side and an RJ45 connector on the other side. The unit can be used to add fiber-optic networking to your existing wired network or convert your existing fiber optic network to a wired network. The unit can be used with a microRendu, ultraRendu, opticalRendu, Signature Rendu series (ethernet or optical), or any other network endpoint. FEATURES 1. High-quality low noise linear regulator 2. External power input jack 3. RJ45 input connector 4. Fixed frequency ultra low jitter FEMTO oscillator 5. Includes one SFP fiber optic transceiver 6. Power connector: 2.1mm x 5.5mm (center +) 7. Power input: 5-9 VDC 8. Dimension: 3.5"x2.2"x.7" TYPICAL USAGE Optical Ethernet to Cable Ethernet Converter Cable Ethernet to Optical Ethernet Converter The opticalModule is systemOptique certified This is the specification for the fiber optic cable that works with the SFP modules that we are providing with the opticalRendu, opticalModule, and the starter kit: Fiber Optic Cable - OM1 - Multimode (62.5/125) - Duplex - LC to LC You can buy this product on amazon.com here: https://amzn.to/2Tl9L0q bobfa, Dutch, shahed99 and 2 others 4 1 SONORE computer audio | opticalRendu | ultraRendu | microRendu | Signature Rendu SE | endPoint | opticalModule DX | Power Supplies | Link to comment
Steve Bruzonsky Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 Any idea when the standalone version will be available? Link to comment
vortecjr Posted March 21, 2019 Author Share Posted March 21, 2019 3 hours ago, Steve Bruzonsky said: Any idea when the standalone version will be available? What do you mean standalone version? SONORE computer audio | opticalRendu | ultraRendu | microRendu | Signature Rendu SE | endPoint | opticalModule DX | Power Supplies | Link to comment
Dutch Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 1 hour ago, vortecjr said: What do you mean standalone version? It’s you who named it this way, see your first post in this topic. asdf1000 1 System details Link to comment
vortecjr Posted March 21, 2019 Author Share Posted March 21, 2019 11 hours ago, Dutch said: It’s you who named it this way, see your first post in this topic. Hahaha...I thought he meant something else. SONORE computer audio | opticalRendu | ultraRendu | microRendu | Signature Rendu SE | endPoint | opticalModule DX | Power Supplies | Link to comment
vortecjr Posted March 21, 2019 Author Share Posted March 21, 2019 16 hours ago, Steve Bruzonsky said: Any idea when the standalone version will be available? It’s looking like May if things go according to plan. SONORE computer audio | opticalRendu | ultraRendu | microRendu | Signature Rendu SE | endPoint | opticalModule DX | Power Supplies | Link to comment
valveboy Posted March 24, 2019 Share Posted March 24, 2019 On 3/9/2019 at 9:01 AM, vortecjr said: The Sonore opticalModule is a bi-directional fiber media converter or FMC. The opticalModule has an SFP fiber optic transceiver on one side and an RJ45 connector on the other side. The unit can be used to add fiber-optic networking to your existing wired network or convert your existing fiber optic network to a wired network. The unit can be used with a microRendu, ultraRendu, opticalRendu, Signature Rendu series (ethernet or optical), or any other network endpoint. FEATURES 1. High-quality low noise linear regulator 2. External power input jack 3. RJ45 input connector 4. Fixed frequency ultra low jitter FEMTO oscillator 5. Includes one SFP fiber optic transceiver 6. Power connector: 2.1mm x 5.5mm (center +) 7. Power input: 5-9 VDC 8. Dimension: 3.5"x2.2"x.7" TYPICAL USAGE Optical Ethernet to Cable Ethernet Converter Cable Ethernet to Optical Ethernet Converter The opticalModule is systemOptique certified List of systemOptique certified gear This is the specification for the fiber optic cable that works with the SFP modules that we are providing with the opticalRendu, opticalModule, and the starter kit: Fiber Optic Cable - OM1 - Multimode (62.5/125) - Duplex - LC to LC You can buy this product on amazon.com here: https://amzn.to/2Tl9L0q what is the cost of this FMC compared to other brands like TP Link? Link to comment
Superdad Posted March 24, 2019 Share Posted March 24, 2019 1 hour ago, valveboy said: what is the cost of this FMC compared to other brands like TP Link? Announced retail price is $249. https://www.smallgreencomputer.com/products/opticalmodule?variant=16212951007266 valveboy 1 UpTone Audio LLC Link to comment
valveboy Posted March 24, 2019 Share Posted March 24, 2019 1 hour ago, Superdad said: Announced retail price is $249. https://www.smallgreencomputer.com/products/opticalmodule?variant=16212951007266 thanks very much for prompt reply! Link to comment
Frojo Posted March 24, 2019 Share Posted March 24, 2019 1 hour ago, Superdad said: Announced retail price is $249. https://www.smallgreencomputer.com/products/opticalmodule?variant=16212951007266 This is a bit disappointing given the previous indication (in the initial post) was 'MSRP 199'....... Link to comment
vortecjr Posted March 24, 2019 Author Share Posted March 24, 2019 3 hours ago, Frojo said: This is a bit disappointing given the previous indication (in the initial post) was 'MSRP 199'....... The quotes for the production run exceeded our estimates. Things are just more expensive to make these days... valveboy 1 SONORE computer audio | opticalRendu | ultraRendu | microRendu | Signature Rendu SE | endPoint | opticalModule DX | Power Supplies | Link to comment
jabbr Posted March 24, 2019 Share Posted March 24, 2019 4 hours ago, Frojo said: This is a bit disappointing given the previous indication (in the initial post) was 'MSRP 199'....... Sheesh, they are making this, its not mass production ... barrows 1 Custom room treatments for headphone users. Link to comment
asdf1000 Posted March 24, 2019 Share Posted March 24, 2019 52 minutes ago, vortecjr said: The quotes for the production run exceeded our estimates. Things are just more expensive to make these days... Is opticalModule (FMC) a @JohnSwenson design? MikeJazz 1 Link to comment
lxgreen Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 I just checked out the link for the optical module and it is already sold out. I currently have a Sonore Signature Rendu SE that I recently upgraded to the optical version. As I stated in an earlier post, I noticed a difference in sq but not sure if I would call it better. If it is better, certainly not a lot better and I do have a very nice system. I am using the Trendnet FMC now. So my decision point will be to replace the Trendnet FMC with the optical module or wait for the uptone etherregen and run an optical cable directly from the optical port to the rendu so no need for the FMC or optical module. When all you early adopters get the optical module, it will be nice to hear your thoughts on how/if it improves so over some std FMC. Link to comment
rickca Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 1 minute ago, lxgreen said: I just checked out the link for the optical module and it is already sold out. It's not really sold out, it just isn't available to order yet. Pareto Audio AMD 7700 Server --> Berkeley Alpha USB --> Jeff Rowland Aeris --> Jeff Rowland 625 S2 --> Focal Utopia 3 Diablos with 2 x Focal Electra SW 1000 BE subs i7-6700K/Windows 10 --> EVGA Nu Audio Card --> Focal CMS50's Link to comment
vortecjr Posted March 25, 2019 Author Share Posted March 25, 2019 4 hours ago, Em2016 said: Is opticalModule (FMC) a @JohnSwenson design? Yes. asdf1000 1 SONORE computer audio | opticalRendu | ultraRendu | microRendu | Signature Rendu SE | endPoint | opticalModule DX | Power Supplies | Link to comment
vortecjr Posted March 25, 2019 Author Share Posted March 25, 2019 1 hour ago, rickca said: It's not really sold out, it just isn't available to order yet. Correct...coming soon! valveboy 1 SONORE computer audio | opticalRendu | ultraRendu | microRendu | Signature Rendu SE | endPoint | opticalModule DX | Power Supplies | Link to comment
Frojo Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 8 hours ago, jabbr said: Sheesh, they are making this, its not mass production ... And your point is?....... its hand assembled and therefore good value or its not production line assembled and therefore cost estimates are difficult to assess within 25% of initial calculations? Link to comment
Popular Post firedog Posted March 25, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted March 25, 2019 49 minutes ago, Frojo said: And your point is?....... its hand assembled and therefore good value or its not production line assembled and therefore cost estimates are difficult to assess within 25% of initial calculations? What's really your gripe? Jesus gave an educated guess about what the price would be based on past experience. When he got the real prices of the components he realized the retail would have to be higher. Wow, his initial estimate was incorrect. So what? He didn't promise $199. Have you ever designed and marketed such a product? Do you actually know whats involved in making a profit on it? The only thing posts like yours accomplish is to make producers like Jesus decide to refrain from giving us preliminary info. 4est, barrows and Elberoth 3 Main listening (small home office): Main setup: Surge protector +>Isol-8 Mini sub Axis Power Strip/Isolation>QuietPC Low Noise Server>Roon (Audiolense DRC)>Stack Audio Link II>Kii Control>Kii Three (on their own electric circuit) >GIK Room Treatments. Secondary Path: Server with Audiolense RC>RPi4 or analog>Cayin iDAC6 MKII (tube mode) (XLR)>Kii Three . Bedroom: SBTouch to Cambridge Soundworks Desktop Setup. Living Room/Kitchen: Ropieee (RPi3b+ with touchscreen) + Schiit Modi3E to a pair of Morel Hogtalare. All absolute statements about audio are false Link to comment
Frojo Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 12 minutes ago, firedog said: What's really your gripe? Jesus gave an educated guess about what the price would be based on past experience. When he got the real prices of the components he realized the retail would have to be higher. Wow, his initial estimate was incorrect. So what? He didn't promise $199. Have you ever designed and marketed such a product? Do you actually know whats involved in making a profit on it? The only thing posts like yours accomplish is to make producers like Jesus decide to refrain from giving us preliminary info. I am not griping and i agree with your comments. It was an expression of disappointment, no more. I was somewhat irked by Jabbr's response given that Jesus had already addressed my comment- he didn't seem unduly upset Link to comment
Popular Post jabbr Posted March 25, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted March 25, 2019 6 hours ago, Frojo said: I am not griping and i agree with your comments. It was an expression of disappointment, no more. I was somewhat irked by Jabbr's response given that Jesus had already addressed my comment- he didn't seem unduly upset I have no relationship with Sonore and speak only for myself. Folks around here know that I can and will give my blunt but hopefully objective opinions. I have been an early and strong proponent for the use of optical Ethernet in general and specifically for audio. I am thrilled that Sonore is introducing products at this price point. This is a bargain at $250 and your other option is a $50 throwaway FMC. My own equipment was $15,000-$20,000 range when it was introduced but can be had for a bargain on eBay. There is no competition to this (opticalModule) and I’m thrilled that Jesus is able to bring the product to market at a price that will promote widespread usage. Not that it is hand assembled (I hope not!) rather that it has to be designed, assembled packaged, marketed, sold & supported. 4est, Ralf11 and barrows 2 1 Custom room treatments for headphone users. Link to comment
Frojo Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 I am well aware of your support for optical ethernet and have read and re-read your thread regarding the same- well done ! Quite why you felt it necessary to comment - 'Sheesh, they are making this, its not mass production ...' I don't understand. The assessment regarding cost of production et al are part of any business model planning and i repeat , i am disappointed that the MSRP has jumped by 25% in the space of three weeks - why is that unreasonable? Link to comment
alexreusch Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 The external power supply of the opticalRendu is a very critical part. How do you rate the importance of the external power supply for the opticalModule? Same or less important as for the opticalRendu? Why? Link to comment
firedog Posted March 26, 2019 Share Posted March 26, 2019 17 hours ago, Frojo said: i am disappointed that the MSRP has jumped by 25% in the space of three weeks - why is that unreasonable? Since there was no MSRP, it can't have jumped by 25% in the space of three weeks. There was a Jesus' guesstimate of $199. That's all, and that isn't an MSRP. Main listening (small home office): Main setup: Surge protector +>Isol-8 Mini sub Axis Power Strip/Isolation>QuietPC Low Noise Server>Roon (Audiolense DRC)>Stack Audio Link II>Kii Control>Kii Three (on their own electric circuit) >GIK Room Treatments. Secondary Path: Server with Audiolense RC>RPi4 or analog>Cayin iDAC6 MKII (tube mode) (XLR)>Kii Three . Bedroom: SBTouch to Cambridge Soundworks Desktop Setup. Living Room/Kitchen: Ropieee (RPi3b+ with touchscreen) + Schiit Modi3E to a pair of Morel Hogtalare. All absolute statements about audio are false Link to comment
Frojo Posted March 26, 2019 Share Posted March 26, 2019 1 hour ago, firedog said: Since there was no MSRP, it can't have jumped by 25% in the space of three weeks. There was a Jesus' guesstimate of $199. That's all, and that isn't an MSRP. On 3/9/2019 at 2:01 PM, vortecjr said: 1. Standalone version (as shown above), MSRP ~199 USD, currently in pre-production ? Link to comment
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