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5 hours ago, Jud said:


What are your settings for bridge device connected to a DAC?

Yes provide the info jud is asking but I don’t get it as well when I stream through microRendu.  The setting is controlled through upsample tab.

what is your settings for upsample tab.  Can u sent us a picture of that please?

2 Channel: Mac mini with Audirvana + & A+ Remote -> Netgear AC170 -> microRendu -> Chord Mojo -> oppo HA-1 -> Arcam  P49 -> B&W 804 D3

5 Channel: Apple TV/Sony XBR-65A9G -> Rotel RSP-1098 -> oppo HA-1 (bypass) -> Arcam P49 -> B&W 804 D3 (L/R), Arcam P349 -> B&W 804 D3 (C), B&W 805 D3 (RR/LR)

 

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20 hours ago, Musicophile said:

Another compliment to @damien78 for the new Remote release.  
 

I agree with some the previous comments that there is always room for some more small fixes, but overall this is a fantastic improvement over the previous version on both iPad and iPhone. 
 

Great job!

This is not a complain.  As I said the app is fantastic.

 

Damien is always looking into improving the product he releases and with our help he can get the bugs out of the app to make it even better.

 

Thanks again @damien78 for the great app update.

2 Channel: Mac mini with Audirvana + & A+ Remote -> Netgear AC170 -> microRendu -> Chord Mojo -> oppo HA-1 -> Arcam  P49 -> B&W 804 D3

5 Channel: Apple TV/Sony XBR-65A9G -> Rotel RSP-1098 -> oppo HA-1 (bypass) -> Arcam P49 -> B&W 804 D3 (L/R), Arcam P349 -> B&W 804 D3 (C), B&W 805 D3 (RR/LR)

 

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3 hours ago, mazuly said:

Yes provide the info jud is asking but I don’t get it as well when I stream through microRendu.  The setting is controlled through upsample tab.

what is your settings for upsample tab.  Can u sent us a picture of that please?

 

Thanks and that's good to know that when you connect your microRendu you don't see those options. Will post up sample settings later today. 

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1 hour ago, jrd1975 said:

 

Thanks and that's good to know that when you connect your microRendu you don't see those options. Will post up sample settings later today. 

 

Thinking about this again. The microRendu is USB and I guess will work without specifying DOP? 

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13 hours ago, RunHomeSlow said:

 

 

Not sure if that what you mean, but go the preferences on remote and edit how you see things...

for me, i really miss beeing able to see my albums by YEAR...

 

 


Yes I have selected Genre / Artist / Album in the settings.

 

In the old remote, it very handily displayed a list of all genres down the left hand window of the screen (when using ipad in landscape mode). Click on a genre, only those albums covers displayed in the right window. Perfect!

 

In this new remote, when one clicks upon Albums, you just get a screen full of every album cover. Yes, they are arranged by my selection of Genre / Artist / Album, but there is not a header/title displaying the genre to separate out the albums into easily navigable groupings.

 

To be honest I have never been happy with the new Audirvana, much preferred the layout of the 2.* versions. And now I dislike this new remote too. Really feel like each paid upgrade has been a downgrade for me which ALWAYS ends up causing me wasting precious time to sort out issues like this. Think I’ll move back to my Raspberry Pi3b and Moode unless I can get this new remote app to display Genre headings in Albums view.

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14 hours ago, JohnM73 said:

....What’s happened to being able to have all albums displayed under Genre headings? That’s how I chiefly viewed and navigated my library, and without the ability to list albums by genre - or have the option to select a certain genre....

 


Whilst I never used the browsing features, I too primarily pick albums (rarely if ever tracks) from genres. However, I’ve created about 20+ smart playlists based on genres (another 60-odd based on albums and artists). 
 

Hard for Damien and co. to cater for all our different ... ‘play-flows’. 
 

Hopefully, the new remote can be developed over time. 🙂

TF cards - USB  -> GentooPlayer in RAM on Rpi4b, Ian’s PurePi II, FIFO Q7, HDMI-pro  -> Audio GD R-27 -> S.A.T. Infinity monoblocks -> Gallo Stradas + TR-3 sub / Erzetich Phobos

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15 minutes ago, JohnM73 said:


Yes I have selected Genre / Artist / Album in the settings.

 

In the old remote, it very handily displayed a list of all genres down the left hand window of the screen (when using ipad in landscape mode). Click on a genre, only those albums covers displayed in the right window. Perfect!

 

In this new remote, when one clicks upon Albums, you just get a screen full of every album cover. Yes, they are arranged by my selection of Genre / Artist / Album, but there is not a header/title displaying the genre to separate out the albums into easily navigable groupings.

 

To be honest I have never been happy with the new Audirvana, much preferred the layout of the 2.* versions. And now I dislike this new remote too. Really feel like each paid upgrade has been a downgrade for me which ALWAYS ends up causing me wasting precious time to sort out issues like this. Think I’ll move back to my Raspberry Pi3b and Moode unless I can get this new remote app to display Genre headings in Albums view.

You do realize you can simply filter by genre?

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3 hours ago, Musicophile said:

You do realize you can simply filter by genre?

 

Yes, but I don't want to have to keep doing that when with the 'old' app you simply could click on ANY genre on the left hand side without all the back and forth between screens to select then deselect or change the filter options. It seems unnecessarily convoluted compared to how it was. I still consider the Genre field as an essential to easily (and quickly) finding music and something that should really be added to the Home screen (under the LOCAL heading) of the app. Cheers.

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7 hours ago, jrd1975 said:

 

Thinking about this again. The microRendu is USB and I guess will work without specifying DOP? 

Let me try with my oppo blue ray player since that only has spdif output.

2 Channel: Mac mini with Audirvana + & A+ Remote -> Netgear AC170 -> microRendu -> Chord Mojo -> oppo HA-1 -> Arcam  P49 -> B&W 804 D3

5 Channel: Apple TV/Sony XBR-65A9G -> Rotel RSP-1098 -> oppo HA-1 (bypass) -> Arcam P49 -> B&W 804 D3 (L/R), Arcam P349 -> B&W 804 D3 (C), B&W 805 D3 (RR/LR)

 

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16 minutes ago, mazuly said:

Let me try with my oppo blue ray player since that only has spdif output.

Interesting.  I get DSD not supported for both oppo and Sony tv.  I remember getting DSD 64 on the oppo with the previous version of Audirvana.

With microRendu I can actually setup the DSD rate all the way up to 512 but I do not get any setting for DOP.

2 Channel: Mac mini with Audirvana + & A+ Remote -> Netgear AC170 -> microRendu -> Chord Mojo -> oppo HA-1 -> Arcam  P49 -> B&W 804 D3

5 Channel: Apple TV/Sony XBR-65A9G -> Rotel RSP-1098 -> oppo HA-1 (bypass) -> Arcam P49 -> B&W 804 D3 (L/R), Arcam P349 -> B&W 804 D3 (C), B&W 805 D3 (RR/LR)

 

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41 minutes ago, mazuly said:

Interesting.  I get DSD not supported for both oppo and Sony tv.  I remember getting DSD 64 on the oppo with the previous version of Audirvana.

With microRendu I can actually setup the DSD rate all the way up to 512 but I do not get any setting for DOP.

 

That's really very kind of you to take the trouble to try that! Chapuea!

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19 hours ago, Jud said:


What are your settings for bridge device connected to a DAC?

 

Hi Jud

 

I am not 100% sure this is the information your asking for as I'm a bit sketchy on the terminology....

 

But here goes :)

 

Device Settings in A+

 

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Upsampling settings in A+

 

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General settings in RopieeeXL

 

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Advanced settings in RopieeeXL

 

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RopieeeXL settings in RopieeeXL

 

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And finally - working settings in Roon

 

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14 hours ago, mazuly said:

Damien is always looking into improving the product he releases and with our help he can get the bugs out of the app to make it even better.

 

I assume Damien doesn't want Audirvana to be just "Adequately Equipped" with a remote, but "Outstanding" with the most user-friendly, easy to understand remote. A remote that's a match for the amazing sound we get from Audirvana.

Adequate.jpg

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11 minutes ago, bnbayer said:

 

I assume Damien doesn't want Audirvana to be just "Adequately Equipped" with a remote, but "Outstanding" with the most user-friendly, easy to understand remote. A remote that's a match for the amazing sound we get from Audirvana.

Adequate.jpg

Agreed 

2 Channel: Mac mini with Audirvana + & A+ Remote -> Netgear AC170 -> microRendu -> Chord Mojo -> oppo HA-1 -> Arcam  P49 -> B&W 804 D3

5 Channel: Apple TV/Sony XBR-65A9G -> Rotel RSP-1098 -> oppo HA-1 (bypass) -> Arcam P49 -> B&W 804 D3 (L/R), Arcam P349 -> B&W 804 D3 (C), B&W 805 D3 (RR/LR)

 

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26 minutes ago, jrd1975 said:

 

Hi Jud

 

I am not 100% sure this is the information your asking for as I'm a bit sketchy on the terminology....

 

But here goes :)

 

Device Settings in A+

 

1904230340_Screenshot2019-10-20at18_40_00.thumb.png.955f5b288f7af5b2b9be135b000c6241.png

 

Upsampling settings in A+

 

1736861223_Screenshot2019-10-20at18_32_18.png.8ee02e688774e9c417b48d3952aa7500.png

 

General settings in RopieeeXL

 

135283058_Screenshot2019-10-20at18_46_32.thumb.png.52bc3b3da8e5da099bfb98969354ca7d.png

 

Advanced settings in RopieeeXL

 

899374528_Screenshot2019-10-20at18_47_45.thumb.png.6a1c7571fb651be5b2aca90e10d0e186.png

 

RopieeeXL settings in RopieeeXL

 

380325686_Screenshot2019-10-20at18_48_41.thumb.png.64e6907b334bc335767011e2c5e93773.png

 

 

And finally - working settings in Roon

 

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To me all setting seems ok.  Jud can maybe provide more feedback.

 

I Have a feeling that Audirvana is not doing DoP v1.0 anymore and maybe that why you don’t get a sound.  Maybe that’s why I can’t do DSD on oppo anymore.

 

@damien78 any feedback on this?

2 Channel: Mac mini with Audirvana + & A+ Remote -> Netgear AC170 -> microRendu -> Chord Mojo -> oppo HA-1 -> Arcam  P49 -> B&W 804 D3

5 Channel: Apple TV/Sony XBR-65A9G -> Rotel RSP-1098 -> oppo HA-1 (bypass) -> Arcam P49 -> B&W 804 D3 (L/R), Arcam P349 -> B&W 804 D3 (C), B&W 805 D3 (RR/LR)

 

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This Album just sounds amazing streaming through Audirvana:

https://tidal.com/album/102396785
My new reference recording.

2 Channel: Mac mini with Audirvana + & A+ Remote -> Netgear AC170 -> microRendu -> Chord Mojo -> oppo HA-1 -> Arcam  P49 -> B&W 804 D3

5 Channel: Apple TV/Sony XBR-65A9G -> Rotel RSP-1098 -> oppo HA-1 (bypass) -> Arcam P49 -> B&W 804 D3 (L/R), Arcam P349 -> B&W 804 D3 (C), B&W 805 D3 (RR/LR)

 

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47 minutes ago, jrd1975 said:

 

Hi Jud

 

I am not 100% sure this is the information your asking for as I'm a bit sketchy on the terminology....

 

But here goes :)

 

Device Settings in A+

 

1904230340_Screenshot2019-10-20at18_40_00.thumb.png.955f5b288f7af5b2b9be135b000c6241.png

 

Upsampling settings in A+

 

1736861223_Screenshot2019-10-20at18_32_18.png.8ee02e688774e9c417b48d3952aa7500.png

 

General settings in RopieeeXL

 

135283058_Screenshot2019-10-20at18_46_32.thumb.png.52bc3b3da8e5da099bfb98969354ca7d.png

 

Advanced settings in RopieeeXL

 

899374528_Screenshot2019-10-20at18_47_45.thumb.png.6a1c7571fb651be5b2aca90e10d0e186.png

 

RopieeeXL settings in RopieeeXL

 

380325686_Screenshot2019-10-20at18_48_41.thumb.png.64e6907b334bc335767011e2c5e93773.png

 

 

And finally - working settings in Roon

 

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Not sure this will help, but what happens if you change maximum PCM bit depth to 32 for your device (if you can)?

One never knows, do one? - Fats Waller

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18 minutes ago, jrd1975 said:

 

Same behaviour I'm afraid. Hissing and very feint music in background.

What happens in Roon if you change DoP to a different version? 

Do you get hissing and faint music in background?

if yes, then DoP is the issue here since Audirvana may use a different DoP version.

2 Channel: Mac mini with Audirvana + & A+ Remote -> Netgear AC170 -> microRendu -> Chord Mojo -> oppo HA-1 -> Arcam  P49 -> B&W 804 D3

5 Channel: Apple TV/Sony XBR-65A9G -> Rotel RSP-1098 -> oppo HA-1 (bypass) -> Arcam P49 -> B&W 804 D3 (L/R), Arcam P349 -> B&W 804 D3 (C), B&W 805 D3 (RR/LR)

 

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29 minutes ago, mazuly said:

What happens in Roon if you change DoP to a different version? 

Do you get hissing and faint music in background?

if yes, then DoP is the issue here since Audirvana may use a different DoP version.

 

Will check tomorrow. Thanks. 

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I just downloaded the new remote app and my first impression is finally the app works!  I never liked the old remote and would frequently just go back to the computer and select what I wanted.  Also, things seemed to hang up when using the remote even though it was the computer (27" iMac) running everything. 

 

I like that I can now see what is hi-res on Qobuz, and that the selection screens follow the desktop as close as possible, and follow normal standards of apps too.

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7 hours ago, zacster said:

Also, things seemed to hang up when using the remote even though it was the computer (27" iMac) running everything. 

That's probably the app and computer aren't on speaking terms anymore, even though it looks like they are. Quit and restart app, or reselect computer on the app.

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