Ishmael Slapowitz Posted March 4, 2019 Share Posted March 4, 2019 "In other words, EACH track sounds better if played briefly and then restarted." Seriously, friend, life is far too short. ".. is not subtle".. this the go to remark from those who listen to micro details and not music. Just IMO of course. 😎 sandyk 1 Link to comment
Ishmael Slapowitz Posted March 5, 2019 Share Posted March 5, 2019 33 minutes ago, fas42 said: Unfortunately, it can be the difference between the music sounding a bit flat, tired, uninteresting - versus sparkling, lively, something that engages one emotionally. That is, subjectively, it matters a great deal - for some people. As psychiatrist, this stuff plays in to the worst OCD tendencies. Show me the same results blind. How about captures off the DAC analog output Measurements? This sort of magical stuff should be able to be measured. esldude 1 Link to comment
Popular Post Ishmael Slapowitz Posted March 5, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted March 5, 2019 Honestly, IMO, it is this kind of meshuga that keeps folks away from high end audio in droves.😅 esldude, Hugo9000, Ralf11 and 1 other 4 Link to comment
Ishmael Slapowitz Posted March 5, 2019 Share Posted March 5, 2019 1 hour ago, Doak said: Another good reason, if you need any more, to keep a computer out of your music reproduction system. Any decent dedicated digital music streamer will preload at least a whole song before pressing its own little play button. Boom. Precisely Link to comment
Popular Post Ishmael Slapowitz Posted March 5, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted March 5, 2019 9 minutes ago, fas42 said: Distortion is not magical. "Should be be able to be measured" is correct, but the industry hasn't taken the interest in devising useful tests - inertia is an effective tyrant. In the meantime those who are interested use their ears - those who are not interested can be comforted by reassuring measurements of competence . I am not a measurements guy, trust me. But there is no distortion. The premise of this thread is silly, and lead many who should be enjoying good playback down the primrose path. Ralf11 and esldude 1 1 Link to comment
Ishmael Slapowitz Posted March 5, 2019 Share Posted March 5, 2019 18 minutes ago, fas42 said: There is always distortion from playback systems, no matter how expensive or optimised they are - if there wasn't, a rig would always sound identical playing back a particular recording . Some distortion types are very easy to measure, others much less so - and I worry, a lot, about the latter varieties. Unfortunately, the hard to measure versions have a lot to do with conveying the quality of vitality, and 'naturalness' in recordings - but very few people take these areas seriously, which is a shame. Again, the real solution is to engineer the playback components to a much higher standard - but that's unlikely to occur in the short term ... workarounds, etc, are usually the best option, as it stands. I don't disagree with your post, Yes of course there is always some sort of distortion, heck there is distortion at the point of mic or DI capture. Just as there is bacteria in every morsel of food we eat. The question is does it matter. Link to comment
Popular Post Ishmael Slapowitz Posted March 5, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted March 5, 2019 44 minutes ago, Jim Smith said: Not at all. Musical engagement - when it can be even greater - is the reason for pursuing this issue. On another board, I mentioned that the level on some transients - when the track is replayed after a few seconds - appear to be slightly louder, enough that I might try to measure it at my listening seat. I could say that your response is "just silly", but you are certainly entitled it to your opinion, no matter how crudely stated. There is absolutely zero corroborating evidence to your claim aside from your subjective observations. Quite frankly it tells me there is some flaw in your digital playback chain Even if we suspend disbelief and say it is so, starting every track or album after a bit of playback would destroy any enjoyment far more than any claimed issue. Heck, I have a lot of live performances to attend in the coming months, I will ask the performers to play a minute of each piece or song and then start again to clear the air of any sonic residue. 😎 I DO think this thread is silly, but just my opinion. 🤠 mansr and Teresa 2 Link to comment
Ishmael Slapowitz Posted March 6, 2019 Share Posted March 6, 2019 14 minutes ago, Ralf11 said: You realize this is the guy with the 10 pages of commonly known stuff inflated into an entire book, right? It's like arguing with a used car salesman about camshaft lift and combustion flame spread velocity. Yes, I know of the book. 🤠 Not related to to it, is floating the notion of digital gremlins that need to be snuffed out has been going on for ages, and there are clearly some legitimate issues and very practical fixes. This however, to me, is ridiculous Dutch 1 Link to comment
Ishmael Slapowitz Posted March 6, 2019 Share Posted March 6, 2019 29 minutes ago, Ralf11 said: You realize this is the guy with the 10 pages of commonly known stuff inflated into an entire book, right? It's like arguing with a used car salesman about camshaft lift and combustion flame spread velocity. I also just noted a plug for the book in the OP..also no audio system listed...unless I am looking in the wrong place, I just see a resume. Dutch and Ralf11 1 1 Link to comment
Ishmael Slapowitz Posted March 6, 2019 Share Posted March 6, 2019 Real simple fix in the end. Dump the computer and get a purpose built network player/renderer. End of story. wgscott 1 Link to comment
Ishmael Slapowitz Posted March 6, 2019 Share Posted March 6, 2019 1 hour ago, Jim Smith said: My question was an honest request for possible help in an area which is not in my skill-set (computers). I can make it work, but not at its best without restarting the tracks when they are from different CDs. It is not all that subtle - I have demo'd it to various listeners and all could hear it easily. Not sure why you cannot offer a helpful suggestion rather than an uninformed diatribe. However, having just seen your system set-up in your profile, I think I may know why after all. 🤔 You can have the last word... Honestly, judging someone by what you think their system sounds like is the ultimate audiophile blowhard move.😅 You don't list your system here. I could also speculate that someone who uses Audirvana and a computer for playback has no idea what state of the art digital playback is.🤠 daverich4 and Blake 2 Link to comment
Ishmael Slapowitz Posted March 6, 2019 Share Posted March 6, 2019 3 minutes ago, The Computer Audiophile said: Nobody wants to read you guys bitch at each other. Get over it and move on. Just a little edgy kibitzing.....🤐 Superdad 1 Link to comment
Ishmael Slapowitz Posted March 6, 2019 Share Posted March 6, 2019 23 minutes ago, Superdad said: Actually he does. It is right in his signature at the bottom of every post. And on his profile page Jim lists his history in the industry over the past 47 years. For the record, on both an iPhone and iPad his signature did not appear..on my PC it does. I see it now, thanks. Link to comment
Ishmael Slapowitz Posted March 7, 2019 Share Posted March 7, 2019 22 minutes ago, Allan F said: Please reconsider the above, Jim. Have some consideration for the rest of us. Oy Vey.🤗 Link to comment
Ishmael Slapowitz Posted March 7, 2019 Share Posted March 7, 2019 The vinyl guys who computer 'philes often like to make fun up are laughing their tuchus off right now..😎 fas42 1 Link to comment
Ishmael Slapowitz Posted March 7, 2019 Share Posted March 7, 2019 4 hours ago, The Computer Audiophile said: I think I just saw one fall down after getting zapped by his anti-static gun :~) Haha..or getting vaporized by an ultrasonic vacuum vinyl cleaner..🤗 Link to comment
Ishmael Slapowitz Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 4 minutes ago, mansr said: Ultrasonic cleaners could be useful for vinyl records. I don't have any vinyl, but my ultrasonic cleaner is great for getting grime out of tight spaces like the links in the wristband of my "fancy" watch. As for watches, a cheap one might not survive that treatment, so there's that. Oh those cleaners work for sure...but some of them are absurdly expensive and break down easily....but they work! But then remember they then have to de-magnetize! Link to comment
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