The Computer Audiophile Posted March 2, 2019 Share Posted March 2, 2019 Hmmmmmm. Founder of Audiophile Style | My Audio Systems Link to comment
Axiom05 Posted March 2, 2019 Share Posted March 2, 2019 Not good and very disappointing coming from Music Hall, I would have expected better. Thanks for posting this. Main System: [Synology DS216, Rpi-4b LMS (pCP)], Holo Audio Red, Ayre QX-5 Twenty, Ayre KX-5 Twenty, Ayre VX-5 Twenty, Revel Ultima Studio2, Iconoclast speaker cables & interconnects, RealTraps acoustic treatments Living Room: Sonore ultraRendu, Ayre QB-9DSD, Simaudio MOON 340iX, B&W 802 Diamond Link to comment
mansr Posted March 2, 2019 Share Posted March 2, 2019 They've obviously given it the TICE treatment. Link to comment
The Computer Audiophile Posted March 2, 2019 Author Share Posted March 2, 2019 58 minutes ago, mansr said: They've obviously given it the TICE treatment. TICE? Founder of Audiophile Style | My Audio Systems Link to comment
mansr Posted March 2, 2019 Share Posted March 2, 2019 5 minutes ago, The Computer Audiophile said: TICE? Surely you've heard of the TICE clock? Link to comment
The Computer Audiophile Posted March 2, 2019 Author Share Posted March 2, 2019 6 minutes ago, mansr said: Surely you've heard of the TICE clock? I hadn’t! Seems like I was the only one. Founder of Audiophile Style | My Audio Systems Link to comment
firedog Posted March 2, 2019 Share Posted March 2, 2019 Well I guess MH could claim you get better support, international dealer network, etc. Hey, it also looks more audiophile in black vs red. Main listening (small home office): Main setup: Surge protector +>Isol-8 Mini sub Axis Power Strip/Isolation>QuietPC Low Noise Server>Roon (Audiolense DRC)>Stack Audio Link II>Kii Control>Kii Three (on their own electric circuit) >GIK Room Treatments. Secondary Path: Server with Audiolense RC>RPi4 or analog>Cayin iDAC6 MKII (tube mode) (XLR)>Kii Three . Bedroom: SBTouch to Cambridge Soundworks Desktop Setup. Living Room/Kitchen: Ropieee (RPi3b+ with touchscreen) + Schiit Modi3E to a pair of Morel Hogtalare. All absolute statements about audio are false Link to comment
ARQuint Posted March 2, 2019 Share Posted March 2, 2019 The Tice clock was before Chris’s time. You didn’t miss anything. The Computer Audiophile 1 Link to comment
Popular Post mansr Posted March 2, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted March 2, 2019 9 minutes ago, ARQuint said: The Tice clock was before Chris’s time. You didn’t miss anything. Before mine too, but I thought it was famous enough that everybody knew of it, just like the green CD pen. The Computer Audiophile and esldude 1 1 Link to comment
Popular Post JoeWhip Posted March 2, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted March 2, 2019 Not before mine. I remember it well. Never bought one though. 😀You plugged it into a wall outlet and it allowed the electrons in your romex anywhere it the house to flow more efficiently. I can’t believe how many they sold. Jud and The Computer Audiophile 1 1 Link to comment
Popular Post mansr Posted March 2, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted March 2, 2019 4 minutes ago, JoeWhip said: Not before mine. I remember it well. Never bought one though. 😀You plugged it into a wall outlet and it allowed the electrons in your romex anywhere it the house to flow more efficiently. I can’t believe how many they sold. And now there's this: https://www.psaudio.com/products/noise-harvester/ The Tice clock would at least tell the time. Hugo9000, esldude, The Computer Audiophile and 1 other 1 3 Link to comment
JoeWhip Posted March 2, 2019 Share Posted March 2, 2019 That is a downright bargain. 😎 the Tice clock was $300 back in the early 90’s. The Computer Audiophile 1 Link to comment
Paul R Posted March 2, 2019 Share Posted March 2, 2019 3 hours ago, mansr said: They've obviously given it the TICE treatment. Whoo boy - will that never be forgotten? I’ve often wondered if Randi set that up... Anyone who considers protocol unimportant has never dealt with a cat DAC. Robert A. Heinlein Link to comment
Paul R Posted March 2, 2019 Share Posted March 2, 2019 1 hour ago, ARQuint said: The Tice clock was before Chris’s time. You didn’t miss anything. Jeeeze - it was just 1990 or 1991 wasn’t it? Historical audio charaltans - interesting. 👨🦳 Anyone who considers protocol unimportant has never dealt with a cat DAC. Robert A. Heinlein Link to comment
Popular Post The Computer Audiophile Posted March 2, 2019 Author Popular Post Share Posted March 2, 2019 27 minutes ago, Paul R said: Whoo boy - will that never be forgotten? I’ve often wondered if Randi set that up... Ah! An inside job 😁 25 minutes ago, Paul R said: Jeeeze - it was just 1990 or 1991 wasn’t it? Historical audio charaltans - interesting. 👨🦳 I was a freshman in high school with a Technics receiver and $64 Kenwood speakers. I hadn’t chased the HiFi dragon just yet but was enamored by good quality playback. Compared to my friend’s giant boom box I was really livin’ the good life. Superdad and Paul R 2 Founder of Audiophile Style | My Audio Systems Link to comment
firedog Posted March 2, 2019 Share Posted March 2, 2019 2 hours ago, mansr said: And now there's this: https://www.psaudio.com/products/noise-harvester/ The Tice clock would at least tell the time. That isn't new, it's been around a long time. I don't remember where, but I did see a review once where they had measurements that showed less noise on the line when these were plugged in. Don't remember any of the details, I'm sure you could find it if you are interested. Main listening (small home office): Main setup: Surge protector +>Isol-8 Mini sub Axis Power Strip/Isolation>QuietPC Low Noise Server>Roon (Audiolense DRC)>Stack Audio Link II>Kii Control>Kii Three (on their own electric circuit) >GIK Room Treatments. Secondary Path: Server with Audiolense RC>RPi4 or analog>Cayin iDAC6 MKII (tube mode) (XLR)>Kii Three . Bedroom: SBTouch to Cambridge Soundworks Desktop Setup. Living Room/Kitchen: Ropieee (RPi3b+ with touchscreen) + Schiit Modi3E to a pair of Morel Hogtalare. All absolute statements about audio are false Link to comment
AudioDoctor Posted March 2, 2019 Share Posted March 2, 2019 I just finished watching the video on youtube, was going to post it. No electron left behind. Link to comment
Popular Post new_media Posted March 2, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted March 2, 2019 This is what I immediately thought of when you guys mentioned "TICE." Paul R and Superdad 2 Link to comment
fas42 Posted March 3, 2019 Share Posted March 3, 2019 https://www.stereophile.com/miscellaneous/784/index.html Makes sense. Everything that alters the waveforms on the mains power can alter the sound - because the engineering of nearly all audio components is inadequate to reject the impact of that changed environment. People are happy to tell the story that rigs sound better late at night, because all the crap on the power lines is less - but somehow using some device which directly attenuates or changes the waveform of the noise, in a deliberate way, is a weirdo thing to do, . Just because something "ain't scientific" doesn't mean there won't be an effect - the real job is to work out what's going on, and devise an efficient means of getting the same benefits, if any occur. Link to comment
new_media Posted March 3, 2019 Share Posted March 3, 2019 And sometimes bullshit is just bullshit. Link to comment
mansr Posted March 3, 2019 Share Posted March 3, 2019 34 minutes ago, fas42 said: People are happy to tell the story that rigs sound better late at night That's probably because ambient noise tends to be lower at night. Less traffic, etc. spin33 1 Link to comment
fas42 Posted March 3, 2019 Share Posted March 3, 2019 Explanations can be BS. Because they protecting IP - just look at how patents are worded to cover the real knowledge - or because they don't understand themselves what's going on. Here an expression involving baby, throw, and bathwater comes to mind ... Link to comment
fas42 Posted March 3, 2019 Share Posted March 3, 2019 Just now, mansr said: That's probably because ambient noise tends to be lower at night. Less traffic, etc. Possibly in some instances - the local audio friend who now does a lot of tweaking in the same fashion as I do lives in a totally quiet, dead end street still hears this behaviour - listens for many hours up past midnight, and hears a clear trend. He doesn't take as many measures as I would to combat power line noise - and so would be more subject to this, IMO. Link to comment
Ralf11 Posted March 3, 2019 Share Posted March 3, 2019 the price difference is in the tilt of the darker caps Link to comment
lucretius Posted March 3, 2019 Share Posted March 3, 2019 12 hours ago, The Computer Audiophile said: I hadn’t! Seems like I was the only one. https://www.stereophile.com/content/tice-r-4-tpt-coherence-electrotec-ep-c-clocks-thomas-j-norton-october-1990 mQa is dead! Link to comment
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