Popular Post bobfa Posted February 16, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted February 16, 2019 Update February 2020 I recently has the opportunity to test the JCAT USB and Net cards in my server. These cards are a worthy upgrade and I would highly suggest that you consider them in your systems design. My testing was done using the Xeon machine as a single box solution and the two cards made a lot of difference. Update October 2019 Over the summer I have been testing a lot of things around my server and the current place I have landed is the server is now connected to the Kii Control in my main system via a txUSBultra. I am running Euphony Stylus software as the player. I am editing this post to reflect where I have arrived. Update April 2019 There are a few changes in the server that are important. First, I have moved to Euphony OS to run the Roon server software. Next I removed the USB storage drive and am pulling from a NAS for the music. The third change was to change the power supply. I removed the DC-ATX converter and replaced the HDPLEX200 with the HDPLEX400. February 2019 I have built a custom music server to run Roon Core. BECAUSE! I have a perfectly good server or rather a GREAT one from Small Green Computer. Andrew makes excellent hardware, and the OS in the machine is stable and supports a lot of music player software. It is "Plug and Play” and very well supported. It does not lend itself to tinkering! I want to listen and tinker with some different ideas with, setup, power, networking, and connectivity. Thus my build. Just like my build of the NUC endpoint, I am doing this build in public so that others can duplicate it or follow along. A Side Note: John Darko put up a very timely video. It is ostensibly a review of sparkling water and the Innuos ZEN MK3. John speaks the way I think. This is not hard if you have “The Knack.” And No Soldering iron required! General Goals: Roon Core Server Euphony OS $389 "Swap-able" components, MB, CPU, Power I want this build to sound GREAT Key design features: Multiple network interfaces for bridging and more No WiFi High TDP capable Xeon, ECC RAM, Optane Storage Option for mass storage Fan-less Powered by an outboard LPS PCIe expansion card with SFP for network testing System Description A dedicated silent workstation / small business class server. The case is fan-less, with an external power supply. There is 16GB of ECC RAM and a 32GB Optane SSD for boot, and database storage. There are two onboard network interfaces which are different Intel generations. I have a PCIe network interface card with a single SFP slot to be the optical network bridge to the "best" endpoint that I will be testing with later. The motherboard supports either Xeon or 8th Generation core Intel processors in the LGA1151 socket. The chipset is VPRO and thus supports Optane storage. The board also supports both ECC and non-ECC RAM with four slots. I am using the entry-level E-Series Xeon E-2124G processor to start with as the price and availability are good. The E-2124G has a TDP of 71 which is well within the case specs. I am using ECC RAM that has been validated to work with the motherboard. Music storage is an interesting problem. I read through the threads on AS about data storage and to be honest, without some summary there is too much data to compile into a “best practice.” In my testing with a different NAS and a different server than I am running now, the NAS did not sound “as good.” I do not want the drive inside the server, as indications are that internal storage degrades sound quality. The Case for the Case! I have been researching this for several months, and I picked the HDPLEX case due to the flexibility of their design. The H5 case fits up to a full ATX motherboard like I am using. The H5 case can also support adding a graphics card to your build which I am not using. There is room for both 2.5in and 3.5in storage devices. The H5 case is designed to support alternative power supply configurations which is one of the bigger keys to performance. After a lot of testing I am now using the HDPLEX 400 direct into the machine. I have not yet changed to the Ghent cables that others are using.: Buying "stuff." Picking suppliers is a problem today. Many online stores are marketplaces with other vendors inside of them, and that adds risk to the purchase process. I purchased most of the server computer components from Newegg.com. The Power supplies and case came directly from HDPLEX. I want to thank Larry at HDPLEX for helping me validate the fit of my motherboard selection during the pre-purchase process. Great customer service there! I purchased these from Newegg $248 ASUS WS C246 Pro Motherboard $250 Intel Xeon E-2124G $214 Two Kensington 8GB ECC RAM (check MB validated models) I purchased this from Amazon. $62 Intel 32GB Optane M.2 SSD From HDPLEX I purchased the following items: $485 HDPLEX200 LPS $388 2nd Gen H5 Case with 400W DC to ATX internal supply I have added an Element H USB card $250 I am now using an HDPLEX 400 power supply For Music Storage I am now using my QNAP NAS I will not count research time as that is endless. Actual construction and setup were completed over two days. I estimate about 10 hours of review, assembly, software configuration, and BIOS learning. As a reminder, I do this stuff for FUN. If this sounds like work, please buy a commercial server you will be happier! ———— BIOS Setup I have turned off all the fan controls and monitoring. The fancy signed secure boot had to be turned off. I have NOT changed any of the default CPU settings. I have not turned off all of the “other” hardware that I will not be using. I had some issues with the boot order. I have not found the way to boot off of USB first every time. (I will try to do BIOS screenshots later) ———— Euphony Stylus Setup As of about April 2019 I have fully moved off of AudioLinux to Euphony OS and I switch between Roon and Euphony Stylus as my playback software. Follow the instructions on the website for trial download and setup. This custom port of linux and player software cost $289 USD and I was very happy to pay that. https://euphony-audio.com ————— Build Process I am an experienced PC builder, and they usually go together pretty quickly. This build took a bit longer than I expected. Taking great care with the heatsink, the heat-pipes, as well as the first time is this kind of case slowed me down. If I built a second one I could do it in half a day. Please remember to use proper anti-static protection. Do not over-use heat-sink compound! And have fun! Let's get started! Here are the "goodies" to start building the case This is the heatsink system A little out of context! This is a single Motherboard stud. You have to place them properly for your board. Next we put the posts and the power switch button on the side panel and mount the PCB for the USB ports, etc. Here is the side panel mounted to the base and you can see the motherboard standoffs already inserted. Now it is time to start on the CPU heatsink On the LGA11551 socket, the pins for the CPU are on the motherboard. CAREFULLY place the CPU on the socket and close the locking cover and bar. I did not take a picture of the underside of the motherboard where the bottom part of the headsink system attaches. The casemanul covers this pretty well Add the heatsink compound to the base of the copper heatsink Here is the base of the heatsink attached to the motherboard Another view of the case with the side panel, MB and heatsink ready for the heat pipes. The manual covers the intall of the heatpipes well. Again donot over use heatsink compound and proceed slowly. Here are some shots of the system installed and hooked up You can see the RAM and the Optane drive installed here. I have since removed the DC to ATX supply! This is the other side of the case. I hate how black things collect dust and stuff. I purchased the HDPLEX 400 power supply and here are the changes to the server to remove the DC-ATX converter and connect the new supply. I disconnected the DC-ATX converter and removed it from the case. (sorry no picture) First the old 19V socket and mount have to be removed to place the back to back ATX boards. This really requires you to remove the back panel first. There are four studs installed and the board pair is screwed into the back plate. Then the two internal cables are run from the connector board to the Motherboard. The two longer cables are connected to the outside of the case and run to the back of the HDPLEX supply. NOTE DO NOT FORGET TO SET THE AC INPUT VOLTAGE SELECTOR PROPERLY! Not hard at all. LTG2010, zerung, Oscarhuge and 15 others 5 6 7 My Audio Systems Link to comment
bobfa Posted February 16, 2019 Author Share Posted February 16, 2019 This thread is parallel to my NUC Thread. I will edit the thread as I finish the project. (IF it is ever finished) My Audio Systems Link to comment
bobfa Posted February 17, 2019 Author Share Posted February 17, 2019 With ZERO issues so far. There is no graphics card for one thing and Roon hardly tickles the CPU load playing to one or two endpoints. I will be taking some measurements over time. ciccio1112 1 My Audio Systems Link to comment
Popular Post bobfa Posted February 17, 2019 Author Popular Post Share Posted February 17, 2019 The chip I have does have a GPU on it> I have no PCIe board. The E-2124G has P630 graphics. That matches up with the motherboard that has no onboard graphics and I did not want to have a PCIe graphics card. https://ark.intel.com/products/134854/Intel-Xeon-E-2124G-Processor-8M-Cache-up-to-4-50-GHz- motberg and bibo01 1 1 My Audio Systems Link to comment
bobfa Posted February 17, 2019 Author Share Posted February 17, 2019 Status report I have not had time to finish my music transfer. The external drive is now hooked up to the server, and I am SFTPed into the system from my iMac using Transmit5. Transmit5 is sending 4Tb of data over. I was looking for other ways to do this and found that I like this method. It is simple to do, and the performance over the gigabit wired LAN is reasonable. I drug over several folders in the application, and I thought it did one at a time. NOPE, it was busy with one, and after that finished, it is now doing several. When the smaller folders finish, it will be faster per file... I have Roon watching the folder and importing the music. The transfer will take some time but I can stream from the internet. My Audio Systems Link to comment
bobfa Posted February 17, 2019 Author Share Posted February 17, 2019 I would never suggest that this is a project that anyone should start without the support and knowledge you need. There are bumps along the road. I am having fun. A commercial product might have some additional features. From watching the John Darko video I linked in the first post the new software on the Innous ZEN MK3 looks nice. The Sonic Transporter I have has support in a different way but good. AudioLinux headless menu system also provides a clean way to do most management. I am working with several different ways to manage the music on the drive attached to the server. I use a terminal program or a web browser to log into the server. I have used an SFTP program to transfer data to the storage drive. I am looking at remote sync. My Audio Systems Link to comment
bobfa Posted February 18, 2019 Author Share Posted February 18, 2019 Building a 16 hours ago, austinpop said: Fun project. Can't wait to hear the results! I wish you could hear the results. I do have a few others that come by and help/listen. My Audio Systems Link to comment
bobfa Posted February 18, 2019 Author Share Posted February 18, 2019 My math (it is not perfect) and thus the systems design says that I can use a CPU with a 95W TDP. That would mean that it should be able to run any of the CPUs in the E-21xxG series: https://ark.intel.com/products/series/134861/Intel-Xeon-E-Processor The top E-2186G is a 95W DTP with six cores and twelve threads. My "MAIN" concern here is to see if it sounds better than what I have. My listening so far has been limited. I am still fussing with overall systems design. I did get a listen to Emerson Lake and Palmer Pictures and an Exhibition today. I did not want to leave the listening room, but a broken dishwasher is interrupting my music time. Along with some snow! My Audio Systems Link to comment
bobfa Posted February 18, 2019 Author Share Posted February 18, 2019 Some notes observing the thermal behavior of the server during Roon fingerprinting. I have all of my music loaded into the server. Roon does background audio analysis of all new tracks loaded. I had left it to throttled the default. The CPUs were not any warmer than on idle around 35C. CPU load was up a little bit from idle. So I "turned it up a bit"! I set it to run in Fast (4 cores). The Xeon is flying through this faster than what I have used before. I have been watching it and the HDPLEX200 power supply. I have not opened the case to see how the DC - ATX converter is doing, but the bottom of the case where it is attached is slightly warm.! After about 3 hours running. Here are a couple of screen grabs from the Audiolinux status menus. The temps are around 57 to 60C. and the CPU is around 50% For a little fun, I fired up my Flir One camera on the iPhone and took a couple of shots with it. Note I do not know the actual temperatures here. The heat-pipes from the CPU connect to the right side of the H5 case. The hard drive on top of the server is just "warm." The left side of the HDPLEX 200 is pretty warm. Not hot you can hold your hand on it no problem. It is winter here, and the basement where all this gear is running is about 65F ambient. These numbers and pictures indicate normal behavior. After all of the analysis is done I will grab some more numbers. Bob rickca 1 My Audio Systems Link to comment
bobfa Posted February 19, 2019 Author Share Posted February 19, 2019 My DIY Xeon Roon Core server up and running, and along with the fun, there are challenges. One of those challenges is the local music file management. My server is a stand alone music-appliance; the music is a copy of the master library stored on my iMac. To that end, I have attached an 8TB drive in a USB enclosure and connected that to the server via USB 3.0 and powered directly by the HDPLEX200. Audiolinux does not appear to have file sharing services on by default, and I did not want to set up those services when SSH and SFTP work just fine. Over the past couple of days, I have been testing different methods of managing the music data on the server. I tried standard file copy methods by attaching the drive to my iMac, two SFTP programs and a few other crazy methods. I settled on using the Linux ext4 disk format as it is native. The Mac (or PC) needs to have individual drivers to access that format. I tried using the Paragon driver, and it caused my iMac to crash (black screen reboot) during data transfer. It is not viable in the long run. I have a couple of programs for SFTP, but I like Yummy FTP Pro for this project. It has the controls I need to manage the transfers and maintains the best speed over time in my testing. I can enable automation to automatically update the server. If you have a Setapp subscription, Yummy FTP Pro is free. Transmit 5 works very well, but I observed more slowdowns during significant transfers. Transfer speed is not a problem during regular updates. The total transfer time for 3.5TB of music using SFTP over gigabit Ethernet was 20 hours. There were a bunch of weird slowdowns, some of which matched up with Time Machine backups. Moreover, I got to do it twice because I changed my mind on which disk format I was going to use. NOTE: I currently do NOT make metadata changes using Roon as there as I do not have a feedback method to update the master. I hope to be able to address this in the future. My Audio Systems Link to comment
bobfa Posted February 19, 2019 Author Share Posted February 19, 2019 John, Welcome to the Forums! I hope that you enjoy what you find here. I am sorry I do not have time to generate that work it is a big job to do that. There are a LOT of PC build videos on YouTube that can help you. There are very few steps past what is shown. There is quite a bit of assumed knowledge here. You will need experience with basic Linux commands, some mechanical skills and basic tools. bob My Audio Systems Link to comment
bobfa Posted February 21, 2019 Author Share Posted February 21, 2019 IMG_1100.mov Up and Running! I have had the system up for a few days. The OS is running in RAM and Audiolinix is set for Extreme. The CPU is running around 30C. The server will be on the workbench for a while yet. I want to start testing the Fiber network card in the server. The HDPLEX200 is running the external FMC, disk drive, and the server. I have loaded the music in and Roon has finished fingerprinting! The power supply is fed with Transparent Audio power cord and filter. Completed system on the workbench. I have been busy with work, tax returns and customers! I have very limited listening time. Everywhere I play back from Roon from this server has a renewed/expanded depth. There is more detail. In some cases there is a different edge to the music that I cannot define. In others the sound just floors me. I listened to BT "Untitled" album twice. There were multiple times where something comes thru that I have not heard before. Sitting in my office right now listening to the desktop system and the music is painted on the wall behind the computer. This weekend I will have a couple folks over and we will get some serious time on the system. thuandb 1 My Audio Systems Link to comment
bobfa Posted February 21, 2019 Author Share Posted February 21, 2019 6 minutes ago, bibo01 said: @bobfa I noticed that you have a Startech fc card. When you install it, could you please report on your experience with it. Is it detected automatically, etc...? Thanks That is on the planned list for the next few days. I want to do some listening to the server first. Just sitting in my office working now I hear things I am very happy with. I hope that AL will find it. Off to do some work to help pay for all of this! My Audio Systems Link to comment
bobfa Posted February 22, 2019 Author Share Posted February 22, 2019 24 minutes ago, rickca said: Is this just playing music now? Earlier you said the temps were 57-60C. Was that while Roon was scanning your music library? The higher temp with the pictures (IR) stuff above is with Roon doing background fingerprinting high speed on 4 cores. My Audio Systems Link to comment
Popular Post bobfa Posted February 27, 2019 Author Popular Post Share Posted February 27, 2019 Here are this week's successes/failures/issues Issues: My server is running Headless AL in RAM. I have had one hard crash that caused a reboot. About 24 hours after I had synced batch of music I had a crash problem. I was checking Qsync (Qnap to Mac) sync software. The Roon app died on my Mac and the server crashed. I think that this is just weird. The second problem was on Saturday; The server was "wonky" and unresponsive to the client. I rebooted the server again. Failures: On Sunday I spent some time, not much, testing my SFP network card. I was unable to get it to go online, and I did not allocate enough time to debug it. Fiber direct networking will have to wait for another day and an EtherRegen for incentive! Successes: On Saturday my friend Keith stopped by, and we did some headphone listening to help him with some new cans and to grab some time on the main system with the new server. We only had about two hours; Keith had not heard the system with the new server. The time was short and I did not take notes. I kept hearing things I wanted to go back and listen to again. Keith noted the instrument placements and more around some of the classical music. Today I did an A/B/C test. A Sonic Transporter with HDPLEX 200 B Xeon server running off of the Optane C Xeon server is running in RAM. This test is a bunch of stair running as the servers are in the basement and the system is on the first floor. I only have one power supply, so it is stairs/reboot/stairs--listen. Good for an old man that needs exercise in the winter!. I have three albums that I am using for this exercise. Zoe Keating. "Into the Trees" -- Tracks: Hello Night and The Last Bird Joe Ford "Colors in Sound" -- Tracks. Cosine and Colors in Sound Copland Appalachian Spring; Rodeo; Fanfare for the Common Man (TELARC) The whole album I switched systems six times. I have been listening to the Xeon system running in RAM for about a week now, so I started with the Sonic Transporter. Just listening to "Hello Night" there are parts of the track that are just missing you do not hear them. You do not hear the bow on the instrument. Listening to "Fanfare" the orchestra collapsed. Playing off of my new server running off of Optane the soundstage on "Fanfare" opens back up there is much more depth. The strings are better isolated. BUT WAIT THERE IS MORE! Then there is "C" running in RAM. The two Joe Ford Tracks leap off of the speakers. The detail explodes. On the Zoe Keating tracks, there is much more detail around the bow and the strings on the cello. I am very pleased with the listening results. I am going to be working harder to understand the issues with AL crashes, and I have to tune the BIOS some more. WHEW! This week I will be able to spend more time just listening to music around the house. Oscarhuge and austinpop 2 My Audio Systems Link to comment
bobfa Posted March 5, 2019 Author Share Posted March 5, 2019 52 minutes ago, lpost said: Excellent work. Where are you viewing CPU temp? AL menu doesn't report CPU temp properly on my system, it read high. However, the command line 'sensors' does report the correct temp. Best to run 'sensors-detect' first and accept the defaults. It can be tweaked/name adjusted but it's usually not necessary. See https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Lm_sensors On another note, I too had some strange crashes. I completely disabled and removed smb and nmb as I don't use them, preferring sftp. This cleaned up the core dumps caused by smb, see journalctl for log data. I also found that by slightly under clocking my RAM I no longer experience crashes. My ram modules are 'tested' for much higher refresh rate but I don't think this is necessary for audio use. And clearly, something between controller and ram modules was going wrong and crashing. Might be an area to explore in bios to reduce the speed. I too run a gigabit fiber network PCIe board instead of in-built Ethernet. My card has a Broadcom chip that AL already had a functioning driver compiled in the kernel. I can look up the precise model if it's helpful. I just set up the sensors stuff and the menu reads a couple degrees higher than sensors command does. I have not seen any crashes in a while and I have not looked at the logs. Just now I got a few of these: Mar 05 12:57:07 FairXeon kernel: bridge0: received packet on eno1 with own address as source address (addr:4a:89:1b:91:53:82, vlan:0) i am very interested in a FMC card that Just works. Please let me know. I did not have time to debug the one I have Startec.com. PEX1000SFP2. IF you have one that work I will use it. My motherboard has two ethernet interfaces and I wonder if I have to disable one to do the bridge right. I do need some help in this area. I am weak and learning My Audio Systems Link to comment
bobfa Posted March 5, 2019 Author Share Posted March 5, 2019 2 hours ago, LTG2010 said: If you are running a bridge then you would need to add your network card to the bridge. If for example your network card is at: eno1 you will need a file named : eno1.network in /etc/systemd/network its content should read: [Match] Name=eno1 [Network] Bridge=bridge0 If you type the command :networkctl you should get all the recognised interfaces. I can do that when I get the card. I would like it if the AL Menu works for this and I will test that. The idea is to avoid command line if you can!! Makes it simpler for everyone. My Audio Systems Link to comment
bobfa Posted March 9, 2019 Author Share Posted March 9, 2019 Paul, I have found several commercial music servers of interest. I have used several different kinds. 1. Mac Mini with and without the uptone audio power supply mod. 2. 27in iMac 3.Two different Small Green Computers Sonic Transporters 4. I am testing two custom built servers and two Operating Systems I have played with a couple of NAS devices as servers when I was using different server software. When I started using Roon as my playback system the NAS hardware did not make sense to me as they are mostly not as powerful as I would like. The rest of the system has improved so taking about server audio quality over time is a bit harder as I have not heard say the Mac Mini on the current DAC/AMP/Speakers cables. My Sonic Transporter i7 is a great sounding server. I improved the sound quality from the it by powering it with a linear power supply. My DIY server sounds better, but if you do not want to play with BIOS and OS settings this might not want to go this route. There are several other commercial servers that I personally find interesting. Innous and Wired4Sound are interesting. Aurender and Pink Faun are also very interesting. I am thinking about creating another thread about building servers in general. This thread is mostly about the specific server I built. There are several new threads on commercial servers in this section of the forum the_doc735 1 My Audio Systems Link to comment
bobfa Posted March 13, 2019 Author Share Posted March 13, 2019 This is the million dollar question. The Sonic Transporter line of computers are some of the best value in music servers out there. How they are built and what they are built from is not something I have any insight into. I have purchased two of them and they are a great value. I think there are several BIG reasons to look at them. First is the team there provides great service and support. Next the Operating System that they use is one of the most stable Linux variants I have used. Finally they provide a good set of applications that are supported by the system. I have conducted some testing with my Sonic Transporter that over time has kindled a “want” in my mind to improve sound quality. The very first tests I did were with two different power supplies. Using a compent linear power supply with the proper rating improved the sound quality in my system. Note that my ST have been Roon Servers and that is another variable in this mix of hardware and software. The second set of testing I did on the Sonic Transporter was to boot it up using AudioLinux. This again made an improvement in audio quality. I have been testing and following along with some of the research being done by others on the forum and I started following along with the NUC discussion. I built my i7 NUC a few weeks ago and set it up with AudioLinux. I have been using the NUC as a Roon bridge/endpoint. I have compared the NUC to my UltraRendu and the NUC sounds better. So you say “Alice how far down the rabbit hole do you want to go?” I researched a lot of hardware that folks have used over time and some hardware that have been talked about over time as working better. I built the server I built is a culmination of this research and some assumptions I have made. I “assume” that ECC RAM will be better. I have not tested that theory. There are a lot of other possible improvemtents I can make. That is a ways down the road for me. Now why does this sound better. I have two probable answers. First is the Operating System that is designed to improve sound. The second appears to be latency of the “system” as a whole. The higher power processor gets stuff done faster and improves sound quality. If you go read the “massive” thread there is a lot more reporting over there. We are on the edge of some discoveries here. None of this is absoute. I am now experimenting with two Linux OS variants for my hardware. I have a thread I started talking about them; AudioLinux and Euphony. valveboy 1 My Audio Systems Link to comment
bobfa Posted March 13, 2019 Author Share Posted March 13, 2019 10 minutes ago, valveboy said: very good points! whatis the TDP/VA of your server build please? If you read the first post you will see I am using a E2124 Xeon. Here is a link to that info: https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/products/processors/xeon/e-processors/e-2124g.html Hope that Intel has the info you are asking for. The TDP is 71W. valveboy 1 My Audio Systems Link to comment
bobfa Posted March 15, 2019 Author Share Posted March 15, 2019 Remember that I have said before I do not have all the answers. I have two servers in house right now When running AL the one with High TDP sounds better. The hardware is not the same so this is not a fair comparison. This is just a small illustration of the problem of defining what the problem is. valveboy 1 My Audio Systems Link to comment
bobfa Posted March 15, 2019 Author Share Posted March 15, 2019 I am using the HDPLEX H5 case that can support up to a 95W TDP CPU. I did some temperature measurements when Roon was processing the library with all cores turned up to full. The power supply got hotter than the computer! In normal operation the system . I have just move software systems under Roon to Euphony and reloaded the library again. CPU is about 38C running in Throttled mode. Let me clarify what I do. There are 5502 albums in my library and 4549 of them are 44K. I have only dabbled in room correction I am going to work on that in HW not SW. I do not upsample to my Yggdrasil. I have dabbled in DSD when my primary DAC did DSD. Now dabbling in getting the streaming chain working better I really doubt I will go back to that. While all of this is a lot of fun. I really want a way to compare what I have built with one of the higher end players like the Innous stuff. I do a lot of musing also. I will state one fact. I could never go back to a laptop USB out driving my system😎 I went into a store to listen to some uses speakers I was interested in. We setup the speakers on the high end system that was directly fed over USB with a Roon Nucleus. I can tell how the speakers sounded different but they were strangled by the streaming setup. I want to take my system over there..... Of course they cannot sell this support/sell gear like this. If they would get a Signature Rendu or something it would be a lot better. Waxing poetic... motberg 1 My Audio Systems Link to comment
bobfa Posted March 16, 2019 Author Share Posted March 16, 2019 Rebuild the USB stick from a new download. Update it to the latest everything. Try again..... I had that happen to be and just did a clean start. My Audio Systems Link to comment
bobfa Posted April 10, 2019 Author Share Posted April 10, 2019 NOTE I have just updated the intro post to this thread with a hardware change. I have removed the DC-ATX converter in the case and setup the server with the HDPLEX400 Supply. No listening report yet. Family watching TV.... sad face..... My Audio Systems Link to comment
bobfa Posted April 10, 2019 Author Share Posted April 10, 2019 1 minute ago, austinpop said: Sending sleep inducing thoughts here, so they go to bed and you can get back to the serious work of comparing the HDPlex 400 with the 200+DC-ATX converter! Send warm weather with it so it will not snow tomorrow, please! There are some huge advantages to having a headphone system. My Audio Systems Link to comment
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