Popular Post firedog Posted February 6, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted February 6, 2019 This one may beat the cables threads for the level (or lack thereof) of argument. Go to it, boys! intermediatic, gcoupe, BigAlMc and 2 others 3 1 1 Main listening (small home office): Main setup: Surge protector +>Isol-8 Mini sub Axis Power Strip/Isolation>QuietPC Low Noise Server>Roon (Audiolense DRC)>Stack Audio Link II>Kii Control>Kii Three (on their own electric circuit) >GIK Room Treatments. Secondary Path: Server with Audiolense RC>RPi4 or analog>Cayin iDAC6 MKII (tube mode) (XLR)>Kii Three . Bedroom: SBTouch to Cambridge Soundworks Desktop Setup. Living Room/Kitchen: Ropieee (RPi3b+ with touchscreen) + Schiit Modi3E to a pair of Morel Hogtalare. All absolute statements about audio are false Link to comment
EdmontonCanuck Posted February 6, 2019 Share Posted February 6, 2019 CAPS Pipeline with HDPlex Linear PSU running Win10 64 bit, AO 2.0, RoonServer, HQPlayer -> T+A DAC8 DSD -> Linear Tube Audio's MicroZOTL2 Headphone Amp with Mojo Audio's Illuminati Linear PSU -> Focal Utopia/Audeze LCD-3 Link to comment
Popular Post Krutsch Posted February 6, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted February 6, 2019 "...under this parallel configuration there was a dramatic sonic improvement." And a dramatic revenue improvement! Win-win! Solstice380, AudioDoctor, LowMidHigh and 5 others 4 4 "Play the volume as loud as you want - but don't touch my levels now. I got them set just the way I like 'em." Link to comment
rickca Posted February 6, 2019 Share Posted February 6, 2019 'powered by an LH Labs LPS-1' ??? Maybe you mean an Uptone Audio LPS-1? Pareto Audio AMD 7700 Server --> Berkeley Alpha USB --> Jeff Rowland Aeris --> Jeff Rowland 625 S2 --> Focal Utopia 3 Diablos with 2 x Focal Electra SW 1000 BE subs i7-6700K/Windows 10 --> EVGA Nu Audio Card --> Focal CMS50's Link to comment
Popular Post incus Posted February 6, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted February 6, 2019 I'll admit this review sounds more like a marketing piece however I am the owner of two such tricked-out versions of the SOtM switches and can attest that they have introduced very nice improvements into both my speaker and my headphone systems. I have them linked across a good distance via optical. There is increased ease to my listening experience as well as greater detail retrieval, which I attribute to less noise and better timing. I don't want to get into the very thorny subjects of clock phase noise and leakage currents (which probably belong in a that other thread), but I attribute the ease and detail bumps to those factors. I currently run a Small Green Computer Roon Core i7 feeding the first SOtM switch with a dCBL CAT 7 + iSOCat6 combo and then same cable combo to an sMS-200 Ultra that feeds a Qutest dac for two channel. Optical leads to the next switch which feeds another sMS-200 Ultra via the same cable combo which feeds a Holo Spring II KTE for headphones. I formerly had Aqvox switches - both versions - as well as "clock tapped" TP-Llink switches provided as part of the "switch mod" from Crux Audio. The SOtM switch tops them both by a good margin. Outside of the addition of the Spring Dac, the switches are the best upgrade in my digital chain yet. Looking forward to the etherRegen to see it can top this. Superdad, Elberoth and beautiful music 1 1 1 Link to comment
Advieira Posted February 6, 2019 Share Posted February 6, 2019 If you need to have two unities to get the best SQ, there was a little project failure. Solstice380 1 Link to comment
AudioDoctor Posted February 6, 2019 Share Posted February 6, 2019 Buy two of them and it will sound better! yes, double the Ka-Ching! intermediatic 1 No electron left behind. Link to comment
Popular Post plissken Posted February 7, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted February 7, 2019 That's not a parallel setup. It's serial. I've done ad-hoc runs were we need to get to something 800 feet away and using two switches to do it where fiber wasn't an option. The frames get rebuilt 100% from the ground up as the go from port to port. So with the play back machine being Windows 10 but I don't see the playback software other than Tidal or Qobuz I'll mention this: When I went out to Denver years ago to a roughly $50,000 setup, the participant, using Tidal, couldn't tell when the customer $1500 12 cable or the 100 foot $14 cable was in use. Another tidbit: They didn't even know they were listening to entire tracks from Tidal where I removed the cable 30 seconds in and let entire 5 to 11 minute tracks play. I call shenanigans on this. LowMidHigh, TAV, eternaloptimist and 2 others 1 4 Link to comment
Popular Post Yo-yo Posted February 7, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted February 7, 2019 I’d like to see more hard data on this device and less subjective testing. There is no reason a switch transferring a file would effect another devices audio output. In the future I would suggest using audio recording to verify the results and or blind a-b tests. any device that claims what it claims and costs what it costs should make measurable differences. eternaloptimist, jtwrace and LowMidHigh 1 2 Link to comment
jtwrace Posted February 7, 2019 Share Posted February 7, 2019 3 minutes ago, Yo-yo said: I’d like to see more hard data on this device and less subjective testing. There is no reason a switch transferring a file would effect another devices audio output. In the future I would suggest using audio recording to verify the results and or blind a-b tests. any device that claims what it claims and costs what it costs should make measurable differences. Lots of foolery there and any company that makes such a device. Many audiophiles are very gullible. W10 NUC i7 (Gen 10) > Roon (Audiolense FIR) > Motu UltraLite mk5 > (4) Hypex NCore NC502MP > JBL M2 Master Reference +4 subs Watch my Podcast https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXMw_bZWBMtRWNJQfTJ38kA/videos Link to comment
LowMidHigh Posted February 7, 2019 Share Posted February 7, 2019 To me, the fact that SOtM recommends using their ultra expensive cat6 cable says it all: SOtM is a respectable member of the snake oil industry. For anyone arguing to the advantage of "audio-grade" catN cables: no existing measurements or AB/X support those preposterous claims. Sorry. The switch is built around their $350 filter (find referernce to it on the net). So now they recommend we also purchase it as well. Hell, get 2 switches and 2 filters for $4,100. I think I'll wait for the new Uptone switch...Their aim is to block all upstream noise. $600 with a clock and 10Mz bnc interface. Regrettably, both companies don't publish measurements, but the Korean are egregious with thier marketing fluff (all in broken English) and milk-the-stupid-cow prices. nekoaoyama and BigAlMc 1 1 Stereo [Genelec 1032C x 2 + 7360 x 2] <== [MC3+USB x 3 <-- REF10 SE120] <== [AERIS G2] <== [EtherRegen x 3] Chain switchable to [Genelec 8331 x 2 + 7350] Surround [Genelec 1032C x 3 + 8431 x 2 + 7360 x 2] <== [MiniDSP U-DIO8] <== [Mac Mini] Link to comment
Popular Post The Computer Audiophile Posted February 7, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted February 7, 2019 5 minutes ago, LowMidHigh said: but the Korean are egregious with thier marketing fluff (all in broken English) and milk-the-stupid-cow prices. I don't believe this has anything to do with the product and anything to do with anything. Their native language and country of origin don't matter in the least. Solstice380, asindc, Doak and 5 others 4 1 3 Founder of Audiophile Style | My Audio Systems Link to comment
Ralf11 Posted February 7, 2019 Share Posted February 7, 2019 maybe Xenophobia Audio sells them AudioDoctor 1 Link to comment
Ralf11 Posted February 7, 2019 Share Posted February 7, 2019 "active noise canceller for clock" is an interesting idea LowMidHigh 1 Link to comment
LowMidHigh Posted February 7, 2019 Share Posted February 7, 2019 2 minutes ago, The Computer Audiophile said: I don't believe this has anything to do with the product and anything to do with anything. Their native language and country of origin don't matter in the least. It shows a lot a about the company's ethos when it charges top dollars for its products and then chooses to save on a professional translator. nekoaoyama and asindc 2 Stereo [Genelec 1032C x 2 + 7360 x 2] <== [MC3+USB x 3 <-- REF10 SE120] <== [AERIS G2] <== [EtherRegen x 3] Chain switchable to [Genelec 8331 x 2 + 7350] Surround [Genelec 1032C x 3 + 8431 x 2 + 7360 x 2] <== [MiniDSP U-DIO8] <== [Mac Mini] Link to comment
The Computer Audiophile Posted February 7, 2019 Share Posted February 7, 2019 1 minute ago, LowMidHigh said: It shows a lot a about the company's ethos when it charges top dollars for its products and then chooses to save on a professional translator. I disagree. Founder of Audiophile Style | My Audio Systems Link to comment
LowMidHigh Posted February 7, 2019 Share Posted February 7, 2019 4 minutes ago, The Computer Audiophile said: I disagree. Well, I take comfort that at least those myrad of companies that spent a fortune on localization agree with me. nekoaoyama 1 Stereo [Genelec 1032C x 2 + 7360 x 2] <== [MC3+USB x 3 <-- REF10 SE120] <== [AERIS G2] <== [EtherRegen x 3] Chain switchable to [Genelec 8331 x 2 + 7350] Surround [Genelec 1032C x 3 + 8431 x 2 + 7360 x 2] <== [MiniDSP U-DIO8] <== [Mac Mini] Link to comment
Popular Post The Computer Audiophile Posted February 7, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted February 7, 2019 Just now, LowMidHigh said: Well, I take comfort that at least those myrad of companies that spent a fortune on localization agree with me. If that makes sense to you, then OK. My friend works for Microsoft and hires translators for many files that go into the OS. It costs $7 per word. Based on the high cost, I'd say it isn't a good use of funds for an audio company. If people can't understand a manual that's a different story. If people read incorrect grammar like your "charges top dollars" phrase but can still understand the manual they will read once and throw away, then I'd say mission accomplished. Resources better spent on other things. shahed99 and tims 2 Founder of Audiophile Style | My Audio Systems Link to comment
Popular Post rickca Posted February 7, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted February 7, 2019 3 minutes ago, The Computer Audiophile said: It costs $7 per word. Pretty lucrative! You should hear my Korean. The Computer Audiophile and Sonic77 2 Pareto Audio AMD 7700 Server --> Berkeley Alpha USB --> Jeff Rowland Aeris --> Jeff Rowland 625 S2 --> Focal Utopia 3 Diablos with 2 x Focal Electra SW 1000 BE subs i7-6700K/Windows 10 --> EVGA Nu Audio Card --> Focal CMS50's Link to comment
AudioDoctor Posted February 7, 2019 Share Posted February 7, 2019 I know someone who's entire living is translating Japanese. She does well too. No electron left behind. Link to comment
LowMidHigh Posted February 7, 2019 Share Posted February 7, 2019 5 minutes ago, The Computer Audiophile said: If that makes sense to you, then OK. My friend works for Microsoft and hires translators for many files that go into the OS. It costs $7 per word. Based on the high cost, I'd say it isn't a good use of funds for an audio company. If people can't understand a manual that's a different story. If people read incorrect grammar like your "charges top dollars" phrase but can still understand the manual they will read once and throw away, then I'd say mission accomplished. Resources better spent on other things. Kind of you to scan my phone-typed text for grammar errors. There's an opening in the Grammer & Typo police if you're so inclined. "My friend works for Microsoft and..." Is that a serious argument or a tongue-in-cheek joke? nekoaoyama 1 Stereo [Genelec 1032C x 2 + 7360 x 2] <== [MC3+USB x 3 <-- REF10 SE120] <== [AERIS G2] <== [EtherRegen x 3] Chain switchable to [Genelec 8331 x 2 + 7350] Surround [Genelec 1032C x 3 + 8431 x 2 + 7360 x 2] <== [MiniDSP U-DIO8] <== [Mac Mini] Link to comment
The Computer Audiophile Posted February 7, 2019 Share Posted February 7, 2019 17 minutes ago, LowMidHigh said: Kind of you to scan my phone-typed text for grammar errors. There's an opening in the Grammer & Typo police if you're so inclined. "My friend works for Microsoft and..." Is that a serious argument or a tongue-in-cheek joke? Not an argument just stating facts that also back up your belief that translation is spendy. Except I don’t believe it is a good or necessary use of funds in most cases for HiFi companies. If one’s customers are quick to judge foreigners on their English skills and decision to put resources in areas other than translation, then I guess it may be worth it. For 99% of the world, it doesn’t matter. Elberoth 1 Founder of Audiophile Style | My Audio Systems Link to comment
LowMidHigh Posted February 7, 2019 Share Posted February 7, 2019 1 minute ago, The Computer Audiophile said: Not an argument just stating facts that also back up your belief that translation is spendy. Except I don’t believe it is a good or necessary use of funds in most cases for HiFi companies. If one’s customers are quick to judge foreigners on their English skills and decision to put resources in areas other than translation, then I guess it may be worth it. For 99% of the world, it doesn’t matter. It's sort of descending, but you're so off that I feel a reply is warranted. (1) SOtM doesn't need a translator. It needs an editor, since the text is in already in English. Editing is by far less costly than translation. (2) Except I don’t believe it is a good or necessary use of funds in most cases for HiFi companies. Auralic, Lumin, Aurunder and so many others polish thier text. Fortunately, not only do they disagree with you on the importance of solid presentation, but they also don't find the cost prohibitive. (3) For 99% of the world, it doesn’t matter. Oh, that's quite presumptuous. Do you really know how 99% of the world thinks? More to the point, presentation appears to be vital for most businesses, and SOtM is the exception here. You may accept it, but others may find it unprofessional, cheapt and even contemptuous. Stereo [Genelec 1032C x 2 + 7360 x 2] <== [MC3+USB x 3 <-- REF10 SE120] <== [AERIS G2] <== [EtherRegen x 3] Chain switchable to [Genelec 8331 x 2 + 7350] Surround [Genelec 1032C x 3 + 8431 x 2 + 7360 x 2] <== [MiniDSP U-DIO8] <== [Mac Mini] Link to comment
The Computer Audiophile Posted February 7, 2019 Share Posted February 7, 2019 2 minutes ago, LowMidHigh said: Auralic, Lumin, Aurunder I’m looking at 6 products sitting in front of me from these companies. None of them have polished their text with respect to the products. mav52 1 Founder of Audiophile Style | My Audio Systems Link to comment
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