sjoc2000 Posted April 1, 2013 Share Posted April 1, 2013 My understanding is that the volume trim is supposed to work also in bypass mode since firmware version 1.63. I have firmware v1.71 installed, and in bypass mode the volume trim seems to have no effect. Am I wrong? No firedog, experiencing the same here after I read your post. In dig, anal, bypass modes I cannot tell the difference between a vol. trim setting of "disable" and "14". Maybe a call to Mytek is in order... Jim PC (J River-Jplay) > USB > Mytek 192 - DSD > XLR > Adcom GFP-750 Pre > XLR > Emotiva XPA-5 > Snell C/V's (bi-amped) / Klipsch Sub <100 Hz Link to comment
Esprit Posted April 1, 2013 Share Posted April 1, 2013 Having arrived at "vol Ctrl" Hi Jim, I'm talkin about a different issue: I nave NO Volume bypass (and no checkbox) in the USBPAL CPL Page #19, Mytek Manual ver. 1.7.1 / October 2012 http://mytekdigital.com/support_docs/Stereo192-DSD_DAC_manual_v1.7.1.pdf Link to comment
ted_b Posted April 1, 2013 Share Posted April 1, 2013 Hi Jim, I'm talkin about a different issue: I nave NO Volume bypass (and no checkbox) in the USBPAL CPL Page #19, Mytek Manual ver. 1.7.1 / October 2012 http://mytekdigital.com/support_docs/Stereo192-DSD_DAC_manual_v1.7.1.pdf Esprit, I don;t think we need to be concerned with that; mixer volume bypass is the default. Any "bypass" we discuss is the Mytek front panel bypass. "We're all bozos on this bus"....F.T. My JRIver tutorial videos Actual JRIver tutorial MP4 video links My eleven yr old SACD Ripping Guide for PS3 (needs updating but still works) US Technical Advisor, NativeDSD.com Link to comment
firedog Posted April 1, 2013 Share Posted April 1, 2013 Yesterday I tried the USB (normally I use Firewire).I opened Mytek_Digital_CPL, in the manual is written on page 19: "NOTE!" VOLUME BYPASS "must be checked to guarantee Bit Transparency Ensuring proper DSD playback" The problem is that I do NOT have Volume Bypass in my panel, so I can not select it. Esprit- Are you using a MAC? That is only for USB on a MAC. In Windows the checkbox doesn't exist. Main listening (small home office): Main setup: Surge protector +>Isol-8 Mini sub Axis Power Strip/Isolation>QuietPC Low Noise Server>Roon (Audiolense DRC)>Stack Audio Link II>Kii Control>Kii Three (on their own electric circuit) >GIK Room Treatments. Secondary Path: Server with Audiolense RC>RPi4 or analog>Cayin iDAC6 MKII (tube mode) (XLR)>Kii Three . Bedroom: SBTouch to Cambridge Soundworks Desktop Setup. Living Room/Kitchen: Ropieee (RPi3b+ with touchscreen) + Schiit Modi3E to a pair of Morel Hogtalare. All absolute statements about audio are false Link to comment
ted_b Posted April 1, 2013 Share Posted April 1, 2013 Esprit- Are you using a MAC? That is only for USB on a MAC. In Windows the checkbox doesn't exist. Not true, dog. Yes indeed it does (Win 1.34.10 driver on CAPS V2+)..but I've never seen it unchecked unless manually. "We're all bozos on this bus"....F.T. My JRIver tutorial videos Actual JRIver tutorial MP4 video links My eleven yr old SACD Ripping Guide for PS3 (needs updating but still works) US Technical Advisor, NativeDSD.com Link to comment
sjoc2000 Posted April 1, 2013 Share Posted April 1, 2013 Not true, dog. Yes indeed it does (Win 1.34.10 driver on CAPS V2+)..but I've never seen it unchecked unless manually. [ATTACH=CONFIG]4978[/ATTACH] It is here as well, win 7 with an Asus pc, usb. Just a thought Espirit, and I don't mean to insult you intelligence, but did you uninstall the firewire drivers before installing usb drivers? Jim PC (J River-Jplay) > USB > Mytek 192 - DSD > XLR > Adcom GFP-750 Pre > XLR > Emotiva XPA-5 > Snell C/V's (bi-amped) / Klipsch Sub <100 Hz Link to comment
firedog Posted April 1, 2013 Share Posted April 1, 2013 Not true, dog. Yes indeed it does (Win 1.34.10 driver on CAPS V2+)..but I've never seen it unchecked unless manually. [ATTACH=CONFIG]4978[/ATTACH] Not arguing with you Ted, but the image Esprit pulled is from the MAC instructions, and the instructions for the Windows USB driver DON'T include an instruction to check the box you noted; in fact that Panel as you captured it doesn't appear in the Windows installation instructions - Probably b/c it is checked automatically. Just trying to make sure Esprit wasn't accidentally looking at the wrong instructions - we've all done that at some time, I'm sure. Main listening (small home office): Main setup: Surge protector +>Isol-8 Mini sub Axis Power Strip/Isolation>QuietPC Low Noise Server>Roon (Audiolense DRC)>Stack Audio Link II>Kii Control>Kii Three (on their own electric circuit) >GIK Room Treatments. Secondary Path: Server with Audiolense RC>RPi4 or analog>Cayin iDAC6 MKII (tube mode) (XLR)>Kii Three . Bedroom: SBTouch to Cambridge Soundworks Desktop Setup. Living Room/Kitchen: Ropieee (RPi3b+ with touchscreen) + Schiit Modi3E to a pair of Morel Hogtalare. All absolute statements about audio are false Link to comment
Esprit Posted April 1, 2013 Share Posted April 1, 2013 Esprit- Are you using a MAC? That is only for USB on a MAC. In Windows the checkbox doesn't exist.In the Mac the checkbox doesn't exist. It exist only in the manual I've posted page #19 of the manual. I RTFM, i read about a warning. Is my USBPAL CPL newer and the option/checkbox has been deleted? Link to comment
ted_b Posted April 1, 2013 Share Posted April 1, 2013 Not arguing with you Ted, Well, you are! You specifically said "In Windows the checkbox doesn't exist". There is no misinterpretation of that, and I wasn't aware you were trying to make another point, so my only recourse was to tell you IT DOES. Now that I know you meant it is not about the checkbox but about the MAC instructions I will move on. Esprit, the checkbox is there on every driver I've ever used in Mytek Windows environment, I can't check Mac right now..but know, of course, that if the driver doesn't see the device then you can't see the device info. Personally I think it is much ado about nothing. "We're all bozos on this bus"....F.T. My JRIver tutorial videos Actual JRIver tutorial MP4 video links My eleven yr old SACD Ripping Guide for PS3 (needs updating but still works) US Technical Advisor, NativeDSD.com Link to comment
sjoc2000 Posted April 1, 2013 Share Posted April 1, 2013 In the Mac the checkbox doesn't exist. It exist only in the manual I've posted page #19 of the manual. I RTFM, i read about a warning. Is my USBPAL CPL newer and the option/checkbox has been deleted? Espirit, firedog deserves some chocolate chip cookies. :0) PC (J River-Jplay) > USB > Mytek 192 - DSD > XLR > Adcom GFP-750 Pre > XLR > Emotiva XPA-5 > Snell C/V's (bi-amped) / Klipsch Sub <100 Hz Link to comment
Esprit Posted April 1, 2013 Share Posted April 1, 2013 Ted, I see the device (USB), I use the device (USB), I haven't the checkbox. This is my CPL So, I'm asking About: "I think it is much ado about nothing." I've only read this (page #19): NOTE! “VOLUME BYPASS” must be checked to guarantee Bit Transparency ensuring proper DSD playback & WARNING! • Make sure to check VOLUME BYPASS to ensure proper operation of DSD playback Link to comment
Esprit Posted April 1, 2013 Share Posted April 1, 2013 In the Mac the checkbox doesn't exist. In MY CPL on the Mac.I can not say anything about the other Mac users and their CPL. Link to comment
petecare Posted April 2, 2013 Share Posted April 2, 2013 Hi Esprit, Did you had tested the interface USB SPDIF Hiface 2 ? (for having integer mode) Link to comment
Esprit Posted April 2, 2013 Share Posted April 2, 2013 I'm doing in this days. I've also solved the problem of checkbox after installing a newer version of CPL (from Adam). Link to comment
firedog Posted April 2, 2013 Share Posted April 2, 2013 Got an official reply from Mytek that it doesn't work in bypass mode and that there are no plans to make it do so. Main listening (small home office): Main setup: Surge protector +>Isol-8 Mini sub Axis Power Strip/Isolation>QuietPC Low Noise Server>Roon (Audiolense DRC)>Stack Audio Link II>Kii Control>Kii Three (on their own electric circuit) >GIK Room Treatments. Secondary Path: Server with Audiolense RC>RPi4 or analog>Cayin iDAC6 MKII (tube mode) (XLR)>Kii Three . Bedroom: SBTouch to Cambridge Soundworks Desktop Setup. Living Room/Kitchen: Ropieee (RPi3b+ with touchscreen) + Schiit Modi3E to a pair of Morel Hogtalare. All absolute statements about audio are false Link to comment
mav52 Posted April 2, 2013 Share Posted April 2, 2013 Well, you are! You specifically said "In Windows the checkbox doesn't exist". There is no misinterpretation of that, and I wasn't aware you were trying to make another point, so my only recourse was to tell you IT DOES. Now that I know you meant it is not about the checkbox but about the MAC instructions I will move on. Esprit, the checkbox is there on every driver I've ever used in Mytek Windows environment, I can't check Mac right now..but know, of course, that if the driver doesn't see the device then you can't see the device info. Personally I think it is much ado about nothing. So where does this reside in windows 7-64. Is it apart of windows itself or is it contained with the downloaded drivers from Mytek ? The Truth Is Out There Link to comment
ted_b Posted April 2, 2013 Share Posted April 2, 2013 So where does this reside in windows 7-64. Is it apart of windows itself or is it contained with the downloaded drivers from Mytek ? The screenshots are from the Windows Mytek (rigisystems USBPAL) driver console. "We're all bozos on this bus"....F.T. My JRIver tutorial videos Actual JRIver tutorial MP4 video links My eleven yr old SACD Ripping Guide for PS3 (needs updating but still works) US Technical Advisor, NativeDSD.com Link to comment
mav52 Posted April 2, 2013 Share Posted April 2, 2013 The screenshots are from the Windows Mytek (rigisystems USBPAL) driver console. thank you ted The Truth Is Out There Link to comment
Caligari Posted April 4, 2013 Share Posted April 4, 2013 Been a YEAR since new drivers. Have they ABANDONED support? Link to comment
ted_b Posted April 4, 2013 Share Posted April 4, 2013 Been a YEAR since new drivers. Have they ABANDONED support? I think constructive detailed criticism is more effective...i.e what platform do you need the drivers for? Windows? They will send you 1.34.10 if you ask. "We're all bozos on this bus"....F.T. My JRIver tutorial videos Actual JRIver tutorial MP4 video links My eleven yr old SACD Ripping Guide for PS3 (needs updating but still works) US Technical Advisor, NativeDSD.com Link to comment
PaulF Posted April 4, 2013 Share Posted April 4, 2013 What I know is that last Oct I was told there would be new firmware in Nov that would allow playback of 2x DSD from a Mac via Firewire. We're six months past that. I mailed them 3-4 weeks ago asking for a status on this and got no response. Link to comment
Caligari Posted April 4, 2013 Share Posted April 4, 2013 The LACK of support is LUDICROUS. Link to comment
labjr Posted April 4, 2013 Share Posted April 4, 2013 Probably used to Pro-audio guys. They had no idea what they were in for with the audiophile market. Link to comment
PaulF Posted April 4, 2013 Share Posted April 4, 2013 Probably used to Pro-audio guys. They had no idea what they were in for with the audiophile market. Yes; what a bunch of pompous prima donnas we are. Link to comment
tipunch Posted April 6, 2013 Share Posted April 6, 2013 Has anybody tried integrated mode with USB1.1/Mytek and Audirvana+. Is the sound better than only the direct mode? Link to comment
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