sebna Posted February 9, 2013 Share Posted February 9, 2013 Hi Guys, My first post here so hello every one. I just bought Mytek waiting for delivery ATM. I am going to use it with PC - are there any differences in SQ between USB and FW on this platform? I am asking as I have to buy either of cables and would prefer to chose right one first time around. BTW I am reading the thread slowly but it is huge. Thanks Link to comment
firedog Posted February 9, 2013 Share Posted February 9, 2013 Hi Guys, My first post here so hello every one. I just bought Mytek waiting for delivery ATM. I am going to use it with PC - are there any differences in SQ between USB and FW on this platform? I am asking as I have to buy either of cables and would prefer to chose right one first time around. BTW I am reading the thread slowly but it is huge. Thanks most think FW sounds better;but YMMV if you have a good usb setup likethe SOTM card Main listening (small home office): Main setup: Surge protector +>Isol-8 Mini sub Axis Power Strip/Isolation>QuietPC Low Noise Server>Roon (Audiolense DRC)>Stack Audio Link II>Kii Control>Kii Three (on their own electric circuit) >GIK Room Treatments. Secondary Path: Server with Audiolense RC>RPi4 or analog>Cayin iDAC6 MKII (tube mode) (XLR)>Kii Three . Bedroom: SBTouch to Cambridge Soundworks Desktop Setup. Living Room/Kitchen: Ropieee (RPi3b+ with touchscreen) + Schiit Modi3E to a pair of Morel Hogtalare. All absolute statements about audio are false Link to comment
sebna Posted February 9, 2013 Share Posted February 9, 2013 Thanks for replay - are you connecting through USB or FW and which one you prefer - also could you quickly summarize the difference between the connectors in terms of sound signature SQ? hmm and does anybody know what is the impedance of HP out? Also is the HP AMP doing good job with low impedance high sensitive HPs? Anybody can comment on alleged micro power cuts reported by French people? Thanks Link to comment
sebna Posted February 10, 2013 Share Posted February 10, 2013 Ok I read some more and looks like I will go with FW connection. What FW interconnect can you recommend me that works well in your opinion with Mytek for PC use? Also my two questions still stand as about the HP out impedance and problems reported by French people? Thanks Link to comment
vinylbuck Posted February 10, 2013 Share Posted February 10, 2013 An update here: I got in touch with Cookie, and her support was phenomenal. I got my unit from Cookie at Blue Coast Records. I also did find the service she provided phenomenal. We seldom receive top notch service like this. As I requested they did a 200 hours burn-in and made sure everything was running smoothly. They also sent the unit very well packed with the carrier of my choice. I felt like I was treated by a very good friend. Link to comment
Synfreak Posted February 10, 2013 Share Posted February 10, 2013 Ok I read some more and looks like I will go with FW connection. What FW interconnect can you recommend me that works well in your opinion with Mytek for PC use? This will depend on what firewire chipset is being used. I got only bad results while using firewire (a lot of CPU consumption, quite unstable connection). I think that firewire on a windows based machine isn't a good choice, at least most of the time, but YMMV ... But you will need the firewire connection in anyway, as firmware updates can't be done using USB. Esoterc SA-60 / Foobar2000 -> Mytek Stereo 192 DSD / Audio-GD NFB 28.38 -> MEG RL922K / AKG K500 / AKG K1000 / Audioquest Nighthawk / OPPO PM-2 / Sennheiser HD800 / Sennheiser Surrounder / Sony MA900 / STAX SR-303+SRM-323II Link to comment
sebna Posted February 10, 2013 Share Posted February 10, 2013 Hi, My FW is based on VIA VT6308P PCI IEEE-1394 FireWire controller it is 400mbit one on Intel P45 mother board. Any idea if it is any good? Thanks, seb Link to comment
Miska Posted February 10, 2013 Share Posted February 10, 2013 My FW is based on VIA VT6308P PCI IEEE-1394 FireWire controller it is 400mbit one on Intel P45 mother board. I think it should work, as it is listed as compatible on the DICE FW-controller list... Signalyst - Developer of HQPlayer Pulse & Fidelity - Software Defined Amplifiers Link to comment
sebna Posted February 10, 2013 Share Posted February 10, 2013 Can anybody recommend me some FW and USB IC that goes well with Mytek I think it should work, as it is listed as compatible on the DICE FW-controller list... Thanks Miska ! Link to comment
sebna Posted February 10, 2013 Share Posted February 10, 2013 Does anybody know how many hardware revisions there was of Maytek and what is the most recent one and when it was released? Also maybe what were the changes along the way? Link to comment
sebna Posted February 11, 2013 Share Posted February 11, 2013 Read the thread I am doing it but it is a long one Anyway I already got most of the answers I was looking for but still wondering what USB / FW ICs would you recommend for Mytek. I have a reward for the one who will share his experience on this one. Link to comment
packux Posted February 11, 2013 Share Posted February 11, 2013 I am doing it but it is a long one Anyway I already got most of the answers I was looking for but still wondering what USB / FW ICs would you recommend for Mytek. I have a reward for the one who will share his experience on this one. In terms of FW connectivity in Win7 64 bit, I am using this card from Sonnet along with this cable from Oyaide. Both are reasonably priced if you look a bit around. Link to comment
ted_b Posted February 11, 2013 Share Posted February 11, 2013 I am doing it but it is a long one Anyway I already got most of the answers I was looking for but still wondering what USB / FW ICs would you recommend for Mytek. I have a reward for the one who will share his experience on this one. No reward needed. I have posted numerous times about the wonderful GoldX 24k firewire cables ($17). If you have fw800 then Granite Digital ($25) has a great firewire cable. The Oyen at $100 is good too. They are all much better than generic. As far as USB cables, people are all over the place with these. Mine is a more expensive $400 Wireworld Platinum Starlight. I know of nothing in the sub-$100 that people are recommending, but try DH Labs (their .75M on my iFi power supply is nice), and iFi will sell theirs in the next 30 days ($50-75). "We're all bozos on this bus"....F.T. My JRIver tutorial videos Actual JRIver tutorial MP4 video links My eleven yr old SACD Ripping Guide for PS3 (needs updating but still works) US Technical Advisor, NativeDSD.com Link to comment
sebna Posted February 11, 2013 Share Posted February 11, 2013 Thanks guys for suggestions. My budget is somehow limited at this moment even tough my imagination is not (probably you know thet way ) I was thinking about getting Audiquest Forest FW IC (but will look at both suggestions from other posts) and Wireworld Starlight (the red one) as people seem to like it and it does not rob the bank. Now I read something about that IC quality does not matter that much in case of USB / FW if the connection is asymmetrical which is the case for Mytek DAC. I also read that Mytek is quite sensitive to AC quality and because that I am looking to get some upgraded power cord. Again it will be budget solution as I spent all my project money on the DAC already. I was thinking about Wireworld Startus 5, I think it is called. Any views on the above? Any more suggestions? The Reward: Free and completely legal source of 24/96 - 24/196 and DSD files ! Have a nice downloading of aprox 30gb of music High Resolution Music DOWNLOAD services .:. FLAC in free TEST BENCH Cheers Link to comment
ted_b Posted February 11, 2013 Share Posted February 11, 2013 Sebna, Yes, the Mytek loves good power cables. if your system is on the neutral to analytical side a nice warmer Cardas or JPS Labs would be a good fit. Find used on Audiogon. Yes, we use the 2L test bench a lot around here. I just used it yesterday to download huge DXD multichannel files (24/352.8k x 6) to test bandwidth on my CAPS V2+ going to the stacked Myteks (5.1 thread), while doing downsampling to 5.1 24/176k. They are huge, bugger than DSF multichannel, and causes my lowly CAPS V2+ to buffer like crazy. . Their menu of formats and sample rates is very nice; one of the only places to find good DXD to download (for those with 352k capable DACs). "We're all bozos on this bus"....F.T. My JRIver tutorial videos Actual JRIver tutorial MP4 video links My eleven yr old SACD Ripping Guide for PS3 (needs updating but still works) US Technical Advisor, NativeDSD.com Link to comment
sebna Posted February 11, 2013 Share Posted February 11, 2013 I will have for testing in home in few weeks 32/3xx capable DAC and I already downloaded all the available material from that site (100mbit connection ) I am starting to wonder if it would not be more future proof to go for something capable of such high resolutions. How much of 24/3xx material there is? Thanks for the hint about Audiogon forums will check it out also the cables which you recommended. My system is Mytek + Denon's D7100 and a lot of FLAC material of which some is hi-def. D7100 are very coloured HPs so probably I will be looking to get as neutral cables as possible. Any suggestions going this direction? Thanks Link to comment
ted_b Posted February 11, 2013 Share Posted February 11, 2013 Yes, call Greg at MG Audio Design. Best valued cables in the world, and real world pricing. I wrote a review about them, then bought the whole loom. But he has no power cords yet. For those i recommend Mark Coles at Sablon (or my used ideas above). Although there is not a lot of 24/3xx material, to me the better question is: do any of the 24/3xx DACs sound better to you in redbook, DSD, etc. That's where you'll be using them 99% of the time anyway. "We're all bozos on this bus"....F.T. My JRIver tutorial videos Actual JRIver tutorial MP4 video links My eleven yr old SACD Ripping Guide for PS3 (needs updating but still works) US Technical Advisor, NativeDSD.com Link to comment
sebna Posted February 11, 2013 Share Posted February 11, 2013 And how about conditioners - ^^ I know this is not thread for it but on the other hand my only equipment relevant is DAC and because it is Mytek I can as well ask about what works well with it in this department? Can you recommend me any quality conditioners? Link to comment
mtan002 Posted February 11, 2013 Share Posted February 11, 2013 I am using an old PS Audio UPC 200. My valve amp and the 2 DACs are drawing power thru it. They all sound better to my ears with the UPC 200. I also use non-stock power cables. PowerConditioning: PS Audio UPC-200; Hdplex 300W Server: Windows 2019-CORE+AO3+Jriver24/HQPlayer Source: Mytek Brooklyn Amp: Audio-GD C501, AVA Set 120 Speakers: Spendor SP2, Tannoy Saturn S10 Desktop: W10+Topping D90+Stax SRS3100 Link to comment
sebna Posted February 12, 2013 Share Posted February 12, 2013 Burn-in Is it enough to let it plugged in to the wall and turned constantly on as burn-in or should music be playing through it? How did you do it guys? I have this Tara burn-in flac which is cascading swipes through frequencies and other pink and rainbow colors noises What methods did you use? Thanks Link to comment
ted_b Posted February 12, 2013 Share Posted February 12, 2013 Music/tones must be played through it, not just powered on. I just played music and enjoyed. But left it in repeat 24/7 (amps don't need to be on). Sweeps are ok (XLO burn in track 9 is my fave cuz it contains more than sweeps) but good ole music is better. "We're all bozos on this bus"....F.T. My JRIver tutorial videos Actual JRIver tutorial MP4 video links My eleven yr old SACD Ripping Guide for PS3 (needs updating but still works) US Technical Advisor, NativeDSD.com Link to comment
sebna Posted February 12, 2013 Share Posted February 12, 2013 BTW how good is the HP out amp in compare to dedicated AMPs? And overall how good it is? Link to comment
junker Posted February 14, 2013 Share Posted February 14, 2013 Both the Kimber Cu and Ag are great. Silver plated connectors that are both crimped and soldered. Definitely well made. The Kimber Cu is 6.1% silver and is a great value in my opinion. I'm selling the almost new 1m Kimber Cu for $60 shipped. http://www.computeraudiophile.com/f20-buy-and-sell-audio-and-computer-components-no-dealers/fs-1-0m-kimber-usb-b-bus-cu-14678/ Kimber Kable - B BUS Cu The WireWorld Silver Starlight look very nice as well, and for a decent price. A Digital Audio Converter connected to my Home Computer taking me into the Future Link to comment
packux Posted February 19, 2013 Share Posted February 19, 2013 Hi Adam. Any news on that? Also, a changelist would be greatly appreciated. Thanks already. Hi Adam, any news on this 1.7.2 firmware? It seems things started to get awfully quite in this thread for some time now.... Link to comment
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