Lee Scoggins Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 What ethernet cables have members had success with? Are there sound quality differences between Cat 5, Cat 6, and Cat 7 cables? Is there a good value ethernet cable? wgscott 1 Link to comment
Popular Post PeterSt Posted January 30, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted January 30, 2019 When you whip 10ft of the Cat5, there's a flubberish sound. Doing the same with a Cat6, the sound becomes more firm, though plastic. Cat7 is full of metal. Lee Scoggins, Ralf11, jabbr and 1 other 4 Lush^3-e Lush^2 Blaxius^2.5 Ethernet^3 HDMI^2 XLR^2 XXHighEnd (developer) Phasure NOS1 24/768 Async USB DAC (manufacturer) Phasure Mach III Audio PC with Linear PSU (manufacturer) Orelino & Orelo MKII Speakers (designer/supplier) Link to comment
Popular Post Hugo9000 Posted January 30, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted January 30, 2019 3 minutes ago, PeterSt said: When you whip 10ft of the Cat5, there's a flubberish sound. Doing the same with a Cat6, the sound becomes more firm, though plastic. Cat7 is full of metal. Cat(o)9 has the greatest authority, however. crenca, kumakuma and Lee Scoggins 3 请教别人一次是5分钟的傻子，从不请教别人是一辈子的傻子 Link to comment
Dr Tone Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 I prefer pink ethernet cables, they soften the sound in my system just right. Roon Rock->Auralic Aria G2->Schiit Yggdrasil A2->McIntosh C47->McIntosh MC301 Monos->Wilson Audio Sabrinas Link to comment
jabbr Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 10 hours ago, PeterSt said: When you whip 10ft of the Cat5, there's a flubberish sound. Doing the same with a Cat6, the sound becomes more firm, though plastic. Cat7 is full of metal. Do you like the Cat7 best against your back? (honestly there are many good values! I use Belden bonded cables — Blue Jeans Cable is a good vendor because they will send a test report with the cable assembly) Custom room treatments for headphone users. Link to comment
Popular Post rickca Posted January 30, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted January 30, 2019 13 hours ago, Lee Scoggins said: Are there sound quality differences between Cat 5, Cat 6, and Cat 7 cables? They all sound lousy playing MQA. Uzekamanzi, RCG, Samuel T Cogley and 2 others 2 3 Pareto Audio AMD 7700 Server --> Berkeley Alpha USB --> Jeff Rowland Aeris --> Jeff Rowland 625 S2 --> Focal Utopia 3 Diablos with 2 x Focal Electra SW 1000 BE subs i7-6700K/Windows 10 --> EVGA Nu Audio Card --> Focal CMS50's Link to comment
mav52 Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 My cat loves cat 5, its mellow 😉 The Truth Is Out There Link to comment
audiobomber Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 My NAS is connected to my router with two ethernet cables, operating in parallel. I can't hear any difference whatsoever between CAT5e and CAT7. I was using CAT5e from my wi-fi bridge to an sms-200. SOtM recommends CAT6 or better, so I bought an Audioquest Pearl CAT7 cable. I heard no change in the sound. I do hear clear differences in USB cables from the sms-200 to the DAC. Main System: QNAP TS-451+ NAS > Silent Angel Bonn N8 > Sonore opticalModule Deluxe v2 > Corning SMF with Finisar FTLF1318P3BTL SFPs > Uptone EtherREGEN > exaSound PlayPoint and e32 Mk-II DAC > Meitner MTR-101 Plus monoblocks > Bamberg S5-MTM sealed standmount speakers. Crown XLi 1500 powering AV123 Rocket UFW10 stereo subwoofers Upgraded power on all switches, renderer and DAC. Link to comment
Blackmorec Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 18 hours ago, Lee Scoggins said: What ethernet cables have members had success with? Are there sound quality differences between Cat 5, Cat 6, and Cat 7 cables? Is there a good value ethernet cable? I use Synergistic Research Atmospehere X Ref USB and Ethernet cables. Are they good value? Not in absolute terms.....for a simple cable their price is ridiculous. However in my system the USB cable sounded superior to a spaghetti solution of reclocker, PSU and 2 alternate high grade cables, so in relative terms based entirely on SQ yes. The Ethernet Atmosphere X Ref brought improvements in SQ similar to the USB cable.....extended frequency extremes, sound stage focus, detail, transparency and most important naturalness. Link to comment
Popular Post crenca Posted January 30, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted January 30, 2019 Cat 5 brings you perfect sound forever Cat 6 brings you perfect sound forever +1 Cat 7 brings you perfect sound forever^2 Synergistic Research (or anything else Audiophile rags would right about) brings you perfect sound forever + infinity You will need to consult an Audiophile what the sound of digital communication sounds like 😂 Sonicularity, Ralf11, DuckToller and 3 others 5 1 Hey MQA, if it is not all $voodoo$, show us the math! Link to comment
PeterSt Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 4 hours ago, crenca said: You will need to consult an Audiophile what the sound of digital communication sounds like 😂 Now every body so far was serious. Try again ? Lush^3-e Lush^2 Blaxius^2.5 Ethernet^3 HDMI^2 XLR^2 XXHighEnd (developer) Phasure NOS1 24/768 Async USB DAC (manufacturer) Phasure Mach III Audio PC with Linear PSU (manufacturer) Orelino & Orelo MKII Speakers (designer/supplier) Link to comment
Popular Post Samuel T Cogley Posted January 30, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted January 30, 2019 If this forum has taught me anything, it's that any Ethernet cable that meets modern specifications (CAT 5,6,7, etc.) will work just fine in any application, including audio. Sexy Ethernet cables are another matter entirely, as cable aesthetics are believed by some to affect sound quality. mav52, Ralf11 and Teresa 1 2 Link to comment
Popular Post wgscott Posted January 31, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted January 31, 2019 On 1/29/2019 at 4:04 PM, Lee Scoggins said: What ethernet cables have members had success with? Anything that isn't bent back and forth repeatedly. I have one I used to tie down the trunk of the car for a few years. It still works. I prefer blue and grey ones. On 1/29/2019 at 4:04 PM, Lee Scoggins said: Are there sound quality differences between Cat 5, Cat 6, and Cat 7 cables? Ethernet cables don't emit sound. On 1/29/2019 at 4:04 PM, Lee Scoggins said: Is there a good value ethernet cable? I think you can score an Audioquest for under $20K, but that is the one without the MQA license. Paul R, crenca and Ralf11 2 1 Link to comment
Popular Post mav52 Posted January 31, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted January 31, 2019 On 1/29/2019 at 7:04 PM, Lee Scoggins said: Is there a good value ethernet cable? Blue Jean Cable https://www.bluejeanscable.com/store/data-cables/index.htm Superdad and ericuco 1 1 The Truth Is Out There Link to comment
MarkS Posted February 1, 2019 Share Posted February 1, 2019 While it could be my imagination, SoTM Ethernet cable sounded better to me than Cardas and Audioquest diamond and vodka. - Mark Synology DS916+ > SoTM dCBL-CAT7 > Netgear switch > SoTM dCBL-CAT7 > dCS Vivaldi Upsampler (Nordost Valhalla 2 power cord) > Nordost Valhalla 2 Dual 110 Ohm AES/EBU > dCS Vivaldi DAC (David Elrod Statement Gold power cord) > Nordost Valhalla 2 xlr > Absolare Passion preamp (Nordost Valhalla 2 power cord) > Nordost Valhalla 2 xlr > VTL MB-450 III (Shunyata King Cobra CX power cords) > Nordost Valhalla 2 speaker > Kaiser Kaewero Classic /JL Audio F110 (Wireworld Platinum power cord). Power Conditioning: Entreq Olympus Tellus grounding (AC, preamp and dac) / Shunyata Hydra Triton + Typhoon (Shunyata Anaconda ZiTron umbilical/Shunyata King Cobra CX power cord) > Furutec GTX D-Rhodium AC outlet. Link to comment
wgscott Posted February 1, 2019 Share Posted February 1, 2019 On 1/30/2019 at 6:36 PM, mav52 said: Blue Jean Cable https://www.bluejeanscable.com/store/data-cables/index.htm I strung that under my house. So far, the rats haven't chewed through it. NOMBEDES 1 Link to comment
Popular Post Ralf11 Posted February 1, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted February 1, 2019 run some MQA thru it and see how they react Superdad and NOMBEDES 2 Link to comment
rn701 Posted February 1, 2019 Share Posted February 1, 2019 I'm all for them. Especially whichever ones they have on the shelf at Lowes or Office Depot when I need one. Link to comment
Ralf11 Posted February 1, 2019 Share Posted February 1, 2019 3 hours ago, rn701 said: I'm all for them. Especially whichever ones they have on the shelf at Lowes or Office Depot when I need one. rats? rather than just buying off the shelf, I'd recommend a nice Neotoma spp. Link to comment
Lee Scoggins Posted February 1, 2019 Author Share Posted February 1, 2019 Blue Jeans has shipped my Cat 6a cable out and it is scheduled to arrive tomorrow. I'm going to hook it up to the DirectStream DAC via the Network Bridge and report back results. Should be fun to finally use the Bridge and see album art on the DAC. There is enough room to wedge the white Cat 6a between the carpet and the baseboard so it should be fairly unobtrusive as well. Separately I got a note from Caelin Gabriel at Shunyata that they are beta testing some ethernet cables of their own design and that they are hearing sonic differences. Sounds like they are going to offer a product in the future. Link to comment
Blake Posted February 1, 2019 Share Posted February 1, 2019 Can we start a "Show off your Cables" photo thread? It could be very entertaining. Speaker Room: Lumin U1X | Lampizator Pacific 2 | Viva Linea | Constellation Inspiration Stereo 1.0 | FinkTeam Kim | dual Rythmik E15HP subs Office Headphone System: Lumin U1X | Lampizator Golden Gate 3 | Viva Egoista | Abyss AB1266 Phi TC Link to comment
Axial Posted February 1, 2019 Share Posted February 1, 2019 Anyone here who have measured them to see any graphical differences, plus participating in blind listening tests to check the auditive similarities, or slight variances? Forget the money, I'm talking strictly sound quality between brands, construction, connectors, metallurgy, science, mathematics, physics, concrete factual studies. I'm interested in higher knowledge, in the-matter-of-fact truth. wgscott 1 Sound Matters Link to comment
crenca Posted February 1, 2019 Share Posted February 1, 2019 19 minutes ago, Axial said: Anyone here who have measured them to see any graphical differences, plus participating in blind listening tests to check the auditive similarities, or slight variances? Forget the money, I'm talking strictly sound quality between brands, construction, connectors, metallurgy, science, mathematics, physics, concrete factual studies. I'm interested in higher knowledge, in the-matter-of-fact truth. Specifically in an audio setting? Who cares. We have this giant electronics/internet/military industrial complex that is utterly dependant on the reliability of digital communication ( and thus ethernet cables). This tiny niche of audio artisans and subjectivists have nothing (absolutely nothing) to contribute, not even "scientifically". It's like Lee says, they "hear" things... 😋 marce 1 Hey MQA, if it is not all $voodoo$, show us the math! Link to comment
Axial Posted February 1, 2019 Share Posted February 1, 2019 Ok, you seem to be well informed and knowing what you're talking about. Sound Matters Link to comment
crenca Posted February 1, 2019 Share Posted February 1, 2019 8 minutes ago, Axial said: Ok, you seem to be well informed and knowing what you're talking about. Sarcasm aside, yes what I said is true. Hey MQA, if it is not all $voodoo$, show us the math! Link to comment
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