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9 minutes ago, One and a half said:

One possible ask is from @computeraudiophile to allow edits as time goes on

 

I am pretty sure, although not 100% - so it would be good if @The Computer Audiophile confirmed - that the OP post can be edited in perpetuity, i.e. there is no time limited edit window.

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All,

 

I will check but I can still edit the main post so we should be good.  I had the idea of keeping the first post up to date with the configuration of my endpoint.  I will be adding the other configuration changes for timezone, etc. to the post so it is "finished".

 

There are two other threads around the server side configurations and the Audio Linux config testing thread.  I will add them in above.

 

I will still report sound quality findings on the "Massive" thread.

 

Going forward here I am investigating a couple of endpoint themes and if they work out I will adjust the config as needed.  

 

IF anyone has updates that will help others to understand building your own endpoint, has suggestions for fixes, etc.  Please feel free.  I abbreviated a few things that could use some more words.

 

Thanks for all the kind words and support!

 

Off to work on my HDPLEX power supply powering the server homework @austinpop assigned the other day!  

 

 

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Hey Bob,

That’s a really nice piece of work. Very useful for early adopters. And knowing my own IT limits this work makes the technology available to a far wider audience.

Its a great example of what collaboration can achieve, so ‘hats off’ to all the pioneers involved 

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Hi Bob,

 

Wow, thank you for putting in the effort to document the entire process. This should be very useful for those not familiar in building computers.

 

As several people tried all three of them I’d also mention the NUC7PJYH. This one is similar to the NUC7CJYH but has better availability and sounds better as well. The NUC7i7DN’xx’ would still be best out of these three but it is of course about four times as expensive.

 

Regarding the build process I’m afraid you overused thermal paste on the CPU. It’s difficult to say how much to use exactly but the less that is used the better. What one wants is a thin layer filling up the microscopic holes between the CPU and heatsink. Of course you need not panic as the excess paste will be pushed out. I generally apply a 1mm wide line from top to bottom. That line will spread out, without bubbles, over the entire surface, when attaching the heatsink. Another technique is applying a drop in de middle. See for example: https://m.wikihow.com/Apply-Thermal-Paste

 

 

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I have an older model Intel NUC D54250WYK i5. I have it in a Akasa fanless  H1 case. My question is would this model be suitable for this build. 

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4 hours ago, Dutch said:

Regarding the build process I’m afraid you overused thermal paste on the CPU. It’s difficult to say how much to use exactly but the less that is used the better. What one wants is a thin layer filling up the microscopic holes between the CPU and heatsink. Of course you need not panic as the excess paste will be pushed out. I generally apply a 1mm wide line from top to bottom. That line will spread out, without bubbles, over the entire surface, when attaching the heatsink. Another technique is applying a drop in de middle. See for example: https://m.wikihow.com/Apply-Thermal-Paste

Dutch I will put a note under the picture with your quote thanks.  This helps with the goal of having a good summary in the mater posts.  It is trying to fake a wiki!

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2 hours ago, bruny said:

I have an older model Intel NUC D54250WYK i5. I have it in a Akasa fanless  H1 case. My question is would this model be suitable for this build. 

Bruny,

 

I d do not know how that NUC will sound.  There are a lot of variables!

 

Before you do anything I do not know if the older devices will boot from UFEI as the new Audio Linux is setup to do.  

 

The procedure is pretty simple you could purchase an Audio Linux License, and a 32GB USB stick to test with.  Then follow the sections for building the USB boot, setting up the BIOS and setting up Audio Linux.

 

Bob

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I just did the same build and was planning to post some pics but your post covers everything. I just went with a Windows 10 and JRMC install but the hardware is almost identical. Had a bit of problems sourcing the Intel NUC7i7BDNE board but got one from a company called SimplyNUC. The want to sell it with RAM and SSD but you can get the bareboard. I had an SSD and only needed to buy the RAM which I got elsewhere. The case was ordered on Amazon and took two weeks to arrive. It was easier to build than my previous build I did a couple years ago using an i5 NUC board and the first Akasa fanless case. One thing I noted was that this does not have an IR receiver while my older one did. I used an IR remote for a while but haven't used it in a long time so not a major loss. My NUC does double duty as a home theatre player for which I have VLC installed. 

 

That first smoke test is always a bit of a pucker moment while you wait for it to boot up and come to life. 

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2 hours ago, DaQi said:

I just did the same build and was planning to post some pics but your post covers everything. I just went with a Windows 10 and JRMC install but the hardware is almost identical. Had a bit of problems sourcing the Intel NUC7i7BDNE board but got one from a company called SimplyNUC. The want to sell it with RAM and SSD but you can get the bareboard. I had an SSD and only needed to buy the RAM which I got elsewhere. The case was ordered on Amazon and took two weeks to arrive. It was easier to build than my previous build I did a couple years ago using an i5 NUC board and the first Akasa fanless case. One thing I noted was that this does not have an IR receiver while my older one did. I used an IR remote for a while but haven't used it in a long time so not a major loss. My NUC does double duty as a home theatre player for which I have VLC installed. 

 

That first smoke test is always a bit of a pucker moment while you wait for it to boot up and come to life. 

I found that if you start the "purchase" process on the Intel NUC site it shows you places to buy the product.  By doing that with Simply NUC you can avoid their up-sell items.  I have purchased from SimplyNUC also.  The Akasa cases seem to be in low stock.  I wonder if we are increasing the demand??

 

Thanks for sharing what you built and your experience. 

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7 hours ago, mrkoven said:

Thanks a lot for the guide! Can this function as Roon core or just endpoint?

The computer could be a Roon core, mine is not yet setup to do that.  I feel that it needs persistant storage so a 32GB Optane “SSD” for storage and then reconfigure Audio Liniux. 

 

I have the Optane SSD but I have not done the work to setup Audio Linux or installed it yet.  This is on the “bucket” list.

 

I am also looking at trying the endpoint with an internal wireless network.  This “might” reduce the need for an audiophile network switch.  

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On 1/14/2019 at 7:15 PM, bobfa said:

I found that if you start the "purchase" process on the Intel NUC site it shows you places to buy the product.  By doing that with Simply NUC you can avoid their up-sell items.  I have purchased from SimplyNUC also.  The Akasa cases seem to be in low stock.  I wonder if we are increasing the demand??

 

Thanks for sharing what you built and your experience. 

Yes, using the Intel site is eventually that is how I got to the bare board at SimplyNUC as it is almost impossible to find it otherwise. They were the only people that actually had stock. I ended up getting the Akasa case on Amazon but had to wait a couple weeks. Not sure if it is because it is new or because of demand that it took a while but it did come from the UK apparently. My original Akasa case I bought directly from Akasa in Taiwan prior to its general release as a developer's prototype. Having my own company (not in the IT industry) can be useful. Akasa makes great fanless cases for the NUC which is why I went back to them. Good for them if the demand is increasing as it should. It was a very easy build and everything fit well. I have been watching the temps on the core and am hovering around 35C which is great. Granted with the work it is doing that processor is idling. 

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14 hours ago, flkin said:

What an excellent effort! Bravo Bob!

Filkin,

 

Thank you very much.  I am continuing to work to update the lead post to show in one place what I am doing.  I am playing with NUC as a server right now, so that has been fun also.  I will add to the first post some links as  I get that part of the project completed.

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Thank you Bob for posting this tutorial. I've been considering experimenting with a NUC/AL and this is a great start! 

 

My primary need is for a roon server, I have a Rossini to serve as endpoint.

 

Are you planning on implementing a bridged / clocked switch setup? In his original post, romaz mentioned the benefit of bridging and clocked switch. If so, it would be great if you could update this post. I currently have a bridged modded imac with clocked switch and would like to keep the switch and bridge at play. I am most curious about NUC hardware requirements and AL configurations to support bridging.

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Udis,

 

I have an existing Roon Server that is bridged.  The Sonic Transporter i7 DSP.  I find that it works rather well.  I have recently put an HDPLEX 200 power supply on it and the system sound quality improved.  This is the point where I am today.  I will be proceeding down a couple of paths.  I have a TLS switch on order.  I am writing up a system design post that will be out soon.  Please hang on.  Note that this post is NUC Roon AL endpoint.  I am keeping it there.  Each leg of my system design will have its own base post that I can keep up to date.

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If you are asking about for the server and the hardware on this thread yes it fits fine.   The only addition for the server I am testing is the Optane memory.

 

IF you are talking about some other build you need to check the exact model NUC on the Akasa case site to match the case to the board..  The Plato X7D case is designed for the Dawson Cannon chipset NUC.

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