The Computer Audiophile Posted January 10, 2019 Share Posted January 10, 2019 View full article Founder of Audiophile Style | My Audio Systems Link to comment
Account Closed Posted January 10, 2019 Share Posted January 10, 2019 I like the format now with the 5 minute limit. Past that I would rather read it. This looks like a great product. I wonder how the new switch coming from Uptone will work with existing Rendus in comparison. The Computer Audiophile 1 Link to comment
Popular Post PeterG Posted January 10, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted January 10, 2019 Having dissed your video format before, I must now admit that it works very well for this type of thing. Nice job! asdf1000 and The Computer Audiophile 1 1 Link to comment
matthias Posted January 10, 2019 Share Posted January 10, 2019 I like it but would prefer to get some listening of the OR in Chris system, maybe for one minute. Matt "I want to know why the musicians are on stage, not where". (John Farlowe) Link to comment
asdf1000 Posted January 10, 2019 Share Posted January 10, 2019 Hi Chris @The Computer Audiophile Much prefer this kind of video - great improvement. Friendly feedback - there can be less of you on the screen and more of the product. For example: from 1min50sec to 2min06sec. Perfect time to show the parts you're talking about instead of us seeing your face 🙂 Keep up the great work. Link to comment
The Computer Audiophile Posted January 10, 2019 Author Share Posted January 10, 2019 2 minutes ago, Em2016 said: Hi Chris @The Computer Audiophile Much prefer this kind of video - great improvement. Friendly feedback - there can be less of you on the screen and more of the product. For example: from 1min50sec to 2min06sec. Perfect time to show the parts you're talking about instead of us seeing your face 🙂 Keep up the great work. Thanks for the feedback. I try to make the videos as much about the products and as little about me as possible 😁 Founder of Audiophile Style | My Audio Systems Link to comment
asdf1000 Posted January 10, 2019 Share Posted January 10, 2019 8 minutes ago, The Computer Audiophile said: Thanks for the feedback. I try to make the videos as much about the products and as little about me as possible 😁 I heard you say that in the video too. But then from 1min50sec to 2min06sec I'm shaking my fist at the screen. All said in good fun/spirits of course 😁 Link to comment
The Computer Audiophile Posted January 10, 2019 Author Share Posted January 10, 2019 22 minutes ago, Em2016 said: I heard you say that in the video too. But then from 1min50sec to 2min06sec I'm shaking my fist at the screen. All said in good fun/spirits of course 😁 Over the course of a century that 16 consecutive seconds could add up 😁 Founder of Audiophile Style | My Audio Systems Link to comment
asdf1000 Posted January 10, 2019 Share Posted January 10, 2019 Just now, The Computer Audiophile said: Over the course of a century that 16 consecutive seconds could add up 😁 Hehe. Just my friendly feedback about making the most of the 300 seconds you have to play with. Some people may not understand what SFP modules are or how to connect them. So after you said you want to make videos about the gear and not about you, we're looking at your face as you describe the hook-up 😉 Agreed, there are better things to worry about in this world. Just trying to help you (and help people understand the product better - which is your focus too). audiobomber 1 Link to comment
Popular Post loop7 Posted January 11, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted January 11, 2019 I don't know how this can be anything but very successful. I appreciate how you loaded the video with information about this new product. The Computer Audiophile, 4est and Albrecht 1 1 1 Link to comment
The Computer Audiophile Posted January 11, 2019 Author Share Posted January 11, 2019 35 minutes ago, Em2016 said: Hehe. Just my friendly feedback about making the most of the 300 seconds you have to play with. Some people may not understand what SFP modules are or how to connect them. So after you said you want to make videos about the gear and not about you, we're looking at your face as you describe the hook-up 😉 Agreed, there are better things to worry about in this world. Just trying to help you (and help people understand the product better - which is your focus too). Thanks em. asdf1000 1 Founder of Audiophile Style | My Audio Systems Link to comment
jcbenten Posted January 11, 2019 Share Posted January 11, 2019 So...when does the first DAC with Fiber Input come out? QNAP TS453Pro w/QLMS->Netgear Switch->Netgear RAX43 Router->Ethernet (50 ft)->Netgear switch->SBTouch ->SABAJ A10d->Linn Majik-IL (preamp)->Linn 2250->Linn Keilidh; Control Points: iPeng (iPad Air & iPhone); Also: Rega P3-24 w/ DV 10x5; OPPO 103; PC Playback: Foobar2000 & JRiver; Portable: iPhone 12 ProMax & Radio Paradise or NAS streaming; Sony NWZ ZX2 w/ PHA-3; SMSL IQ, Fiio Q5, iFi Nano iDSD BL; Garage: Edifier S1000DB Active Speakers Link to comment
asdf1000 Posted January 11, 2019 Share Posted January 11, 2019 3 minutes ago, jcbenten said: So...when does the first DAC with Fiber Input come out? Playback Designs have had high speed fiber input DACs for many many years. There's also the Lumin X1... Link to comment
The Computer Audiophile Posted January 11, 2019 Author Share Posted January 11, 2019 6 minutes ago, jcbenten said: So...when does the first DAC with Fiber Input come out? Wadia and EMM Labs had/have optical fiber but it is usually ST connection and also it isn’t Ethernet. Founder of Audiophile Style | My Audio Systems Link to comment
The Computer Audiophile Posted January 11, 2019 Author Share Posted January 11, 2019 3 minutes ago, Em2016 said: Playback Designs have had high speed fiber input DACs for many many years. There's also the Lumin X1... Is the Playback unit fiber Ethernet? Founder of Audiophile Style | My Audio Systems Link to comment
asdf1000 Posted January 11, 2019 Share Posted January 11, 2019 2 minutes ago, The Computer Audiophile said: Is the Playback unit fiber Ethernet? Good point - no it's not. He didn't ask about ethernet but it's a good point you make, since we're discussing the opticalRendu here. Lumin X1 is. The Computer Audiophile 1 Link to comment
bobfa Posted January 11, 2019 Share Posted January 11, 2019 Interesting product. It is great to see new approaches to getting music out of the "computer" into the stereo! My Audio Systems Link to comment
AudioDoctor Posted January 11, 2019 Share Posted January 11, 2019 I am really considering this if/when ROON integrates with Qobuz. 4est 1 No electron left behind. Link to comment
firedog Posted January 11, 2019 Share Posted January 11, 2019 That was good. After telling you some previous videos were too long, I think this was about right. A format I'd watch. Video should essentially be a media for giving us visuals of stuff that doesn't translate as well to written description, or results in wordy description that isn't that clear. We don't need video for the "review" part. That's what text is for and it is more time efficient for that. You got the right mix here. The best "review", IMO, would be a text one with short video clips showing us the stuff that is less suited for text. I also didn't know what an SFP input was, so I googled it. As far as the unit itself, it seems like something I'd be interested in, except for one issue: It gets many of us back to the "spaghetti" setup: 2 PS's, a switch, and the OR itself. The Computer Audiophile 1 Main listening (small home office): Main setup: Surge protector +>Isol-8 Mini sub Axis Power Strip/Isolation>QuietPC Low Noise Server>Roon (Audiolense DRC)>Stack Audio Link II>Kii Control>Kii Three (on their own electric circuit) >GIK Room Treatments. Secondary Path: Server with Audiolense RC>RPi4 or analog>Cayin iDAC6 MKII (tube mode) (XLR)>Kii Three . Bedroom: SBTouch to Cambridge Soundworks Desktop Setup. Living Room/Kitchen: Ropieee (RPi3b+ with touchscreen) + Schiit Modi3E to a pair of Morel Hogtalare. All absolute statements about audio are false Link to comment
vortecjr Posted January 11, 2019 Share Posted January 11, 2019 Chris, it's great to see you again:) I like the style of the video and appreciate how much time a 5 minute video can take to make. I'll forward customers to it for reference... SONORE computer audio | opticalRendu | ultraRendu | microRendu | Signature Rendu SE | endPoint | opticalModule DX | Power Supplies | Link to comment
vortecjr Posted January 11, 2019 Share Posted January 11, 2019 13 hours ago, bobflood said: I like the format now with the 5 minute limit. Past that I would rather read it. This looks like a great product. I wonder how the new switch coming from Uptone will work with existing Rendus in comparison. It should work great and will be systemOptique certified. SONORE computer audio | opticalRendu | ultraRendu | microRendu | Signature Rendu SE | endPoint | opticalModule DX | Power Supplies | Link to comment
vortecjr Posted January 11, 2019 Share Posted January 11, 2019 11 hours ago, jcbenten said: So...when does the first DAC with Fiber Input come out? I know of two DACs with optical network input. Remember this requires a computer in the DAC. Anyway, Lumin and MSB both have a DAC with optical network input. Our solution brings optical networking to any USB-Audio device. SONORE computer audio | opticalRendu | ultraRendu | microRendu | Signature Rendu SE | endPoint | opticalModule DX | Power Supplies | Link to comment
vortecjr Posted January 11, 2019 Share Posted January 11, 2019 8 hours ago, AudioDoctor said: I am really considering this if/when ROON integrates with Qobuz. We don't control what Roon does, but that seems to me in the works. SONORE computer audio | opticalRendu | ultraRendu | microRendu | Signature Rendu SE | endPoint | opticalModule DX | Power Supplies | Link to comment
vortecjr Posted January 11, 2019 Share Posted January 11, 2019 4 hours ago, firedog said: That was good. After telling you some previous videos were too long, I think this was about right. A format I'd watch. Video should essentially be a media for giving us visuals of stuff that doesn't translate as well to written description, or results in wordy description that isn't that clear. We don't need video for the "review" part. That's what text is for and it is more time efficient for that. You got the right mix here. The best "review", IMO, would be a text one with short video clips showing us the stuff that is less suited for text. I also didn't know what an SFP input was, so I googled it. As far as the unit itself, it seems like something I'd be interested in, except for one issue: It gets many of us back to the "spaghetti" setup: 2 PS's, a switch, and the OR itself. No. I called the 5x or 6x more complex suggestions of some spaghetti, but this is not spaghetti. First, many of our customers are already using optical fiber networking so this is a natural reduction in what the are already doing. Take Chris for example who already had optical waiting to be used. Second, most of our customers are using a switch. I'm using one in my audio room so nothing added for me. Third, we have other solutions that don't use fiber and the opticalRendu can be utilized with a cable Ethernet SFP module. Running out of time here, but you get the idea. On a final note, we don't make things complicated...we have always promoted simple solutions. Remote computer/NAS -> Rendu -> USB device. SONORE computer audio | opticalRendu | ultraRendu | microRendu | Signature Rendu SE | endPoint | opticalModule DX | Power Supplies | Link to comment
firedog Posted January 11, 2019 Share Posted January 11, 2019 7 minutes ago, vortecjr said: No. I called the 5x or 6x more complex suggestions of some spaghetti, but this is not spaghetti. First, many of our customers are already using optical fiber networking so this is a natural reduction in what the are already doing. Take Chris for example who already had optical waiting to be used. Second, most of our customers are using a switch. I'm using one in my audio room so nothing added for me. Third, we have other solutions that don't use fiber and the opticalRendu can be utilized with a cable Ethernet SFP module. Running out of time here, but you get the idea. On a final note, we don't make things complicated...we have always promoted simple solutions. Remote computer/NAS -> Rendu -> USB device. Okay, maybe I (and others) don’t understand the technology and terminology. How do you replace an existing USB to Ethernet renderer with one of these? Are you saying there is a cable that includes the SFP module you can plug into a convetional switch so that all you’d need to replace a convetional renderer is the cable, optical rendu, and PS for the OR? If so, then that’s not spaghetti, I agree. If it was me, (and I understand your approach is different) I’d rather have one box that includes at least the PS, in not also everything else. Main listening (small home office): Main setup: Surge protector +>Isol-8 Mini sub Axis Power Strip/Isolation>QuietPC Low Noise Server>Roon (Audiolense DRC)>Stack Audio Link II>Kii Control>Kii Three (on their own electric circuit) >GIK Room Treatments. Secondary Path: Server with Audiolense RC>RPi4 or analog>Cayin iDAC6 MKII (tube mode) (XLR)>Kii Three . Bedroom: SBTouch to Cambridge Soundworks Desktop Setup. Living Room/Kitchen: Ropieee (RPi3b+ with touchscreen) + Schiit Modi3E to a pair of Morel Hogtalare. All absolute statements about audio are false Link to comment
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