5G - Are We Safe Or Insane?

[Jud]

29 minutes ago, wgscott said:

My kid put foil in it and it burst into flames.

 

Try Peeps.

[Allan F]

3 hours ago, Jud said:

Lest there be confusion, the Brava ($1000) and the pizza oven are two distinct products.

 

It's far more satisfying to learn the basics of cooking and the results are likely be a lot better too. A good meat thermometer at a small fraction of the cost is your friend.

[Jud]

7 hours ago, Allan F said:

 

It's far more satisfying to learn the basics of cooking and the results are likely be a lot better too. A good meat thermometer at a small fraction of the cost is your friend.

 

You know this because you've tried the Brava? That spending twice as long waiting for your food to come from the oven is "far more satisfying"?

[marce]

15 hours ago, Jud said:

 

He wouldn't tell me anything that's classified.  I assume anything that's not is well known to anyone who's interested.

 

Edit: https://patents.justia.com/patent/9184822

Phase array design is quite popular in many areas from sound:

https://usa.yamaha.com/products/audio_visual/sound_bar/ysp-5600/index.html

to antennas:

https://radionor.no/

 

And of course the other stuff... 

Over the last few years it seems to have taken off quite a bit and now technology allows us to get this stuff on a pretty standard PCB (i.e. it can be made at an affordable price). 

[AudioDoctor]

11 hours ago, Jud said:

 

He may take over the country with his smart speakers.

 

https://www.sonos.com/en-us/home

 

You beat me to it!

[jabbr]

2 hours ago, Jud said:

 

You know this because you've tried the Brava? That spending twice as long waiting for your food to come from the oven is "far more satisfying"?

 

So ... on one hand we can get a $10,000 pizza oven or for just $1,000 a better way to reheat frozen pizza? 😂

[Allan F]

5 hours ago, Jud said:

You know this because you've tried the Brava? That spending twice as long waiting for your food to come from the oven is "far more satisfying"?

 

The Luddite in me finds doing many things the old fashioned way "far more satisfying" than using much of today's modern technology. As an example, I enjoy hand grinding my coffee and wouldn't let one of those pod coffeemakers past the door of my apartment. I don't want a computer cooking my food, and I certainly don't need another device taking up space in my small kitchen. I make an exception for audio. 

[jabbr]

5 hours ago, Jud said:

 

You know this because you've tried the Brava? That spending twice as long waiting for your food to come from the oven is "far more satisfying"?

 

You know really Jud, I expect you to understand the intricacies of purchasing decisions better that that

 

First of all I’ve long toyed with building an outdoor pizza oven :: the outdoor cooking area is my domain however  

 

What has held me back:

1)  a great neopolitan joint opened up 5 minutes away

2) we are on a low carb diet

3) I would be forced to cook pizza a very considerable amount of time for years

 

Ok now you want me to replace her toaster oven with another for $1000 because it’s “faster” and better at reheating frozen meals ... would that fly? ... plus I’d be invading her domain

 

I’d need a much better justification (I still get grief for getting the Joule even though it fits quietly in a cabinet

[jabbr]

19 hours ago, Ralf11 said:

and there is about to be this:

 

https://welcome.vermicular.us/

 

Vermicular’s Musui-Kamado (which translates to waterless oven), a round lidded cooking vessel with an electric induction heating base. The Musui-Kamado, which will make its stateside debut next week, has earned its place among Japanese households not only for its streamlined aesthetic, but also for its ability to challenge what a single pot can do. It promises to eclipse the Dutch oven as a kitchen’s most valuable workhorse, adding the more technical tasks of sous-viding (no vacuuming required), proofing bread and fermenting to the usual roster of slow cooking, roasting, sautéing and baking.

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/01/25/t-magazine/kassl-fishermans-coat-vermicular-oven-editors-picks.html

 

Hmmm ... compared against a $30 7 quart manual crock pot along with a <$40 Inkbird temp controller https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01HXM5UAC/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_pVZuCbY1C1MH3

 

I guess the bling factor is worth $600 😂

[Allan F]

47 minutes ago, jabbr said:

Ok now you want me to replace her toaster oven with another for $1000 because it’s “faster” and better at reheating frozen meals ... would that fly? ... plus I’d be invading her domain

 

Not exactly the perfect recipe for domestic bliss.

[mansr]

56 minutes ago, jabbr said:

2) we are on a low carb diet

That can be fixed by adding extra pepperoni.

[bluesman]

22 hours ago, Jud said:

What this does is use multiple beams so they interfere and combine in a way that only heats the tissue at the tumor location itself.

 

That's an approach that's been used in ionizing radiation therapy for years, Jud.   Parallel opposed fields (an early use of multiple energy beams in cancer therapy) gave way to multiple fields, then to three dimensional conformal radiotherapy (3DCRT). Now we have intensity modulated RT, which focuses the therapeutic dose and protects surrounding /intervening tissue even better.  3D imaging is used to plan the exposure fields, and delivery is tightly controlled by computers.  If we had a home source of radiation, DietPi could add it as an app & we could treat our own tumors in the garage!

 

Multiple energy beams for precise localization & concentration are used across the energy spectrum and in "both directions".  Raytheon developed such a system with audio frequencies for pinpoint localization of sound sources. It's for military use, but it could have some utility in computer audio.  Sadly, we don't have room for a helicopter in our living room since we downsized  

[Jud]

1 hour ago, jabbr said:

we are on a low carb diet

 

In Italy with my (sadly, late) best friend from work:

 

Me - "What should I have for lunch?"

 

BF - "Pizza!"

 

Me - "Fred, I'm on a low cholesterol diet."

 

BF - "Then have a calzone!"

[Axial]

1 hour ago, bluesman said:

 

That's an approach that's been used in ionizing radiation therapy for years, Jud.   Parallel opposed fields (an early use of multiple energy beams in cancer therapy) gave way to multiple fields, then to three dimensional conformal radiotherapy (3DCRT). Now we have intensity modulated RT, which focuses the therapeutic dose and protects surrounding /intervening tissue even better.  3D imaging is used to plan the exposure fields, and delivery is tightly controlled by computers.  If we had a home source of radiation, DietPi could add it as an app & we could treat our own tumors in the garage!

 

Multiple energy beams for precise localization & concentration are used across the energy spectrum and in "both directions".  Raytheon developed such a system with audio frequencies for pinpoint localization of sound sources. It's for military use, but it could have some utility in computer audio.  Sadly, we don't have room for a helicopter in our living room since we downsized  

 

▪ https://globalnews.ca/news/4906544/canada-diplomats-cuba-illness/

 

It's like a mysterious secret, a new harmful weapon, undetected, audio transmission high frequency sound waves. Yes the army uses that technology and in movies too ...

 

The full scene (extremely supremely convincing):

 

■ Brand new fresh (today):

https://www.scmp.com/news/china/military/article/2184493/why-5g-battleground-us-and-china-also-fight-military-supremacy

[Ralf11]

6 hours ago, jabbr said:

 

So ... on one hand we can get a $10,000 pizza oven or for just $1,000 a better way to reheat frozen pizza? 😂

 

for a really good pizza, a home oven is insufficient due to the very high temperatures required - one guy I know looked into building an outdoor pizza oven and the fireproof brick required was several kilobucks - just the brick

 

I think a radiant heat BBQ setup might be one way to do this 🧚‍♂️

 

I just make a sub-optimal pizza at home or go to a local place which is certified by the Neapolitan Pizza Institute, the Verace Pizza Napoletana which is chartered by the Italian govt. (maybe it is DOP??).  Besides the oven, the ingredients are required to be Italian flour, San Marzano tomatoes and some restrictions on the mozzarella (house-made).  The Italian govt. does not require Master Quality Authenticated muzak hower.

 

They have a "domed-shaped, wood-burning oven that reaches temperatures of up to 1,500 degrees."

 

Frozen pizza is not a good way to eat!

[mansr]

6 minutes ago, Ralf11 said:

Frozen pizza is not a good way to eat!

Frozen pizza is the mp3 of food.

[Jud]

On 1/27/2019 at 8:56 PM, wgscott said:

 

Apparently that happened awhile ago.

 

https://www.nature.com/articles/nature10388

 

 

 

On 1/27/2019 at 10:01 PM, AudioDoctor said:

 

Next time someone says evolution isn't a thing, bring up drug resistant bacteria...

 

 

https://www.theatlantic.com/science/archive/2016/09/stunning-videos-of-evolution-in-action/499136/

 

https://www.theatlantic.com/science/archive/2019/01/unprecedentedly-thorough-evolution-experiment/581521/

[jabbr]

2 hours ago, bluesman said:

Now we have intensity modulated RT, which focuses the therapeutic dose and protects surrounding /intervening tissue even better. 

Which has been in clinical use for 25 years  “stereotactic” RT twice that time 

[jabbr]

34 minutes ago, mansr said:

Frozen pizza is the mp3 of food.

 

Since I have a neopolitan place down the street and typical (“yak”) American within easy delivery, I haven’t followed any technical advances in frozen pizza for at least several decades, hence my hesitance to plunk down $1k ... the common IR/convection toasters are useful though

[jabbr]

3 hours ago, Jud said:

Me - "Fred, I'm on a low cholesterol diet."

 

BF - "Then have a calzone!"

 

😂😂😂 

 

I’d say caramelized onions & anchovies 😎

[Ralf11]

why can't I buy frozen caramelized onions ??

[elcorso]

On 1/29/2019 at 6:13 PM, Teresa said:

 

Roch, my only phone is a corded landline, the Vtech CD1103. I would never get a cordless or a cell phone. It cost me $6 at Walmart many years ago and I expect it to last 10-15 years.

 

I also prefer to use the gas stove and oven. When I do use the microwave oven I leave the room until it beeps.

 

Teresa,

 

I have a micro but I use it very little, as to heat water.

 

Also cell phone, for emergency when I'm driving, to use WAZE because street signage is very bad or nonexistent here. There is an app on it that I love, PlantSnap, to identify plants just by taking a photo. But I'm not a slave to him.

 

I eat very healthy, I do not like the frozen, tv dinners, etc.

 

Almost a strict follower of the Mediterranean diet.

 

As for 5G et all, I'm not exactly afraid of cancer, but of other possible effects. I mentioned a few days ago in this forum that my cardiac rhythm was greatly affected by a router that was located very close to my body most of the day. I do not have any scientific evidence about it, but when I relocated it everything was normalized.

 

I do not know, nor have I analyzed it if all this non-ionizing radiation could be affecting our circadian rhythm. It could be possible, since I relocated the router I sleep like a baby.

 

I also eliminated the LED lights I was most exposed to.

 

I've been thinking about telepathy, but there are very few receptive people these days 🤔

 

I will not provide any link regarding telepathy because @AudioDoctor

does not read it 😂

 

Roch

[esldude]

5 hours ago, Jud said:

 

In Italy with my (sadly, late) best friend from work:

 

Me - "What should I have for lunch?"

 

BF - "Pizza!"

 

Me - "Fred, I'm on a low cholesterol diet."

 

BF - "Then have a calzone!"

Don't mention calzone.  A place where I live makes them so good.  You have to order it ahead of time and be there on time to purchase it.  If you reach three minutes late he sells it to someone else.  If you've been late before he remembers, and may not take your order. Sort of like a real world Calzone Nazi (of Seinfeld fame).  No one eats his calzone past its perfect time and there are no takeouts.  

 

I can imagine a good calzone like that being just fine on a low cholesterol diet as long as you only take one half of one bite. I can of course not imagine anyone taking that half bite and not having the rest.  

[AudioDoctor]

I came here to post one thing, now I have to post two...

 

@elcorso my SO is making me reconsider telepathy. I can't get away with anything, even when she's in Aruba and I'm stuck here... 😉

 

Anyway, check this speed test of my ATT cell service on my phone today...

 

Why do I need 5G? I can wait till someone else other than Huawei gets it sorted at this speed.

[esldude]

14 minutes ago, AudioDoctor said:

I came here to post one thing, now I have to post two...

 

@elcorso my SO is making me reconsider telepathy. I can't get away with anything, even when she's in Aruba and I'm stuck here... 😉

 

Anyway, check this speed test of my ATT cell service on my phone today...

 

Why do I need 5G? I can wait till someone else other than Huawei gets it sorted at this speed.

Look at your ping time man.  36 milliseconds.  If your self driving car, is in line with 40 other self driving cars in close proximity during rush hour at 100 mph (160 kph), and your watching 16 k video while also taking part in a streaming 16 k video conference related to your business, and streaming DSD 4096 music, and your medical implants are actively communicating with your medical IOT provider, and commenting on Audiophile Style it will be a total disaster with 36 millisecond ping times on each contacting of the network (there'll be hundreds of these delays per second) on each of those high speed activities. 

 

Your car will crash and you'll die.  You'll be liable for it killing 39 other people.  Your medical condition not being updated real time will likely kill you even if you don't crash.  You'll loose your job when your video conferencing glitches and intercuts your 16 k movie clips into the proceedings.  Which means you'll loose health coverage for your medical implants to contact your medical IOT provider anyway.   Your music quality will glitch and suck so bad the collapse of the soundstage may cause you to wrest control of the car from the AI thinking it has stopped working.  Plus your call to FAS42 for help on AS will probably get lost in the kerfuffle anyway.  

 

No man, your lousy 4G is too dangerous to contemplate.