hifi25nl Posted November 2, 2019 Share Posted November 2, 2019 A general recommendation for all users: HOW TO RESIZE AUDIOLINUX PARTITION 1) If you have also Audiolinux LXQt: make a second installation on a USB stick, boot from the new installation and extend the ext4 partition on the old installation with gparted (easy, because the application has a GUI) 2) If you don't have Audiolinux LXQt: enable ramroot, reboot, select the option resize in system menu. I you want to switch back to normal mode: reboot answering N to ramroot boot prompt at the beginning of boot, disable ramroot, reboot AudioLinux --> https://www.audio-linux.com developer of AudioLinux realtime OS Link to comment
jcn3 Posted November 2, 2019 Share Posted November 2, 2019 Ok, thanks so much. Will get on that. (1) holo audio red (hqp naa) > chord dave > luxman cl-38uc/mq-88uc > kef reference 1 (2) simaudio moon mind 2 > chord qutest > luxman sq-n150 > monitor audio gold gx100 Link to comment
luisma Posted November 3, 2019 Share Posted November 3, 2019 On 10/22/2019 at 2:49 PM, cat6man said: hqplayer embedded under AL in ramroot Hi, silly question but you are using all cores for your HQP correct? with HT disabled, don't know why on my NUC when HT is disabled HQPe only uses the 1st core, and I don't have core isolation of course. If I enabled HT, HQPe uses all cores Link to comment
jkelly Posted November 3, 2019 Share Posted November 3, 2019 Looking for a little help. I am trying to get 2.0 running. I have a two NUC system - one with Roon and HQPlayer Embedded and the other running NAA.. The previous version (1.x) worked fine. I downloaded the newest files, updated menu, updated all software. All connections are running. I see the both audio services running on the "master" NUC. After about a minute they both disappear from the Show audio services menu. Blank menu no text on it. And of course, the Roon control application blanks out. I hope this is something simple - any ideas? TY! Jeff Qobuz - HQPlayer(d) 5 - M1 Mini - RPI 5 8gb - Nuc i7 - Signature Silver DC - Keces P3 PS - Lush USB - Holo Spring Dac - SRC-DX - Chord Mojo2 - Bottlehead Crack Upgraded w/ GEC or Tung-Sol 6as7/vt231 - Triode Wire Labs AC - HD-650 - GR Research V2 - Dennis Murphy Pioneer BS22 - B&W 602 S2 - Apple Music Spatial 7.1.4 Link to comment
hifi25nl Posted November 3, 2019 Share Posted November 3, 2019 The first 3 things to check: 1) Free hard disk space. Select STATUS menu -> HARD DISK status 2) systemctl is-enabled rtapp.timer If enabled, type as root: systemctl disable rtapp.timer and reboot 3) Network Select STATUS menu -> NETWORK status 4) From another computer/smartphone at ipaddress:8088 configure HQPlayer DAC etc. AudioLinux --> https://www.audio-linux.com developer of AudioLinux realtime OS Link to comment
jkelly Posted November 3, 2019 Share Posted November 3, 2019 The only one that is questionable is: NAME FSTYPE LABEL UUID MOUNTPOINT │ │ FSSIZE FSAVAIL │ │ sda │ │ ├─sda1 vfat 73D0-F3F1 │ │ └─sda2 ext4 audiolinux 76770e44-3602-4a3b-9b7c-485109c5ac7a /run/media/audiolinux/audiolinux │ │ 27.6G 20.9G │ │ zram0 / │ │ 6.7G 0 I have another linux box that I run gparted on and extend ext4. Qobuz - HQPlayer(d) 5 - M1 Mini - RPI 5 8gb - Nuc i7 - Signature Silver DC - Keces P3 PS - Lush USB - Holo Spring Dac - SRC-DX - Chord Mojo2 - Bottlehead Crack Upgraded w/ GEC or Tung-Sol 6as7/vt231 - Triode Wire Labs AC - HD-650 - GR Research V2 - Dennis Murphy Pioneer BS22 - B&W 602 S2 - Apple Music Spatial 7.1.4 Link to comment
hifi25nl Posted November 3, 2019 Share Posted November 3, 2019 ...you forgot to mention that you have ramroot enabled. I see zram0 available 0. This cannot work. Maybe you have Roon Database on the same Audiolinux partition and is loaded entirely to RAM? (hard disk has instead 20.9 Gb available, that is good) AudioLinux --> https://www.audio-linux.com developer of AudioLinux realtime OS Link to comment
jkelly Posted November 3, 2019 Share Posted November 3, 2019 OK good - so I have to get the roon database over to ext4, I assume. I see your instructions on your website. Is there an option to do this in the roon installer? Qobuz - HQPlayer(d) 5 - M1 Mini - RPI 5 8gb - Nuc i7 - Signature Silver DC - Keces P3 PS - Lush USB - Holo Spring Dac - SRC-DX - Chord Mojo2 - Bottlehead Crack Upgraded w/ GEC or Tung-Sol 6as7/vt231 - Triode Wire Labs AC - HD-650 - GR Research V2 - Dennis Murphy Pioneer BS22 - B&W 602 S2 - Apple Music Spatial 7.1.4 Link to comment
hifi25nl Posted November 3, 2019 Share Posted November 3, 2019 No. You can also install mre RAM if possible AudioLinux --> https://www.audio-linux.com developer of AudioLinux realtime OS Link to comment
jkelly Posted November 3, 2019 Share Posted November 3, 2019 Funny, I put the one version back stick back in and booted and I don't get the disk full problems: NAME FSTYPE LABEL UUID MOUNTPOINT FSSIZE FSAVAIL │ │ sda │ │ ├─sda1 vfat 09EC-B22A /boot 487M 439M │ │ └─sda2 ext4 02794dbc-93da-4c23-a03a-315c051dedbd │ │ zram0 / 11.6G 3.6G Qobuz - HQPlayer(d) 5 - M1 Mini - RPI 5 8gb - Nuc i7 - Signature Silver DC - Keces P3 PS - Lush USB - Holo Spring Dac - SRC-DX - Chord Mojo2 - Bottlehead Crack Upgraded w/ GEC or Tung-Sol 6as7/vt231 - Triode Wire Labs AC - HD-650 - GR Research V2 - Dennis Murphy Pioneer BS22 - B&W 602 S2 - Apple Music Spatial 7.1.4 Link to comment
jkelly Posted November 3, 2019 Share Posted November 3, 2019 All good. I rebuilt the stick and did everything with ramroot off and all seems to be work now. I'll try the ramroot after I back up this stick. Qobuz - HQPlayer(d) 5 - M1 Mini - RPI 5 8gb - Nuc i7 - Signature Silver DC - Keces P3 PS - Lush USB - Holo Spring Dac - SRC-DX - Chord Mojo2 - Bottlehead Crack Upgraded w/ GEC or Tung-Sol 6as7/vt231 - Triode Wire Labs AC - HD-650 - GR Research V2 - Dennis Murphy Pioneer BS22 - B&W 602 S2 - Apple Music Spatial 7.1.4 Link to comment
jkelly Posted November 3, 2019 Share Posted November 3, 2019 Whenever I switch to ramroot, I get the same problem, but this doesn't happen with the previous version. I know I have to move the database to ext4, but don't understand why I have to with the new version. For now I will keep the non-ramroot running. Qobuz - HQPlayer(d) 5 - M1 Mini - RPI 5 8gb - Nuc i7 - Signature Silver DC - Keces P3 PS - Lush USB - Holo Spring Dac - SRC-DX - Chord Mojo2 - Bottlehead Crack Upgraded w/ GEC or Tung-Sol 6as7/vt231 - Triode Wire Labs AC - HD-650 - GR Research V2 - Dennis Murphy Pioneer BS22 - B&W 602 S2 - Apple Music Spatial 7.1.4 Link to comment
hifi25nl Posted November 3, 2019 Share Posted November 3, 2019 You could try to change configuration in /etc/ramroot.conf There are some settings about min. and max. RAM to assign to zram For changing it reboot to normal mode answering N to boot prompt After configuration is done you must type as root user ramroot -E If you want to enable ramroot with the new configuration. You can also select the clean option in system menu and check for uncleaned directories in /tmp for example pamac temporary ones AudioLinux --> https://www.audio-linux.com developer of AudioLinux realtime OS Link to comment
Bricki Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 On 11/2/2019 at 9:01 AM, hifi25nl said: Try to remove some dependencies left, no necessary to reinstall (a little risky, as I said before) pamac remove ffmpeg libgmpris rygel adduser-deb shairport-sync -o (pay attention to what is removing before pressing Y) -> shairport-sync is linux AirPlay I have tried this and removed these but unfortunately the file system is still about a gigabyte larger than the previous version. Also roonbridge didn't run after this. So I started again with a fresh image and tried pamac application-name -o with hqplayer-embedded, hqplayer-network-audio-daemon, roonserver and shairport-sync but the file system is still about a gig larger than the previous version. So unless there is something large that I don't need to run roonbridge then I might have to accept defeat and go back to the previous version which I don't think sounds as natural but with ramroot working the sound stage is more open. It's a shame because I'm participating in the RAM group buy and ordered 4 GB because it's all I've ever needed for this endpoint and it's impossible to get another 4 gig of the new version apacer wide temp stuff.... serious bummer with no real solution 😐 Link to comment
hifi25nl Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 Audiolinux headless 1.5.0 real size 3.GB (3,273,345,765) Audiolinux headless 2.0.0 real size 3.1 GiB (3,331,554,518) Difference is minimal. Maybe the reason is the default configuration of ramroot 2.0 In /etc/ramroot.conf: # minimum Mb free ram: ram_min=750 # minimum Mb free zram: zram_min=250 # preferred Mb free ram: ram_pref=4000 # maximum Mb free ram: zram_max=1000 So ramroot will need, with the default configuration, at least 3,1+750+250=4.1 GB Because of this the recommended RAM size is 8 GB How to use ramroot with 4GB? 1) Set ram_min to 500 GB (a little risky, I would test first with a test USB stick installation, but if are not using Roon, it could work) As said before: For changing it reboot to normal mode answering N to boot prompt After configuration is done you must type as root user ramroot -E If you want to enable ramroot with the new configuration. 2) Remove unused packages Since 2) is not as easy as it sounds I have added a new option to the site: Audiolinux reduced size (only Roon or HQPLayer etc.) -> contact support This is only "one time, no update!" option (but you can eventually update menu and kernel). AudioLinux --> https://www.audio-linux.com developer of AudioLinux realtime OS Link to comment
Bricki Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 49 minutes ago, hifi25nl said: Audiolinux headless 1.5.0 real size 3.GB (3,273,345,765) Audiolinux headless 2.0.0 real size 3.1 GiB (3,331,554,518) Difference is minimal. Maybe the reason is the default configuration of ramroot 2.0 In /etc/ramroot.conf: # minimum Mb free ram: ram_min=750 # minimum Mb free zram: zram_min=250 # preferred Mb free ram: ram_pref=4000 # maximum Mb free ram: zram_max=1000 So ramroot will need, with the default configuration, at least 3,1+750+250=4.1 GB Because of this the recommended RAM size is 8 GB How to use ramroot with 4GB? 1) Set ram_min to 500 GB (a little risky, I would test first with a test USB stick installation, but if are not using Roon, it could work) As said before: For changing it reboot to normal mode answering N to boot prompt After configuration is done you must type as root user ramroot -E If you want to enable ramroot with the new configuration. 2) Remove unused packages Since 2) is not as easy as it sounds I have added a new option to the site: Audiolinux reduced size (only Roon or HQPLayer etc.) -> contact support This is only "one time, no update!" option (but you can eventually update menu and kernel). Thanks heaps for this Piero. This is excellent news. I will contact you via support about getting an audiolinux reduced size version with just roon bridge. Thanks again 👍 Link to comment
jkelly Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 15 hours ago, hifi25nl said: You could try to change configuration in /etc/ramroot.conf Running 2.0 - RAMROOT OFF - this is my ramroot.conf. Does this look ok? GNU nano 4.5 ramroot.conf #!usr/bin/ash # mounts loaded to zram: mounts_zram='UUID=9913-922E:/boot' # mounts ignored: mounts_null='' # prompt default: ps_default=yes # prompt timout: ps_timeout=8 # minimum MiB free ram: ram_min=750 # minimum MiB free zram: zram_min=250 # preferred MiB free ram: ram_pref=4000 # maximum MiB free ram: zram_max=1000 Qobuz - HQPlayer(d) 5 - M1 Mini - RPI 5 8gb - Nuc i7 - Signature Silver DC - Keces P3 PS - Lush USB - Holo Spring Dac - SRC-DX - Chord Mojo2 - Bottlehead Crack Upgraded w/ GEC or Tung-Sol 6as7/vt231 - Triode Wire Labs AC - HD-650 - GR Research V2 - Dennis Murphy Pioneer BS22 - B&W 602 S2 - Apple Music Spatial 7.1.4 Link to comment
hifi25nl Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 I have sent you a link for a test headless image with only 2.8 GB size, if you are the same Jkelly.... AudioLinux --> https://www.audio-linux.com developer of AudioLinux realtime OS Link to comment
jkelly Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 Yes I am downloading. Qobuz - HQPlayer(d) 5 - M1 Mini - RPI 5 8gb - Nuc i7 - Signature Silver DC - Keces P3 PS - Lush USB - Holo Spring Dac - SRC-DX - Chord Mojo2 - Bottlehead Crack Upgraded w/ GEC or Tung-Sol 6as7/vt231 - Triode Wire Labs AC - HD-650 - GR Research V2 - Dennis Murphy Pioneer BS22 - B&W 602 S2 - Apple Music Spatial 7.1.4 Link to comment
Popular Post Bricki Posted November 5, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted November 5, 2019 Thanks to Piero, I now have a reduced size version of audiolinux 2 with roon bridge and ramroot running with 4 GB of RAM. To achieve this in my setup I had to reduce ram_min to 400 and zram_min to 180 in the ramroot.conf file. As you can see, this was only just enough. So far it has been running perfectly for over 12 hours 👍. As far as sound quality goes, I think that audiolinux 2 sounds more refined and relaxed than the previous version. Even more details and background sounds that were previously obscured have come to life. I highly recommend upgrading to audiolinux 2 if you haven't already. It's well worth the money. Thanks again to Piero for all the hard work 👍 Boomboy and Monge 2 Link to comment
adamthebrave Posted November 6, 2019 Share Posted November 6, 2019 I have a problem, pülease help me to solve it. I run Audiolinux LQXT 4.00 with menu 204 on my ControlPC. I set up everything, works fine. As the last step I put my system to RAM. It takes ca. 5 mintues, after the system works fine. But when I check the ramroot status or I want the save the system I have error messages. I rebooted the check it and my Roon database in not up to date, so it was in RAM. What can be the solution? Link to comment
hifi25nl Posted November 6, 2019 Share Posted November 6, 2019 The problem is that you have auto-mount enabled in lxqt. Because of this audiolinux partition is mounted in /run/media/audiolinux/audiolinux and the script ramsave think that you are not in ram mode. Go to PCManFM-Qt (the file explorer) preferences and uncheck all the mount options. This way ramsave should work. ---------------- NOTE 1 If you want to use all your available memory in ramroot mode. You must edit the ramroot configuration file. 1) Reboot in normal mode answering N to boot prompt 2) Using File editor ROOT in system menu edit the file /etc/ramroot.conf The lineram_pref=4000 is the maximum amount of RAM in ramroot mode. The default value 4000 is fine (if you have at least 16 GB) The other linezram_max=1000 is the max free zram memory (equivalent to free disk space) . This is very low. In theory, if the RAM is 4000, you could go up to 12000. If your RAM is 32GB you could go to 28000 or less if you give more than 4000 to RAM. After changing for example 1000 to 12000 or choose the combination of ram_pref and zram_max that you prefer, you must go to console typesu give root password audiolinux0 and typeramroot -E -> This procedure will be a lot more easy in the next menu version NOTE 2 the option RAMROOT in Status menu is not working now because the command "ramroot status" in the new version 2.0 of ramroot is missing . I will update soon in the next menu release. The "Show configuration" option in main menu however should display the right status. AudioLinux --> https://www.audio-linux.com developer of AudioLinux realtime OS Link to comment
adamthebrave Posted November 6, 2019 Share Posted November 6, 2019 4 minutes ago, hifi25nl said: The problem is that you have auto-mount enabled in lxqt. Because of this audiolinux partition is mounted in /run/media/audiolinux/audiolinux and the script ramsave think that you are not in ram mode. Go to PCManFM-Qt (the file explorer) preferences and uncheck all the mount options. This way ramsave should work. Thank for the quick answer. Is this affects my SSD mounting options? I have an 4TB SSD with my music in this PC. Link to comment
hifi25nl Posted November 6, 2019 Share Posted November 6, 2019 Yes, but in your final configuration, you should not use auto-mount for your your music drive, but mount it with the option "MOUNT local drive" in system menu. This will avoid also possible permission problems since the Audiolinux script will mount the drive with the right parameters. After you should update your audio application settings with the new mount location that will be a sub-folder of /media AudioLinux --> https://www.audio-linux.com developer of AudioLinux realtime OS Link to comment
adamthebrave Posted November 6, 2019 Share Posted November 6, 2019 2 minutes ago, hifi25nl said: Yes, but in your final configuration, you should not use auto-mount for your your music drive, but mount it with the option "MOUNT local drive" in system menu. This will avoid also possible permission problems since the Audiolinux script will mount the drive with the right parameters. After you should update your audio application settings with the new mount location that will be a sub-folder of /media This is interesting becouse I haven't known that there's another option to mount/automount other than in the system menu. I always use that one and until now I haven't used the LQXT File Explorer. I set up everything (incl. the ramroot.conf) I booted again in RAM and nothing changed, I can't save system. Link to comment
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