GentooPlayer

[Sebastian T.]

Oh, so the 64 bit version is a bit older? 

[antonellocaroli]

2 minutes ago, Sebastian T. said:

Oh, so the 64 bit version is a bit older? 

I didn't understand, I just wanted to say that you can upgrade to version 4.1.0 only on pc not on arm architectures...there is not yet this version for arm...

[Sebastian T.]

So the https://www.signalyst.eu/bins/naa/linux/buster/networkaudiod_4.1.0-45_armhf.deb cannot be installed?

[antonellocaroli]

3 minutes ago, Sebastian T. said:

So the https://www.signalyst.eu/bins/naa/linux/buster/networkaudiod_4.1.0-45_armhf.deb cannot be installed?

I'm sorry, I didn't see them, so you can update...now

[Sebastian T.]

That's awesome! Thank you!

[Sebastian T.]

And I have one more question: would I be able to install raspotify under GentooPlayer?

[antonellocaroli]

17 hours ago, DomieMic65 said:

updating to .106  kernels on my rpi4 it made it ususable 

I reflashed the sd card updated kernel to .106 and still after sellecting one (nr 6) again rpi can't be accessed (ssh or web) 

I think you had this problem because the system was rebooted when the files weren't completely decompressed...
Now I've put a sleeper that should fix the problem...

[antonellocaroli]

23 minutes ago, Sebastian T. said:

And I have one more question: would I be able to install raspotify under GentooPlayer?

no

[DomieMic65]

22 minutes ago, antonellocaroli said:

I think you had this problem because the system was rebooted when the files weren't completely decompressed...
Now I've put a sleeper that should fix the problem...

OK!! Thank you!!

So update should be safe(er) now?

[antonellocaroli]

14 minutes ago, DomieMic65 said:

OK!! Thank you!!

So update should be safe(er) now?

yes, after gp-update...should work well

[DomieMic65]

20 minutes ago, antonellocaroli said:

yes, after gp-update...should work well

it did!

[Downtheline]

9 hours ago, antonellocaroli said:

if gentooplayer has an internet connection do gp-update first...and then try again.

 

 

or

 

 

try giving the command:

 

ifconfig wlan0 up

 

and try to see if he sees the ssid
 

The ifconfig command worked!

[stefano_mbp]

Hello @antonellocaroli

just upgraded to version 2.11 on rpi4 using the web interface and everything is ok but ... the functions Player C, D, E, F are not working anymore, if I select one of them I receive the error “Failed to load script info. Try to reload the page. Error message: 
Failed to connect to the server”

 

[antonellocaroli]

1 hour ago, stefano_mbp said:

Hello @antonellocaroli

just upgraded to version 2.11 on rpi4 using the web interface and everything is ok but ... the functions Player C, D, E, F are not working anymore, if I select one of them I receive the error “Failed to load script info. Try to reload the page. Error message: 
Failed to connect to the server”

 

strange... try gp-update...

[stefano_mbp]

I did but nothing changed

[antonellocaroli]

I just did a test run on an rpi4... and everything works...

Isn't your SD card full?
 

[Branko]

Hello altogether,

 

found this forum trough a hint at diyaudio. As I am trying to read though all those posts I have some questions to get up and running.

 

I use a BeagleBoneBlack with cape from twisted pear to a Buffalo IIIpro se Dac (ES9038 chip) with Roon.

 

Are there are some recommendations for witch kernel to use (with botic) to preserve the power down protection by the installed battery. And how would I test it without destroying my BBB by try and error. I would have to power the player down by mains switch without performing an power down sequence (ie over ssh or power bouton on BBB). ATM if the BBB sees power loss it starts power down sequence with battery power (sorry I am Linux noob)

 

What are the best options regarding sound quality?

 

Thx

 

Branko

[The Computer Audiophile]

24 minutes ago, Branko said:

Hello altogether,

 

found this forum trough a hint at diyaudio. As I am trying to read though all those posts I have some questions to get up and running.

 

I use a BeagleBoneBlack with cape from twisted pear to a Buffalo IIIpro se Dac (ES9038 chip) with Roon.

 

Are there are some recommendations for witch kernel to use (with botic) to preserve the power down protection by the installed battery. And how would I test it without destroying my BBB by try and error. I would have to power the player down by mains switch without performing an power down sequence (ie over ssh or power bouton on BBB). ATM if the BBB sees power loss it starts power down sequence with battery power (sorry I am Linux noob)

 

What are the best options regarding sound quality?

 

Thx

 

Branko

Welcome to AS Branko. You may find some info in this article, otherwise keep asking and I’m sure someone will have the answer. 
 

 

[antonellocaroli]

8 hours ago, Branko said:

Hello altogether,

 

found this forum trough a hint at diyaudio. As I am trying to read though all those posts I have some questions to get up and running.

 

I use a BeagleBoneBlack with cape from twisted pear to a Buffalo IIIpro se Dac (ES9038 chip) with Roon.

 

Are there are some recommendations for witch kernel to use (with botic) to preserve the power down protection by the installed battery. And how would I test it without destroying my BBB by try and error. I would have to power the player down by mains switch without performing an power down sequence (ie over ssh or power bouton on BBB). ATM if the BBB sees power loss it starts power down sequence with battery power (sorry I am Linux noob)

 

What are the best options regarding sound quality?

 

Thx

 

Branko

Hi Branko,
 

the kernels that you can use with botic are those that bear the words botic, rt and not rt.

the botic shutdown procedure doesn't work with all of them, so 
you have to test which one it works with.

you don't have to modify the uenv.text file

the first time you start gp-update

[Branko]

Hello,

 

thank you for the infos.

 

Regarding the "shutdown procedure": how would I test if it is present/working? Try and error is to risky

 

Thx

Branko

[antonellocaroli]

1 hour ago, Branko said:

Hello,

 

thank you for the infos.

 

Regarding the "shutdown procedure": how would I test if it is present/working? Try and error is to risky

 

Thx

Branko

I didn't quite understand the question...

can you turn off web-interface
or shell (shutdown -h now)
or by simply cutting the power

[Branko]

17 minutes ago, antonellocaroli said:

I didn't quite understand the question...

can you turn off web-interface
or shell (shutdown -h now)
or by simply cutting the power

 

Hello, 

 

As I understood the "shutdown procedure" with protection battery: if the hardware (BBB) looses mains power before the correct shutdown was performed it could be "destroyed". Therefor the "shutdown procedure" holds power (if main power goes away) and performs a "save" shutdown (by "emulating" a shutdown button press). 

 

Now I would like to test if this functionality is present. But shell shutdown don't gives me this information (it works but battery protection is not necessary). Simply cutting power I fear to damage the BBB? 

 

Is there any other save way to test if the procedure is present and working.

 

Regards

Branko

[bluesman]

20 hours ago, The Computer Audiophile said:

Welcome to AS Branko. You may find some info in this article, otherwise keep asking and I’m sure someone will have the answer. 

 

Hi & welcome!  I'm the author of that article, but I'm sorry to say that there's nothing at all in it about Gentoo Linux, GentooPlayer, or Botic.  The next "chapter" in this series (completed and soon to be published) focuses on ARM-based operating systems for audiophiles, but it too lacks info on Gentoo, GentooPlayer and Botic.  The main reasons that I didn't evaluate and include this combo are

1. Gentoo Linux is not popular with audiophiles who want to boot and forget their OS - it takes a bit more work than many
2. this series is about finding value in computer audio equipment, and the Twisted Pear kits I've seen are a) costly & b) kits
   1. Reviews of their stuff over the last several years suggest very fine sound quality that doesn't appeal to everyone
   2. Some of their kits are well over $USD500, for which you can get some very fine DACs with great sound & specs in housings that are much more attractive than most homemade or generic commercial cases.
   3. Only if SQ is better than that from attractive, assembled devices at or above their cost would they represent great value
3. both Gentoo and Botic appear to be more than a little finicky on BBB per posts & disclaimers like these on bbb.ieero.com:
   1. "Using BBB without external clocks the audio files with 44.1kHz, 88.2kHz or 176.4kHz sampling frequencies will be resampled to multiples of 48kHz. This might/will introduce hearable artifacts."
   2. "I do not recommend to use direct I2S or I2C connection between DAC and BBB. Such connection does not provide necessary protection to BBB. One should use something like cape with isolators. Otherwise be prepared that your BBB might be destroyed."
4. There are many great and simple Linux distros for the BBB with some fine audiophile players.  MPD on Debian sounds quite fine into a good USB DAC to most audiophiles who either don't want to spend a lot more or don't think there's a commensurate improvement in SQ at much higher cost.  I agree with them.
5. Roon Bridge works fine on a BBB running Debian - I'm listening to exactly that right now while preparing this post.  The 'bone doesn't have sufficient USB power for many DACs, so I use a powered hub or a separate PS.

The Twisted Pear Buffalo-IIIsePro-28 may be outstanding, but it costs more than many others of similar spec. I plan to include it in a value-based DAC review and comparison to follow the article I'm preparing now on getting the most audio utility out of SBCs like a Pi, BBB, etc as soon as I save up the money to buy a few more pieces for review. I've bought current units from SMSL, iFi, M-Audio and a few others in the well-under-$500 category.  But the Twisted Pear pieces are at the top of or slightly above that category. I'm trying to find a friend with one I can borrow rather than buy, since the hassles of reselling after testing are becoming burdensome. If I succeed (or my wife is feeling generous), I'll include one.

 

GentooPlayer may be great and Botic Linux may be a wonderful choice for the 'bone - I don't know because I haven't tried it.  So I just downloaded the current image and will see how well it performs for me.  

[DomieMic65]

Hi @antonellocaroli

 

In web interface - news I see this: "09.03.20 A new version of eeprom driver for Rpi is available v.5.0.2"

While updating my player rpi3B+ I saw only rpi4 mentioned in the text while the update was going on... 

Is this update only for rpi4?

If yes ... (fortunately) it seems that my 3b+ works OK after the update!

[antonellocaroli]

27 minutes ago, DomieMic65 said:

Hi @antonellocaroli

 

In web interface - news I see this: "09.03.20 A new version of eeprom driver for Rpi is available v.5.0.2"

While updating my player rpi3B+ I saw only rpi4 mentioned in the text while the update was going on... 

Is this update only for rpi4?

If yes ... (fortunately) it seems that my 3b+ works OK after the update!

on rpi4 updates the specific driver,
on rpi3 you can do it anyway, it doesn't have a specific effect...but it fixes a small bug.