guilders Posted May 19, 2021 Share Posted May 19, 2021 what is the difference with the new kernels CK ? Are they better than RT ? Link to comment
zackthedog Posted May 19, 2021 Share Posted May 19, 2021 5 hours ago, the_bat said: Understood. I think I prefer GMrender to UPMPDCLI/MPD but I may be in a minority. I'll do some experimenting. Thanks. Alan I'd like to try this too on Allo Bridge. As I understand, I need to *uninstall* unneeded software to make room for it, is that right? Link to comment
the_bat Posted May 19, 2021 Share Posted May 19, 2021 I believe you only need to uninstall software if you'e trying to use GMRender withthe ram system. Even then results don't seem to be guaranteed. It works fine in "normal" mode by just installing the software. As Antonello says, it takes quite a time to install. Link to comment
zackthedog Posted May 19, 2021 Share Posted May 19, 2021 34 minutes ago, the_bat said: I believe you only need to uninstall software if you'e trying to use GMRender withthe ram system. Even then results don't seem to be guaranteed. It works fine in "normal" mode by just installing the software. As Antonello says, it takes quite a time to install. Ah, that's helpful, thanks! Link to comment
zackthedog Posted May 22, 2021 Share Posted May 22, 2021 On 5/19/2021 at 12:59 PM, zackthedog said: Ah, that's helpful, thanks! I got GmRenderer installed and working fine on the Allo. I think it is more transparent than MPD/UpMpdCli. Very nice. Link to comment
jeep972 Posted May 23, 2021 Share Posted May 23, 2021 i confirm gmrenderer: fantastic sound !!! Link to comment
KenMoreira Posted May 23, 2021 Share Posted May 23, 2021 Curious, GMrender is pre installed on my Allo with dietpi. Not sure why you guys are having to install it? Link to comment
zackthedog Posted May 23, 2021 Share Posted May 23, 2021 14 minutes ago, KenMoreira said: Curious, GMrender is pre installed on my Allo with dietpi. Not sure why you guys are having to install it? My understanding is that gentooplayer can load the entire OS into ram for operation, but GMrenderer is too large to accomodate this on some boards. Since it precludes running the system in ram on the Allo, you must choose to install it knowing it will limit other features. But someone correct me if I'm wrong. Link to comment
KenMoreira Posted May 23, 2021 Share Posted May 23, 2021 Benefit of ram vs on ad cards? Link to comment
antonellocaroli Posted May 24, 2021 Author Share Posted May 24, 2021 Since someone likes the way GStreamer libraries sound, I created two scripts to use them as players. They can be found in Utilities. Player dir and Player radio. Player dir, if you have created and enabled a ramdiskmusic, copies the files to the ram first and then plays them, otherwise it plays them directly from the directory. GentooPlayer home Facebook Documentation Link to comment
rettib2001 Posted May 24, 2021 Share Posted May 24, 2021 Hi, What Kernel(s) are people using with Allo Usbridge Signature's? I still can't get DSD upsampling to play back without stuttering via Hqplayer NAA or Audrivana UPNP. Thanks! Link to comment
Popular Post Zauurx Posted May 25, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted May 25, 2021 16 hours ago, rettib2001 said: Hi, What Kernel(s) are people using with Allo Usbridge Signature's? I still can't get DSD upsampling to play back without stuttering via Hqplayer NAA or Audrivana UPNP. Thanks! Hi, For me : Profile3 RamSystem Mode 1 Free memory: 422MB of total 964MB 5.10.14-GentooPlayer-MIN-NOGRAPH+ But I'm still on version 5.10.22 and I'm a little too lazy to upgrade to version 6.0. At this level of quality, another gain to be hoped for ?? Maybe in the management of IPV6 (latency) .. but I do not see. Am at 1ms (from the HQP server under Win10). The RT kernels don't work with the Allo and I haven't seen an update in 6.0 version. rettib2001 and chipvn 1 1 ROON + HQP / Hdplex H3-i5 + 400ATX >Gustard A26 (NAA twk) > SQM > Benchmark AHB2 / Recital Audio Illumine HEFA Link to comment
rettib2001 Posted May 26, 2021 Share Posted May 26, 2021 22 hours ago, Zauurx said: Hi, For me : Profile3 RamSystem Mode 1 Free memory: 422MB of total 964MB 5.10.14-GentooPlayer-MIN-NOGRAPH+ But I'm still on version 5.10.22 and I'm a little too lazy to upgrade to version 6.0. At this level of quality, another gain to be hoped for ?? Maybe in the management of IPV6 (latency) .. but I do not see. Am at 1ms (from the HQP server under Win10). The RT kernels don't work with the Allo and I haven't seen an update in 6.0 version. Thanks/merci for the suggestions, I’ll given them a try! Link to comment
chipvn Posted May 26, 2021 Share Posted May 26, 2021 @antonellocaroli I have tried 5.10.33- CK-Min-Nograph kernel on my USBridge Signature and it works well. Might find sometime to compare with the standard Min-Nograph kernel to see if I could detect any sound difference or not (which I believe will be very subtle if there is any). Understood CK kernel latency is lower than standard kernel, have you test the CK kernel vs ST and RT kernel yet? RoonROCK: NUC8i5 Akasa case > HQPlayer OS in HDPlex H3V3 case - i7-14700K > Oratek TOFU Raspberry Pi CM4 - Jussi's NAA OS > Holo Spring 3 L2 DAC with Preamp > DIY EL84PP amp > Snell Type E/III speakers Ubiquiti EdgerouterX SFP / Sonore Optical Module / Linear Power Supply for all Link to comment
altsouza Posted May 26, 2021 Share Posted May 26, 2021 7 hours ago, chipvn said: @antonellocaroli I have tried 5.10.33- CK-Min-Nograph kernel on my USBridge Signature and it works well. Might find sometime to compare with the standard Min-Nograph kernel to see if I could detect any sound difference or not (which I believe will be very subtle if there is any). Understood CK kernel latency is lower than standard kernel, have you test the CK kernel vs ST and RT kernel yet? Hi, I am using also the Min-nograph kernel on my USB Signature. I am looking for recomandation for others Kernels. Thanks Antonio Link to comment
zackthedog Posted May 29, 2021 Share Posted May 29, 2021 Using GP 6 on Allo USB Sig with Audirvana. GMrenderer will not play DSD. Is there something that will fix this? Thanks! Link to comment
clipper Posted May 29, 2021 Share Posted May 29, 2021 On 5/26/2021 at 1:55 PM, altsouza said: Hi, I am using also the Min-nograph kernel on my USB Signature. I am looking for recomandation for others Kernels. Thanks Antonio My favorite with the USBridge Signature is RT-MIN-NOGRAPH-EUP100. Link to comment
falco henri Posted May 29, 2021 Share Posted May 29, 2021 19 minutes ago, clipper said: My favorite with the USBridge Signature is RT-MIN-NOGRAPH-EUP100. Hi, RT kernel doesn t work with an allo usbridge SIG. All RT kernel doesn t work properly with the allo usbridge SIG. Link to comment
falco henri Posted May 29, 2021 Share Posted May 29, 2021 The best kernel with an allo usbridge SIG is min nograph. Don t waste your Time searching another... Link to comment
clipper Posted May 29, 2021 Share Posted May 29, 2021 26 minutes ago, falco henri said: Hi, RT kernel doesn t work with an allo usbridge SIG. All RT kernel doesn t work properly with the allo usbridge SIG. Hi. RT kernels work perfectly for me (and my USBridge Signature devices). I have been using RT-MIN-NOGRAPH-EUP100 with the USBridge Signature in various versions of GentooPlayer since 2019. I have tried the other RT kernels and they work fine too. Maybe there's something else in your setup or network that is giving you trouble. What issues do you have when you run a RT kernel? Stuttering? Link to comment
falco henri Posted May 29, 2021 Share Posted May 29, 2021 I m using Audirvana or Roon on a PC with UPNP or RAAT streaming to the allo usbridge SIG with ethernet câble and with RT kernels some glitches appears playing a track... This is an issue well Know with the allo usbridge SIG... That s strange that you dont have these troubles on tour système. Link to comment
antonellocaroli Posted May 29, 2021 Author Share Posted May 29, 2021 4 hours ago, zackthedog said: Using GP 6 on Allo USB Sig with Audirvana. GMrenderer will not play DSD. Is there something that will fix this? Thanks! this is a problem with gstreamer. Gstreamer's uridecodebin fails when the DSD/DSF file is on the network, but works for local files. The streamer you send via audirvana is always on the network and not local. If you try to play a dsd file directly with Utility > Play Dir You will see that it works. GentooPlayer home Facebook Documentation Link to comment
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