Sonore opticalRendu

[davide256]

6 hours ago, RichardK said:

Hi @davide256

 

thanks for your post.It  seems we share a similar goal  🙂

 

I am replacing a combined Streamer  DAC. RaspberryPI Streamer 4x 1794 Non Oversampling  DAC  with an EtherREGEN in front of it with an AudioQuest Diamond Ethernet.Upstreamm the EtherREGEN is connected through optical fiber to an opticalModule

 

I bought  a Topping D90 MQA and liked it so much I want to buy  the opticalRendu and sell the old DAC and keep the D90. 

I have the feeling I will not need my EtherREGEN anymore with the opticalModule in front. What do you think?

 

Hard to know. A used catalyst switch with SFP port isn’t that expensive to trial for comparison. I’m having noise issues from my NUC because the DC power supply is in common with the pre/amp, am starting to think about alternatives

[FileMakerDev]

10 hours ago, RichardK said:

@FileMakerDevThat is a very nice configuration. Can I safely assume there were good reasons to take the better components?

 

 

Actually, it was a gamble based on Farad's reputation. I'm happy, but I never heard an unenhanced unit to compare it against. I was happy enough with the first one that when I ordered the second, I told them "just give me the exact same thing you gave me last time".

[FileMakerDev]

9 hours ago, davide256 said:

Would love to know what you were using before the opticalRendu?

 

I've been a happy Small Green Computer / Sonore customer for ten years... first I bought a VBA in 2010, then when it became available a microRendu, then when it became available an ultraRendu, and now an opticalRendu. Each Rendu has been a revelation.

[FileMakerDev]

5 hours ago, simonp said:

You still use a Iso Regen while the opticalrendu is isolated.  How big is the impact in sq behind the opticalrendu?

 

 

As a test, the other night I took the ISO-Regen out of my system for a few minutes. I quickly put it back in. Each component in my digital chain makes an additive contribution including the Lush^2 USB cables. I would have trouble quantifying the difference, but I do find music more enjoyable w/ the ISO-R in my system... and not "maybe", but "definitely"... regardless of what theory might suggest. Like many of us here, I've been engaged in this hobby/obsession for a very long time, and everything about my system is intentional.

[simonp]

In my setup I had the same cconclusion with the Ultrarendu and the iso regen. I will try it with the opticalrendu. But frist sell the Ultrarendu..

Thanks for your reply

[RichardK]

I have a switch with SFP ports and I would like to connect the opticalRendu using either opticalModule or uptone EtherREGEN (RJ45 from switch to eR with high quality cable) and then fiber cable directly to the opticalRendu. Anyone has any experience comparing these two options and a preference?

[Foggie]

1 hour ago, RichardK said:

I have a switch with SFP ports and I would like to connect the opticalRendu using either opticalModule or uptone EtherREGEN (RJ45 from switch to eR with high quality cable) and then fiber cable directly to the opticalRendy. Anyone has any experience comparing these two options and a preference?

I have a similar config and run a ~60ft optical cable directly from managed switch in util room to listening room direct to OR.  There is no go to answer unfortunately.  All the products you mentioned are of very high quality with great support. 

 

I think most would agree the components that make up your rig are usually very system dependent.  What I have found based on direct experience + usage is the difference between fiber and Ethernet are quite noticeable (IMHO, in my rig) and comes down to system and personal preference IMO.  Vocals + piano + acoustic guitar are usually easy to hear those differences and to categorize those in a general or descriptive sense, I sort of think of the Ethernet signature as softer vs the clarity / speed of optical.

 

The ER had a positive impact when using Ethernet only but that delta when running fiber only not as much IME (due to fiber inherent isolation).  That's not to say the ER in an all fiber connection scheme wouldn't provide its intended benefits, but that's really for the indiv to determine.

 

The one config I would still like to test, which I couldn't at the time, is an OM (connected with short eth cable at switch) directly to OR.  When I had an OM it didn't work in my system due to how the OM handled flow control. 

 

 

[Ultrarunner]

9 hours ago, RichardK said:

I have a switch with SFP ports and I would like to connect the opticalRendu using either opticalModule or uptone EtherREGEN (RJ45 from switch to eR with high quality cable) and then fiber cable directly to the opticalRendy. Anyone has any experience comparing these two options and a preference?

I replaced my opticalModule with an EtherRegen, to connect to my opticalRendu. Worthwhile, in my opinion. 

[RichardK]

Hi all, 

received my opticalRendu today. Worked well straight out of the box but after half an hour complained on the streaming speed (Roon) and stopped playing. restarted the machine. Started playing agian and after a few minutes same issue. Now it does not even seem to come up. Any thoughts or suggestions would be highly appreciated...

[RichardK]

Just found out that this only happens on the B-side of my EetherREGEN that is connected to it. Works well on the A-side. I am puzzled...

 

[André Gosselin]

19 minutes ago, RichardK said:

Just found out that this only happens on the B-side of my EetherREGEN that is connected to it. Works well on the A-side. I am puzzled...

 

How is your opticalrendu connected to the EtherRegen on the A-side (through SFP?) or on the B-side ? If you are using an optical module between the opticalrendu and the ER, remember this will not work if the optical module is connected to the ER B-side. Remember the optical module is 1 Gbit only, and the ER B-side is 100 Mbit only.

[RichardK]

@André Gosselin thanks for your reply. I switched everything  off and put the networkcable in a different port in the main switch and that seemed to help. I guess the network was confused because of me changing things. I also have an opticalModule that I connected. I have to say that EtherREGEN seems to have a stronger effect on the sound quality than the opticalModule. The sound of the opticalRendu is now very dynamic and super clean

 

[André Gosselin]

4 minutes ago, RichardK said:

@André Gosselin thanks for your reply. I switched everything  off and put the networkcable in a different port in the main switch and that seemed to help. I guess the network was confused because of me changing things. I also have an opticalModule that I connected. I have to say that EtherREGEN seems to have a stronger effect on the sound quality than the opticalModule. The sound of the opticalRendu is now very dynamic and super clean

 

It would be interesting to know how the ER, opticalrendu and optical module were hooked up together, and now.Can you give clear info on that ?

[RichardK]

@André GosselinI never have both simultaneously. So either the opticalModule or the EtherREGEN was used at a specific moment.

The chain: Internetmodem- Fiber cable - Switch - AudioQuest Diamond RJ45 - OpticalModule (or EtherREGEN) - Fiber Cable - opticalRendu

 

[RichardK]

Anyone knows what the expected burn-in time is for the opticalRendu? Appears a bit cold for the moment after my first impressions

 

[camott]

I just bought a traded-in OpticalRendu from the Music Room. But it looks like it's actually an OpticalRendu lite for Roon as per the current 2.8 OS. Thing is that the original label from SMG says "Sonore opticalRendu" and not lite/roon. And the case is black - I thought all Roon Lite versions were silver? (I used to own one of those but I now want NAA playback). I assume it's a waste of my time and $29 to order the 2.8 OS for regular OpticalRendu and see if it works ... ? :( Otherwise I will just return it. Thanks to anyone for any input.

[barrows]

20 minutes ago, camott said:

I just bought a traded-in OpticalRendu from the Music Room. But it looks like it's actually an OpticalRendu lite for Roon as per the current 2.8 OS. Thing is that the original label from SMG says "Sonore opticalRendu" and not lite/roon. And the case is black - I thought all Roon Lite versions were silver? (I used to own one of those but I now want NAA playback). I assume it's a waste of my time and $29 to order the 2.8 OS for regular OpticalRendu and see if it works ... ? :( Otherwise I will just return it. Thanks to anyone for any input.

What makes you think it is a "lite"?

[camott]

10 minutes ago, barrows said:

What makes you think it is a "lite"?

Oh because the OS boots up as "opticalRendu Roon" and I can't install anything other than Roon .... I know it's extremely unlikely, but I just had this tiny hope that someone had mistakenly installed the Roon specific version of the SonicOrbiter OS on to a standard OR ... 

[barrows]

11 minutes ago, camott said:

Oh because the OS boots up as "opticalRendu Roon" and I can't install anything other than Roon .... I know it's extremely unlikely, but I just had this tiny hope that someone had mistakenly installed the Roon specific version of the SonicOrbiter OS on to a standard OR ... 

Ah, OK then, you are probably right.  Can you confirm @vortecjr?

[vortecjr]

Email me at [email protected] so we can check some things and figure out what it is. 

 

[vortecjr]

So you know...the unit the customer bought was a Roon Ready only unit.  Buying used can be tricky business so always ask for detailed information and return policy.

[vkennedy]

@barrows If you decide you want to sell the Roon Optical Rendu, please let me know, I may be interested.

[coldbru]

Hi there.  I’m traveling, and my buddy is trying to use my (newly purchased but used ) Optical Rendu.  It shows up on the network and seems fine running USB to a Gustard X26 Pro DAC but, all things the same, Roon cannot start playback to the same Zone when the Mola Mola Tambaqui is connected instead.
 

Has anyone used OpticalRendu with a Tambaqui? Is there any reason that the OR would have a problem with USB output to *any* DAC? I know the latter answer is ‘No’ but this may be an edge case? 

[barrows]

49 minutes ago, coldbru said:

Hi there.  I’m traveling, and my buddy is trying to use my (newly purchased but used ) Optical Rendu.  It shows up on the network and seems fine running USB to a Gustard X26 Pro DAC but, all things the same, Roon cannot start playback to the same Zone when the Mola Mola Tambaqui is connected instead.
 

Has anyone used OpticalRendu with a Tambaqui? Is there any reason that the OR would have a problem with USB output to *any* DAC? I know the latter answer is ‘No’ but this may be an edge case? 

1.  Does Roon, recognize the Tambaqui?  Roon should be able to "see" the DAC, and list it.

2. Sometimes different powering up sequences are necessary to get the proper handshake between DAC and Renderer (the oR).  I would recommend making sure the Tambaqui is powered up first, then powering up the oR.

[Musikfan]

Hi, did you check or change the Tambaqui's settings when you hooked up the OR?   You might have the Tambaqui preset from Network to USB since you're not using the built in streamer.