KeenObserver Posted December 2, 2018 Share Posted December 2, 2018 It seems that there are constant problems with windows 10. Updates that fail and corrupt data. Bloat. Installing mandatory software and games. Mandatory updates. Etc. It seems like it is no longer your computer. It is microsoft's computer. Boycott Warner Boycott Tidal Boycott Roon Boycott Lenbrook Link to comment
0 Popular Post esldude Posted December 3, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted December 3, 2018 7 hours ago, KeenObserver said: It seems that there are constant problems with windows 10. Updates that fail and corrupt data. Bloat. Installing mandatory software and games. Mandatory updates. Etc. It seems like it is no longer your computer. It is microsoft's computer. That right there in red, is why I finally purchased a Macbook Pro last year. I mostly use Linux, but for some accessory items to work without trouble you need Windows or Macbook. There are a couple items that are Windows only which I'll divest myself of in time. Now there are workarounds for nearly all the MS problems. I just got tired of fighting it, and it had become exactly what you said in read above. Like it was my computer once MS finished with their updates, and their updates come first. I no longer wished to have an IT administrators job just to have my own MS computer. My situation is perhaps exacerbated because I do mostly use Linux and only sometimes have the Windows machines on. Even then it just hammered home how much worse MS handles this than Apple or Linux. My Macbook rarely gets used, but opening and using it for a little task I have crop up is no problem at all. marce, wgscott and Jud 1 2 And always keep in mind: Cognitive biases, like seeing optical illusions are a sign of a normally functioning brain. We all have them, it’s nothing to be ashamed about, but it is something that affects our objective evaluation of reality. Link to comment
0 numlog Posted December 3, 2018 Share Posted December 3, 2018 This windows generation is definitely worth it compared to Windows 7. Server2016 gui sounds better than 10 and has most of that stuff stripped away, but you can disable updates fairly easily, infact the majority of services can be disabled without affecting normal PC functionality. lucretius 1 Link to comment
0 KeenObserver Posted December 4, 2018 Author Share Posted December 4, 2018 In the past I have used DOS, OS2, Windows, Linux, and have dabbled in various Unix's. I even had an Alpha chip running on Window's NT. I used that for a time to digitize LP's. There was an Alpha NT driver for one of my high end sound cards. For the past number of years I have had linux machines running. I used them for a number of things, including general browsing on the web. I always had a windows machine available that ran the software that ran on windows. My financial information was transacted on this machine. The Windows machine was behind it's own firewall, had anti-virus installed, and was used when I needed the programs installed on it. I have set up a Windows 7 machine with Jriver 24 as a HTPC. It is primarily a music server, but I am thinking of re-ripping some of my laser discs and loading them to this machine. Some of the laser discs are not available in more recent formats. My thoughts are that by the time Windows 7 support has ended, I will have loaded everything that I am going to load onto this machine. It will be disconnected from the net and will go up to the mountain and be install in my theater. With Windows 7 support ending in a year or so, I have decided to immerse myself in studying Linux for the next year. At that time I will decide if I am going to use Windows 10. It disturbs me to see that big corporations are more and more dictating how there products are used. All of my equipment and machines are an extension of myself. I am their master. They are not my master. Boycott Warner Boycott Tidal Boycott Roon Boycott Lenbrook Link to comment
0 seeteeyou Posted December 4, 2018 Share Posted December 4, 2018 Their OS should be considered some kinda abandonware since they (especially their shareholders?) just couldn't care less about any of that anymore, though plenty of businesses should be "stuck" with that since there's always something that must require Windows to run. Microsoft reports $30.1 billion in Q4 2018 revenue: Azure up 89%, Surface up 25%, and Windows up 7%https://venturebeat.com/2018/07/19/microsoft-reports-30-1-billion-in-q4-2018-revenue-azure-up-89-surface-up-25-and-windows-up-7/ Microsoft reports $29.1 billion in Q1 2019 revenue: Azure up 76%, Surface up 14%, and Windows up 3%https://venturebeat.com/2018/10/24/microsoft-earnings-q1-2019/ Microsoft to business: Don't worry about Windows 10, consumers will test ithttps://www.computerworld.com/article/2878026/microsoft-to-business-dont-worry-about-windows-10-consumers-will-test-it.html Microsoft claims 10 million ‘fans’ help it test Windows 10, but it’s sure got a funny definition of that wordhttps://www.extremetech.com/computing/246685-microsoft-claims-10-million-fans-help-test-windows-10-but-its-sure-got-a-funny-definition-of-that-word Microsoft Bug Testers Unionized. Then They Were Dismissedhttps://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-08-23/microsoft-bug-testers-unionized-then-they-were-dismissed Link to comment
0 rickca Posted December 4, 2018 Share Posted December 4, 2018 Here's another interesting rumor about Microsoft abandoning Edge. It would be a smart move since nobody uses Edge. https://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/3067482/microsoft-is-rumoured-to-be-ditching-edge-in-favour-of-googles-chromium-engine Pareto Audio AMD 7700 Server --> Berkeley Alpha USB --> Jeff Rowland Aeris --> Jeff Rowland 625 S2 --> Focal Utopia 3 Diablos with 2 x Focal Electra SW 1000 BE subs i7-6700K/Windows 10 --> EVGA Nu Audio Card --> Focal CMS50's Link to comment
0 audiventory Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 On 12/3/2018 at 1:30 AM, KeenObserver said: It seems that there are constant problems with windows 10. Updates that fail and corrupt data. Bloat. Installing mandatory software and games. Mandatory updates. Etc. Some issues may be raised, when you use oldest installers (*.iso image or DVD). I had some issues, that I can't fix any known me ways. Long time ago I re-installed fully from newest *.iso image for that time. And it still works and update properly. There some past-update files consume free space. Look for information, how to free space. Windows 10 have latest security updates. Antiviruses and updates are really important now. AuI ConverteR 48x44 - HD audio converter/optimizer for DAC of high resolution files ISO, DSF, DFF (1-bit/D64/128/256/512/1024), wav, flac, aiff, alac, safe CD ripper to PCM/DSF, Seamless Album Conversion, AIFF, WAV, FLAC, DSF metadata editor, Mac & WindowsOffline conversion save energy and nature Link to comment
0 creativepart Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 I was a dedicated window user from 1.0 through Win 7. I always felt that Macs were overpriced and their software kind of out of step with all that was available to Win users. I even ran an Ad Agency that was 100% Win even though all other agencies were Mac based. When Win8 replaced Win 7 I decided to jump ship and moved to Mac. And to tell you the truth Mac OS seems much more like Win 7 than Win 10.1 does. I have two programs that require Windows and for those I run Win 10.1 in a Parallels desktop on the Mac. So, I know and even kind of like Win 10 OK. But I'd never go back to Windows. The jump to Mac Os was super easy and is very old windows like - with none of the "tuesday updates" and bloat-ware. Windows 10 is good - but Mac oS 10 is better. YMMV. Analog: Rega P8 > Ortofon Cadenza Black > Bob's Devices 20:1 SUT > EAR 834P Deluxe MM/MC tube phono stage Digital: Shanling ET-3 CD Transport. Streaming via SoTM SMS200 Ultra Neo w/ SPS500 power supply > Chord Hugo TT2 Sound: PS Audio PowerPlant3 > Naim Supernait3 > Harbeth P3ESR Link to comment
0 cjf Posted December 6, 2018 Share Posted December 6, 2018 Like others, I too keep a few Windows boxes around (Win10) but only for certain pieces of software that live in the Windows realm exclusively. All the pieces of software I am referring to are luckily ones that I have no need to interact with on a daily basis. I can tell you it took quite a bit of work to get those WIN 10 boxes I do have to actually "somewhat" behave. The WIN 10 Update/Call Home processes are so intrusive with this version it borders on harassment. If your bored one day take a look into how determined Win10 is to try and report back to the "Mothership" after you block all ports outbound from that WIN 10 machine on your firewall. Observe the logs closely. Its almost comical at its level of determination to try and contact the "Mothership". Well, that is, its only comical until you realize where some of that data is trying to go ? I am married to Ubuntu/Linux 99% of the time. esldude 1 My Audio System -Last Updated May 20 2021 Link to comment
0 rickca Posted December 7, 2018 Share Posted December 7, 2018 On 12/4/2018 at 6:54 PM, rickca said: Here's another interesting rumor about Microsoft abandoning Edge. It's official. Not abandoning Edge, but changing the underlying technology to Chromium. https://www.anandtech.com/show/13689/microsoft-announces-move-to-chromium-for-the-edge-browser Pareto Audio AMD 7700 Server --> Berkeley Alpha USB --> Jeff Rowland Aeris --> Jeff Rowland 625 S2 --> Focal Utopia 3 Diablos with 2 x Focal Electra SW 1000 BE subs i7-6700K/Windows 10 --> EVGA Nu Audio Card --> Focal CMS50's Link to comment
0 PeterSt Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 Lush^3-e Lush^2 Blaxius^2.5 Ethernet^3 HDMI^2 XLR^2 XXHighEnd (developer) Phasure NOS1 24/768 Async USB DAC (manufacturer) Phasure Mach III Audio PC with Linear PSU (manufacturer) Orelino & Orelo MKII Speakers (designer/supplier) Link to comment
0 Miska Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 On 12/7/2018 at 6:22 AM, rickca said: It's official. Not abandoning Edge, but changing the underlying technology to Chromium. https://www.anandtech.com/show/13689/microsoft-announces-move-to-chromium-for-the-edge-browser They finally got rid of Mosaic that was at least underlying tech for IE!? Jud 1 Signalyst - Developer of HQPlayer Pulse & Fidelity - Software Defined Amplifiers Link to comment
0 lucretius Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 Then, maybe with an extension, the new Edge will be able to run Android apps. wgscott 1 mQa is dead! Link to comment
0 Axial Posted December 14, 2018 Share Posted December 14, 2018 Windows 10 Fall 2018 Update has been a tumultuous journey since October 10. Up to the point to say thank you, good bye and get on with the program Microsoft because you are annoying many of your customers. Your customers know best. I don't have to mention all the issues for the last two months because I'm sure that all the Microsoft Windows 10 users here @ Computer Audiophile are already aware, and with the latest being a game of words with Microsoft regarding data privacy...history data collecting. Even when you say NO, Microsoft is still collecting; they don't tell you what you need to do to stop them, of course not. And that, makes Windows 10 a not transparent OS when it comes to trouble-free, privacy, security, and tranquility/peace of mind. Each person has his own experience, knowledge, and no two people are the same. A computer is personal, it is not a boom box you bring @ the beach to go swimming and snorkeling underwater...way of speech. It's a communication device for family and friends to expand knowledge in all peace and advanced evolution in a mature society of protection, security, respect of privacy. ...Basic human rights in the telecommunication world of 2019. But reality is not what we wish to believe. Is Windows 10 worth it more than Linux and Apple? It depends. Ask any knowledgeable person of these three systems and they all have their own various different opinion based on their own personal experience. Me, I don't have that experience, I'm only @ the transition point of the switching board...from Microsoft's canoe to Apple's yacht. _____ Two quick questions: 1. Is there a section for suggestions here @ CA? 2. Like editing posts, deleting posts, all that jazz. Thank you for reading and Happy Holidays. Sound Matters Link to comment
0 Axial Posted December 14, 2018 Share Posted December 14, 2018 Everything Windows 10 I have been keeping track, and for the last two months plus I have been overwhelmed with all the inconveniences from the Fall 2018 Update (Oct. 10). Some of the latest: • https://www.ghacks.net/2018/12/14/here-is-another-reason-to-avoid-check-for-updates-in-windows-10/ • https://www.extremetech.com/computing/282263-microsoft-windows-10-data-collection • https://www.zdnet.com/article/windows-10-microsoft-vows-to-fix-privacy-dashboard-confusion/ Will we ever see Windows 11? Only Microsoft knows for sure. Sound Matters Link to comment
0 One and a half Posted December 14, 2018 Share Posted December 14, 2018 does anyone know what the UNKNOWN OS is? whatever UNKNOWN is, is the alternative to Windows on desktops, since when Windows go down in use, UNKNOWN increases becoming the 2nd most used OS, more than OSX. As a wild guess, probably Ubuntu, since it sure looks like Windows, some familiarity makes it easier. Ubuntu is quite good for a general OS, but there are some programs I've used for years on windows, learning something new is too much trouble. http://gs.statcounter.com/os-market-share/desktop/worldwide AS Profile Equipment List Say NO to MQA Link to comment
0 Axial Posted December 15, 2018 Share Posted December 15, 2018 And don't forget to read the few comments below this short article: ▪ https://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/3068268/windows-10-location-tracking Deduce your own conclusion, you don't need to be an audio and a computer expert here @ Computer Audiophile and neither a rocket scientist. Sound Matters Link to comment
0 Axial Posted December 15, 2018 Share Posted December 15, 2018 There is just no way that I consider myself an advanced Windows 10 user, no way Jose. But here we go I get the Windows 10 Beta releases without ever asking for them. Why? Simply because I'm a normal curious human guy from planet Earth. Yes, I like to know what Windows 10 is up to and check the latest update releases that they download in my computer. I'm getting used by now and I know the routine of things that need to be corrected each and every time. It's not a simple affair and it takes some time before things run smoothly again...I'd say roughly half hour each time. I don't have a high-end computer, just a very modest one with a regular slow hard drive, i5, 8 GB of Ram. I don't know if it would help with a SSD drive (half terabyte), i7, 16GB of Ram, the latest OS version, a price tag of roughly between $1,000 and $3,000+ ● https://www.digitaltrends.com/computing/windows10-check-for-updates/ What about you, are you like me and always clicking on the "Check for Updates" button? I'm not an insider, not a beta tester, just a normal guy no more advanced than my mother, and humanly curious. I just want a smooth ride in life...that's all. Windows 10 is no butter. Sound Matters Link to comment
0 Axial Posted December 16, 2018 Share Posted December 16, 2018 Microsoft's Windows 10 loves to play games with their customers, and why not because those privacy games are what makes Microsoft the leader #1 in collecting their customer's data @ the service of financial advertisement to maintain their good health and wealth. The consequences for real users like us and you? If they would care they wouldn't be numero uno. The best we can do, really? If we still believe in fairy tales we believe anyone everyone and the world we accept is all fine because we have zero power to change the things that are written in the destiny of humanity and of our planet. It takes the energy and will power of way more than thousands of scientists around the world, it takes a miracle of good will from the same people who collect our data and share it with the data sellers of telecommunication. ▪ https://wccftech.com/windows-10-data-collection-microsoft/amp/ Sound Matters Link to comment
0 Ryan Berry Posted December 16, 2018 Share Posted December 16, 2018 Unfortunately, both Microsoft and Apple's OS's have seemed to be getting progressively worse for audio over the past 4-5 years. It pushes me to make a Linux box for audio, but it has it's own problems with having to get everything to work with one another, so there's drawbacks on ease of use. For a Microsoft-base audio PC? I'd probably stick with Windows 7. President Ayre Acoustics, Inc. Link to comment
0 iaval Posted December 16, 2018 Share Posted December 16, 2018 All my home and production PCs are running Windows 7, and it's unlikely to change in near future. By 2020, machines used for internet access will be dualbooted with either Arch Linux or Debian, and maybe my gaming PC would be dualbooted with Win10 along with Win7, but other than that, no plans for migrating to Win10. I have had my share of troubleshooting this excuse for an OS for my clients. Linux is a way to go, but in my case, the transition will take years given the software is not available on the platform Ryan Berry 1 Link to comment
0 look&listen Posted December 16, 2018 Share Posted December 16, 2018 13 minutes ago, Ryan Berry said: Unfortunately, both Microsoft and Apple's OS's have seemed to be getting progressively worse ------ over the past 4-5 years. Link to comment
0 rickca Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 Every Windows 10 feature update (like the messed up October 2018 update) introduces a bunch more buggy, poorly documented infrastructure that makes using it for audio progressively more challenging. Re privacy concerns, have a look at this free program. The developer in Slovenia has been fighting this bloat and telemetry. The comments in his code are sprinkled with F*ck you, Microsoft! The latest version is 1.0.3 dated November 10, 2018. https://www.getblackbird.net/documentation/ Pareto Audio AMD 7700 Server --> Berkeley Alpha USB --> Jeff Rowland Aeris --> Jeff Rowland 625 S2 --> Focal Utopia 3 Diablos with 2 x Focal Electra SW 1000 BE subs i7-6700K/Windows 10 --> EVGA Nu Audio Card --> Focal CMS50's Link to comment
0 Axial Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 Lol, for your own safety ... ▪ https://mspoweruser.com/tip-for-you-own-safety-you-should-never-check-for-updates-in-windows-10/amp/ And if you like to transfer from your iPhone to your PC, Microsoft/Windows 10 makes sure to let you know, plus that a new firmware update is coming up for you. They keep singing the same same old broken tune over and over. No wonder people like to stick with Windows 7. It's like Windows 10 want to control your PC/life. It's like they know what's best for you and tell you how to live your life. They don't listen to their customers, they listen to their bank managers and financial advisors. Sound Matters Link to comment
0 lucretius Posted December 18, 2018 Share Posted December 18, 2018 On 12/14/2018 at 3:00 PM, Axial said: Will we ever see Windows 11? Only Microsoft knows for sure. Windows 10 itself has been through many versions. E.g. 1507, 1511, 1607, 1703, 1709, 1803, 1809, etc. The day Microsoft decides to rename it Windows 11 is the day Microsoft will ask you to pay to upgrade. mQa is dead! Link to comment
0 Axial Posted December 18, 2018 Share Posted December 18, 2018 I know, but the volume control goes to eleven on my hi-fi stereo. _____ Are we Windows 10 Advanced users, now is the time for us ... ▪ https://www-theverge-com.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/www.theverge.com/platform/amp/2018/12/18/18146134/microsoft-windows-10-october-2018-update-available-all-pcs-download?amp_js_v=a2&amp_gsa=1#referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com&amp_tf=From %1%24s&ampshare=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.theverge.com%2F2018%2F12%2F18%2F18146134%2Fmicrosoft-windows-10-october-2018-update-available-all-pcs-download According to Microsoft the Windows 10 October 10 Fall Update is ready (two months plus later). That's why I was asking about Windows 11. ...Just one of the reasons. Sound Matters Link to comment
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It seems that there are constant problems with windows 10. Updates that fail and corrupt data. Bloat. Installing mandatory software and games. Mandatory updates. Etc.
It seems like it is no longer your computer. It is microsoft's computer.
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