MQA The Truth lies Somewhere in the Middle

[sls]

6 minutes ago, jtwrace said:

....to the consumer.  

 

I stand corrected !!

[Sonic77]

MQA brings DRM to the party. ?

[sls]

1 minute ago, Sonic77 said:

MQA brings DRM to the party. ?

 

I'll take a bottle of Chateau Thames Embankment to the MQA Christmas party, if they're still around.

[jtwrace]

4 minutes ago, sls said:

 

Archimago should simply go by the name of Lord Charles Albert. For all I know, he could be a woman. Then, no one would dare criticise his writing.

It's probably @cookiemarenco who did the analysis.  Certainly she can't be a fan of MQA ?

[John_Atkinson]

38 minutes ago, jtwrace said:

Yet you said you the below that you did honor it so you clearly didn't feel that strong about it.  Right?

 

Please don't put words in my mouth. I was asked to honor the preexisting agreement that Tom Gillett would continue to contribute to Stereophile using a pseudonym. I gave my word to Stereophile founder, J. Gordon Holt, and Stereophile's then-publisher, Larry Archibald, that I would do so. When Tom Gillett resigned at the end of 2014, that was the end of my commitment.

 

John Atkinson

Editor, Stereophile

 

[jtwrace]

1 minute ago, John_Atkinson said:

 

Please don't put words in my mouth. I was asked to honor the preexisting agreement that Tom Gillett would continue to constribute to Stereophile using a pseudonym. I gave my word to Stereophile founder, J. Gordon Holt, and Stereophile's then-publisher, Larry Archibald, that I would do so. When Tom Gillett resigned at the end of 2014, that was the end of my commitment.

 

John Atkinson

Editor, Stereophile

 

Exactly, you still allowed it.  

[sls]

4 minutes ago, jtwrace said:

It's probably @cookiemarenco who did the analysis.  Certainly she can't be a fan of MQA ?

 

There was a literary joke buried in there, it may not have escaped, or maybe it wasn't funny.

[jtwrace]

2 minutes ago, sls said:

 

There was a literary joke buried in there, it may not have escaped, or maybe it wasn't funny.

Perhaps my reply was lost too.  Darn e-communication.  ?

[adamdea]

15 minutes ago, adamdea said:

incidentally can anyone (@Mansr?) tell me whether they have been able to reproduce archimago's findings with the hole in the spectrum for the bruno mars track?

was this by @Jim Austin?

https://www.audioasylum.com/cgi/t.mpl?f=hirez&m=289769

[sls]

On the subject of the MQA Christmas party, how do you say "Jbara" under the influence of alcohol?  I'm not sure I'd get past the introduction.

[Shadders]

55 minutes ago, jabbr said:

This is all laughable ... particularly because everything that needs to be known about “deblurring” in every axis was developed decades ago... and trust me our universities & national labs & govt’s ability to deblur data in the 1960s, 1970s, and 1980s was vastly better than the MQA child’s play — that’s why they don’t want to open up the technology to be exposed to ... loud yawning & snoring from the audience.

Hi,

In fact reverse of dispersion was known by Newton.

 

https://physics.stackexchange.com/questions/171146/is-it-possible-to-implement-the-reversed-dispersion-of-a-white-light-beam-and-ho

 

What MQA are claiming is that they know the dispersal characteristics of every cable/mic/ADC etc., and applied the algorithm to perfectly reverse dispersion of each track. I do not believe that their system can do this. All it can do is perform an approximation.

 

Regards,

Shadders.

[sls]

2 minutes ago, jtwrace said:

Perhaps my reply was lost too.  Darn e-communication.  ?

 

She's a one bit woman. The only thing she folds is her laundry.

[Sonic77]

Don't throw stones if you live in a glass house. Just sayin....

[jtwrace]

3 minutes ago, Sonic77 said:

Don't throw stones if you live in a glass house. Just sayin....

pretty sure it wasn't meant in that context.  @sls

[cookiemarenco]

2 minutes ago, sls said:

 

She's a one bit woman. The only thing she folds is her laundry.

You guys are pretty funny!  :)  and what gives you the idea I fold my laundry?  LOL   ;)

 

Here's something to piss everyone off... a $12 single.  :)  An credible live performance of I'm on Fire... amazing.  Recorded live, without overdubs to DSD256... Meghan Andrews..  the guitar sound is heaven.

https://bluecoastmusic.com/meghan-andrews/fire-single

 

Or... how about this... Devil Dub....   Reggae dub from 20 years ago remastered for today.

https://bluecoastmusic.com/devil-dub/devil-dub

 

Coupon code

DUB20

for a 20% discount.

 

Enjoy!

and oh... I have no opinion on MQA...  I can't find anyone to actually encode our music to test what it does.  :)

 

Cookie Marenco

Blue Coast Music

[mansr]

25 minutes ago, adamdea said:

incidentally can anyone (@Mansr?) tell me whether they have been able to reproduce archimago's findings with the hole in the spectrum for the bruno mars track?

It is trivially done with just about any MQA track. Here's a graph I posted on this site about a year ago:

 

[Hugo9000]

1 hour ago, John_Atkinson said:

 

Why not? I have published letters very critical of MQA, and have expressed my own criticisms and reservations. However, the author would not be able to hide behind an anonymous handle or a pseudonym. And they would have to fully disclose their professional affiliations.

 

John Atkinson

Editor, Stereophile

 

 

1 hour ago, mansr said:

Unless that pseudonym is Sam Tellig.

 

1 hour ago, John_Atkinson said:

 

This has been discussed before on CA. The agreement with Tom Gillett that he would write under the the name "Sam Tellig" was negotiated 2 years before I became Stereophile's editor in 1986. Though it made me uncomfortable, I honored that agreement.

 

John Atkinson

Editor, Stereophile

 

 

51 minutes ago, John_Atkinson said:

 

It's not a tangent as far as Stereophile is concerned, Chris. It's a matter of policy. You're okay with people using pseudonyms, which is your right as owner of this site; with the exception mentioned above, I am not, and this is my right as the person responsible for everything published on Stereophile and on its website.

 

John Atkinson

Editor, Stereophile

 

 

47 minutes ago, jtwrace said:

Yet you said you the below that you did honor it so you clearly didn't feel that strong about it.  Right?

 

 

 

 

 

19 minutes ago, John_Atkinson said:

 

Please don't put words in my mouth. I was asked to honor the preexisting agreement that Tom Gillett would continue to contribute to Stereophile using a pseudonym. I gave my word to Stereophile founder, J. Gordon Holt, and Stereophile's then-publisher, Larry Archibald, that I would do so. When Tom Gillett resigned at the end of 2014, that was the end of my commitment.

 

John Atkinson

Editor, Stereophile

 

Quite a high horse to be on under the circumstances, I'd say.  From 1986 until 2014?  I suppose it's convenient he resigned, or you might still be sacrificing your high principles.

[sls]

2 minutes ago, cookiemarenco said:

You guys are pretty funny!  and what gives you the idea I fold my laundry?  LOL 

 

Here's something to piss everyone off... a $12 single.  An credible live performance of I'm on Fire... amazing.  Recorded live, without overdubs to DSD256... Meghan Andrews..  the guitar sound is heaven.

https://bluecoastmusic.com/meghan-andrews/fire-single

 

Or... how about this... Devil Dub....   Reggae dub from 20 years ago remastered for today.

https://bluecoastmusic.com/devil-dub/devil-dub

 

Coupon code

DUB20

for a 20% discount.

 

Enjoy!

and oh... I have no opinion on MQA...  I can't find anyone to actually encode our music to test what it does. 

 

Cookie Marenco

Blue Coast Music

 

sls is a pseudonym for Steven

 

It was a joke. I have no doubt your laundry is slowly aerated by the warm embrace of a Pacific zephyr and is not manipulated in any manner unbecoming of its virtue. Mine's done by a lovely Polish girl called Anna.

[FredericV]

1 minute ago, mansr said:

It is trivially done with just about any MQA track. Here's a graph I posted on this site about a year ago:

 

 

Some shills got so mad because of this graph ...

[christopher3393]

14 hours ago, Lee Scoggins said:

Goodnight.

 

 

[crenca]

Just now, Hugo9000 said:

 

Quite a high horse to be on under the circumstances, I'd say.  From 1986 until 2014?  I suppose it's convenient he resigned, or you might still be sacrificing your high principles.

BAAAHHHHH!

 

JA is in a tough spot, he has to sell MQA, and that shit does not sell itself.  On the other hand, consumers have it easy - we have reality on our side.  We can lose an argument, many arguments.  We can be shouted down at a seminar, or many seminars.  The whole "industry" and trade publication apparatus can be for MQA, but its tough, really really tough, to sell a lie...

[jtwrace]

10 minutes ago, cookiemarenco said:

You guys are pretty funny!  and what gives you the idea I fold my laundry?  LOL 

 

Here's something to piss everyone off... a $12 single.  An credible live performance of I'm on Fire... amazing.  Recorded live, without overdubs to DSD256... Meghan Andrews..  the guitar sound is heaven.

https://bluecoastmusic.com/meghan-andrews/fire-single

 

Or... how about this... Devil Dub....   Reggae dub from 20 years ago remastered for today.

https://bluecoastmusic.com/devil-dub/devil-dub

 

Coupon code

DUB20

for a 20% discount.

 

Enjoy!

and oh... I have no opinion on MQA...  I can't find anyone to actually encode our music to test what it does. 

 

Cookie Marenco

Blue Coast Music

You're so badass!  Thanks!  

[The Computer Audiophile]

40 minutes ago, adamdea said:

incidentally can anyone (@Mansr?) tell me whether they have been able to reproduce archimago's findings with the hole in the spectrum for the bruno mars track?

 

Here, I just did it.

[loop7]

On 10/8/2018 at 8:44 AM, beerandmusic said:

believe most seasoned presenters would ask that questions and comments be saved for after the presentation.  The fact that Mics were passed around during the presentation suggests that he was open to an open discussion, so i don't believe those that spoke up should be chastised as rude simply for asking questions during the presentation because Chris "allowed" it.

It's a good point but I wonder if the MQA staff would have chimed in regardless if a microphone was offered to the audience from the start. Maybe Chris predicted this.

 

This controversy will likely end up being great for both the presenter and MQA.

[adamdea]

9 minutes ago, mansr said:

It is trivially done with just about any MQA track. Here's a graph I posted on this site about a year ago:

 

Sorry if I’m being thick but is that the same  phenomenon as the Bruno Mars track which looks as though someone has taken a bite out (around 22kHz?)