PeterSt Posted September 19, 2018 Share Posted September 19, 2018 2 minutes ago, mansr said: Are you suggesting the water in the food remembers the size of salt grains after they have dissolved. Where is the suggestion that there's water in the food involved and that the salt dissolves (fully) in the first place ? 4est 1 Lush^3-e Lush^2 Blaxius^2.5 Ethernet^3 HDMI^2 XLR^2 XXHighEnd (developer) Phasure NOS1 24/768 Async USB DAC (manufacturer) Phasure Mach III Audio PC with Linear PSU (manufacturer) Orelino & Orelo MKII Speakers (designer/supplier) Link to comment
PeterSt Posted September 19, 2018 Share Posted September 19, 2018 9 minutes ago, mansr said: If they are dissolved in food during its preparation, there will be no difference. Wrong. The spread in the food is very different for the larger grains vs the smaller, no matter the total weight is equal. Indeed you are no cook. Nobody cares. But of course you are telling the cook that you know better. Good thread. Lush^3-e Lush^2 Blaxius^2.5 Ethernet^3 HDMI^2 XLR^2 XXHighEnd (developer) Phasure NOS1 24/768 Async USB DAC (manufacturer) Phasure Mach III Audio PC with Linear PSU (manufacturer) Orelino & Orelo MKII Speakers (designer/supplier) Link to comment
PeterSt Posted September 19, 2018 Share Posted September 19, 2018 1 hour ago, mansr said: Are you seriously claiming that if 1 gram of salt is dissolved in 1 litre of water and stirred You seem to have the disorder of forming your own prerequisites so you next can claim to be correct on that. If you are interested I can consult Google for the name of that disorder. However, I rather leave that to the real MDs. Very good that you are clear about such a prerequisite this time, because in other occasions you just claim to be right without giving us this context. Good thread. look&listen 1 Lush^3-e Lush^2 Blaxius^2.5 Ethernet^3 HDMI^2 XLR^2 XXHighEnd (developer) Phasure NOS1 24/768 Async USB DAC (manufacturer) Phasure Mach III Audio PC with Linear PSU (manufacturer) Orelino & Orelo MKII Speakers (designer/supplier) Link to comment
PeterSt Posted September 19, 2018 Share Posted September 19, 2018 4 minutes ago, Richard Dale said: No I don't think it was intended to be a satirical joke, I am sure. Lush^3-e Lush^2 Blaxius^2.5 Ethernet^3 HDMI^2 XLR^2 XXHighEnd (developer) Phasure NOS1 24/768 Async USB DAC (manufacturer) Phasure Mach III Audio PC with Linear PSU (manufacturer) Orelino & Orelo MKII Speakers (designer/supplier) Link to comment
PeterSt Posted September 20, 2018 Share Posted September 20, 2018 4 minutes ago, marce said: Instead of dissing measurements and science look into it or provide a possible mechanism yourself for why something causes a change. Ach so. Danke. Lush^3-e Lush^2 Blaxius^2.5 Ethernet^3 HDMI^2 XLR^2 XXHighEnd (developer) Phasure NOS1 24/768 Async USB DAC (manufacturer) Phasure Mach III Audio PC with Linear PSU (manufacturer) Orelino & Orelo MKII Speakers (designer/supplier) Link to comment
PeterSt Posted September 20, 2018 Share Posted September 20, 2018 6 minutes ago, Albrecht said: I am not dissing measurements by any means, - but measurements are largely irrelevant for any consumer But they shouldn't be. If they'd exist though ... (at reasonable cost for those applying them). Lush^3-e Lush^2 Blaxius^2.5 Ethernet^3 HDMI^2 XLR^2 XXHighEnd (developer) Phasure NOS1 24/768 Async USB DAC (manufacturer) Phasure Mach III Audio PC with Linear PSU (manufacturer) Orelino & Orelo MKII Speakers (designer/supplier) Link to comment
Popular Post PeterSt Posted September 21, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted September 21, 2018 4 hours ago, mansr said: 4 hours ago, Superdad said: See, even a blind test across 3 continents (where all 4 participants--not in any communication with each other--chose the same variant out of 4) does not register for folks like you. That's not what anyone would call statistically significant. I was told they heard each other's key strokes. look&listen and lucretius 1 1 Lush^3-e Lush^2 Blaxius^2.5 Ethernet^3 HDMI^2 XLR^2 XXHighEnd (developer) Phasure NOS1 24/768 Async USB DAC (manufacturer) Phasure Mach III Audio PC with Linear PSU (manufacturer) Orelino & Orelo MKII Speakers (designer/supplier) Link to comment
PeterSt Posted September 21, 2018 Share Posted September 21, 2018 33 minutes ago, marce said: I disagree, the effects of passive components in analogue (and digital circuitry) is well known At least you disagree. 43 minutes ago, marce said: and you call us trolls... LOL Some times it depends on the avatar. Lush^3-e Lush^2 Blaxius^2.5 Ethernet^3 HDMI^2 XLR^2 XXHighEnd (developer) Phasure NOS1 24/768 Async USB DAC (manufacturer) Phasure Mach III Audio PC with Linear PSU (manufacturer) Orelino & Orelo MKII Speakers (designer/supplier) Link to comment
PeterSt Posted September 21, 2018 Share Posted September 21, 2018 49 minutes ago, marce said: Reproducing music is engineering, listening to music is pastime and creating music is art,there is a difference. Interesting. So what you explicitly claim is that your engineering leads to fine products you don't need to listen to before they are shipped to the customer. Am I right ? Measuring is sufficient. Correct ? 4est 1 Lush^3-e Lush^2 Blaxius^2.5 Ethernet^3 HDMI^2 XLR^2 XXHighEnd (developer) Phasure NOS1 24/768 Async USB DAC (manufacturer) Phasure Mach III Audio PC with Linear PSU (manufacturer) Orelino & Orelo MKII Speakers (designer/supplier) Link to comment
PeterSt Posted September 21, 2018 Share Posted September 21, 2018 6 minutes ago, marce said: Why are you picking an argument over my posts, strange answers. No, your disagreeing was beyond me. You said you disagree, but I couldn't see on what. Maybe you can. And from there comes the troll (which term you used first). Trolls never agree. OK, with other trolls they do. Lush^3-e Lush^2 Blaxius^2.5 Ethernet^3 HDMI^2 XLR^2 XXHighEnd (developer) Phasure NOS1 24/768 Async USB DAC (manufacturer) Phasure Mach III Audio PC with Linear PSU (manufacturer) Orelino & Orelo MKII Speakers (designer/supplier) Link to comment
PeterSt Posted September 21, 2018 Share Posted September 21, 2018 17 minutes ago, mansr said: The irrational claim is that the differences between components can't be measured. Possibly this is out of context. We-don't-know-how-to. That is something else. Of course you will claim that something which is not there also can't be measured. No ? Lush^3-e Lush^2 Blaxius^2.5 Ethernet^3 HDMI^2 XLR^2 XXHighEnd (developer) Phasure NOS1 24/768 Async USB DAC (manufacturer) Phasure Mach III Audio PC with Linear PSU (manufacturer) Orelino & Orelo MKII Speakers (designer/supplier) Link to comment
PeterSt Posted September 21, 2018 Share Posted September 21, 2018 22 minutes ago, mansr said: The irrational claim is that the differences between components can't be measured. OK, more literal : Of course they can. But this is different from attributing value to it. So a capacitor will show "noise". It may even show a pattern. But that doesn't mean that we can see whether it will sound better or not. For that we need to know quite a lot more. And btw, preferably it sounds still OK after 2 months of being in use. So it is also related to the ambient heat, etc. etc. etc. Nothing much new. But what it comes down to is that we thus must measure "systems" as such. And now we are in trouble ... (kind of). Lush^3-e Lush^2 Blaxius^2.5 Ethernet^3 HDMI^2 XLR^2 XXHighEnd (developer) Phasure NOS1 24/768 Async USB DAC (manufacturer) Phasure Mach III Audio PC with Linear PSU (manufacturer) Orelino & Orelo MKII Speakers (designer/supplier) Link to comment
PeterSt Posted September 21, 2018 Share Posted September 21, 2018 3 minutes ago, rando said: The Christian Science Audio Monitor Ported. Lush^3-e Lush^2 Blaxius^2.5 Ethernet^3 HDMI^2 XLR^2 XXHighEnd (developer) Phasure NOS1 24/768 Async USB DAC (manufacturer) Phasure Mach III Audio PC with Linear PSU (manufacturer) Orelino & Orelo MKII Speakers (designer/supplier) Link to comment
PeterSt Posted September 21, 2018 Share Posted September 21, 2018 No, slitted. Lush^3-e Lush^2 Blaxius^2.5 Ethernet^3 HDMI^2 XLR^2 XXHighEnd (developer) Phasure NOS1 24/768 Async USB DAC (manufacturer) Phasure Mach III Audio PC with Linear PSU (manufacturer) Orelino & Orelo MKII Speakers (designer/supplier) Link to comment
PeterSt Posted September 21, 2018 Share Posted September 21, 2018 Crossed ? Lush^3-e Lush^2 Blaxius^2.5 Ethernet^3 HDMI^2 XLR^2 XXHighEnd (developer) Phasure NOS1 24/768 Async USB DAC (manufacturer) Phasure Mach III Audio PC with Linear PSU (manufacturer) Orelino & Orelo MKII Speakers (designer/supplier) Link to comment
PeterSt Posted September 22, 2018 Share Posted September 22, 2018 2 hours ago, mansr said: The one with the most distortion is likely the dCS or other hyper-expensive product. It is the only way they can be substantially different from a decent design with a reasonable price. Sick. Lush^3-e Lush^2 Blaxius^2.5 Ethernet^3 HDMI^2 XLR^2 XXHighEnd (developer) Phasure NOS1 24/768 Async USB DAC (manufacturer) Phasure Mach III Audio PC with Linear PSU (manufacturer) Orelino & Orelo MKII Speakers (designer/supplier) Link to comment
PeterSt Posted September 22, 2018 Share Posted September 22, 2018 12 hours ago, Sonicularity said: I was referring to the idea that if only a capacitor was swapped that was within 1% tolerance ... meaning ? 12 hours ago, Sonicularity said: but I cannot accept, without more information, that it was simply the result of spraying something on a cap. I suppose the more information can be found in some knowledge about the electrical behavior of capacitors in general. Also see first quote. Lush^3-e Lush^2 Blaxius^2.5 Ethernet^3 HDMI^2 XLR^2 XXHighEnd (developer) Phasure NOS1 24/768 Async USB DAC (manufacturer) Phasure Mach III Audio PC with Linear PSU (manufacturer) Orelino & Orelo MKII Speakers (designer/supplier) Link to comment
PeterSt Posted September 22, 2018 Share Posted September 22, 2018 11 hours ago, mansr said: So you're saying that immeasurable differences result in readily audible changes to the sound. That is simply not plausible. But we are from the Mythbuster's team. Everything is possible. Lush^3-e Lush^2 Blaxius^2.5 Ethernet^3 HDMI^2 XLR^2 XXHighEnd (developer) Phasure NOS1 24/768 Async USB DAC (manufacturer) Phasure Mach III Audio PC with Linear PSU (manufacturer) Orelino & Orelo MKII Speakers (designer/supplier) Link to comment
Popular Post PeterSt Posted September 22, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted September 22, 2018 @The Computer Audiophile, Can we please have @Julf back ? Superdad and wgscott 1 1 Lush^3-e Lush^2 Blaxius^2.5 Ethernet^3 HDMI^2 XLR^2 XXHighEnd (developer) Phasure NOS1 24/768 Async USB DAC (manufacturer) Phasure Mach III Audio PC with Linear PSU (manufacturer) Orelino & Orelo MKII Speakers (designer/supplier) Link to comment
PeterSt Posted September 22, 2018 Share Posted September 22, 2018 10 minutes ago, Jud said: By the same logic The man has no logic. Not even flawed. look&listen 1 Lush^3-e Lush^2 Blaxius^2.5 Ethernet^3 HDMI^2 XLR^2 XXHighEnd (developer) Phasure NOS1 24/768 Async USB DAC (manufacturer) Phasure Mach III Audio PC with Linear PSU (manufacturer) Orelino & Orelo MKII Speakers (designer/supplier) Link to comment
Popular Post PeterSt Posted September 22, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted September 22, 2018 20 minutes ago, Rexp said: Killjoys is the perfect term for this group Yes. And since it is allowed, hell is loose. Also, it is explicitly allowed, so I guess the one who allows it receives joy from it. And there you have a sick forum. Dirt. look&listen and dean70 1 1 Lush^3-e Lush^2 Blaxius^2.5 Ethernet^3 HDMI^2 XLR^2 XXHighEnd (developer) Phasure NOS1 24/768 Async USB DAC (manufacturer) Phasure Mach III Audio PC with Linear PSU (manufacturer) Orelino & Orelo MKII Speakers (designer/supplier) Link to comment
PeterSt Posted September 22, 2018 Share Posted September 22, 2018 40 minutes ago, Le Concombre Masqué said: Maybe mansr could do that comparing 2 of the filters he designed? His "analysers" show the wrong scale. That is too difficult to set right. So forget it. No, this wasn't a 3rd person sentence. Le Concombre Masqué 1 Lush^3-e Lush^2 Blaxius^2.5 Ethernet^3 HDMI^2 XLR^2 XXHighEnd (developer) Phasure NOS1 24/768 Async USB DAC (manufacturer) Phasure Mach III Audio PC with Linear PSU (manufacturer) Orelino & Orelo MKII Speakers (designer/supplier) Link to comment
PeterSt Posted September 22, 2018 Share Posted September 22, 2018 44 minutes ago, Le Concombre Masqué said: That was in one of my first posts and made someone laugh Wasn't one of your first posts about a file requiring burn in ? As in : let it play whole night and the next day it sounds better ? or wasn't that you ? Lush^3-e Lush^2 Blaxius^2.5 Ethernet^3 HDMI^2 XLR^2 XXHighEnd (developer) Phasure NOS1 24/768 Async USB DAC (manufacturer) Phasure Mach III Audio PC with Linear PSU (manufacturer) Orelino & Orelo MKII Speakers (designer/supplier) Link to comment
PeterSt Posted September 22, 2018 Share Posted September 22, 2018 2 minutes ago, pkane2001 said: Well, these have not been detected in measurements in audio realm. Just ask @PeterSt about Lush measurements, and you’ll hear excuse after excuse. I’m still waiting, Peter! They are vanishingly small because measurements don’t show them. John S. has even promised to build some specialized, more sensitive equipment capable of measuring these tiny differences. I’m still waiting on this one, also. Any bookmakers around to put some money to for who wil be the first ? Lush^3-e Lush^2 Blaxius^2.5 Ethernet^3 HDMI^2 XLR^2 XXHighEnd (developer) Phasure NOS1 24/768 Async USB DAC (manufacturer) Phasure Mach III Audio PC with Linear PSU (manufacturer) Orelino & Orelo MKII Speakers (designer/supplier) Link to comment
PeterSt Posted September 22, 2018 Share Posted September 22, 2018 Just now, Le Concombre Masqué said: I would have changed a lot since I find your supposition offending Hold your horses. For many years now I would believe in such a thing and would be able to reason it out. So I was positive towards you. But only if it was you. Was it ? Lush^3-e Lush^2 Blaxius^2.5 Ethernet^3 HDMI^2 XLR^2 XXHighEnd (developer) Phasure NOS1 24/768 Async USB DAC (manufacturer) Phasure Mach III Audio PC with Linear PSU (manufacturer) Orelino & Orelo MKII Speakers (designer/supplier) Link to comment
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