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2 minutes ago, mansr said:

Are you suggesting the water in the food remembers the size of salt grains after they have dissolved.

 

Where is the suggestion that there's water in the food involved and that the salt dissolves (fully) in the first place ?

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9 minutes ago, mansr said:

If they are dissolved in food during its preparation, there will be no difference.

 

Wrong. The spread in the food is very different for the larger grains vs the smaller, no matter the total weight is equal.

Indeed you are no cook. Nobody cares. But of course you are telling the cook that you know better.

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1 hour ago, mansr said:

Are you seriously claiming that if 1 gram of salt is dissolved in 1 litre of water and stirred

 

You seem to have the disorder of forming your own prerequisites so you next can claim to be correct on that. If you are interested I can consult Google for the name of that disorder. However, I rather leave that to the real MDs.

Very good that you are clear about such a prerequisite this time, because in other occasions you just claim to be right without giving us this context.

Good thread.

 

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4 minutes ago, marce said:

Instead of dissing measurements and science look into it or provide a possible mechanism yourself for why something causes a change.

 

Ach so.

Danke.

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6 minutes ago, Albrecht said:

I am not dissing measurements by any means, - but measurements are largely irrelevant for any consumer

 

But they shouldn't be. If they'd exist though ... (at reasonable cost for those applying them).

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33 minutes ago, marce said:

I disagree, the effects of passive components in analogue (and digital circuitry) is well known

 

At least you disagree.

 

43 minutes ago, marce said:

and you call us trolls... LOL

 

Some times it depends on the avatar.

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49 minutes ago, marce said:

Reproducing music is engineering, listening to music is pastime and creating music is art,there is a difference.

 

Interesting.

So what you explicitly claim is that your engineering leads to fine products you don't need to listen to before they are shipped to the customer. Am I right ?

Measuring is sufficient. Correct ?

 

 

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6 minutes ago, marce said:

Why are you picking an argument over my posts, strange answers.

 

No, your disagreeing was beyond me. You said you disagree, but I couldn't see on what. Maybe you can.

And from there comes the troll (which term you used first). Trolls never agree. OK, with other trolls they do.

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17 minutes ago, mansr said:

The irrational claim is that the differences between components can't be measured.

 

Possibly this is out of context. We-don't-know-how-to. That is something else.

Of course you will claim that something which is not there also can't be measured.
No ?

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22 minutes ago, mansr said:

The irrational claim is that the differences between components can't be measured.

 

OK, more literal : Of course they can. But this is different from attributing value to it. So a capacitor will show "noise". It may even show a pattern. But that doesn't mean that we can see whether it will sound better or not. For that we need to know quite a lot more. And btw, preferably it sounds still OK after 2 months of being in use. So it is also related to the ambient heat, etc. etc. etc. Nothing much new.

But what it comes down to is that we thus must measure "systems" as such. And now we are in trouble ... (kind of).

 

 

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2 hours ago, mansr said:

The one with the most distortion is likely the dCS or other hyper-expensive product. It is the only way they can be substantially different from a decent design with a reasonable price.

 

Sick.

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12 hours ago, Sonicularity said:

 I was referring to the idea that if only a capacitor was swapped that was within 1% tolerance

 

... meaning ?

 

12 hours ago, Sonicularity said:

but I cannot accept, without more information, that it was simply the result of spraying something on a cap.

 

I suppose the more information can be found in some knowledge about the electrical behavior of capacitors in general. Also see first quote. :)

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11 hours ago, mansr said:

So you're saying that immeasurable differences result in readily audible changes to the sound. That is simply not plausible.

 

But we are from the Mythbuster's team. Everything is possible.

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40 minutes ago, Le Concombre Masqué said:

Maybe mansr could do that comparing 2 of the filters he designed?

 

His "analysers" show the wrong scale. That is too difficult to set right. So forget it.

 

No, this wasn't a 3rd person sentence.

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44 minutes ago, Le Concombre Masqué said:

That was in one of my first posts and made someone laugh

 

Wasn't one of your first posts about a file requiring burn in ? As in : let it play whole night and the next day it sounds better ? or wasn't that you ?

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2 minutes ago, pkane2001 said:

Well, these have not been detected in measurements in audio realm. Just ask @PeterSt about Lush measurements, and you’ll hear excuse after excuse. I’m still waiting, Peter! ;)

 

 

They are vanishingly small because measurements don’t show them. John S. has even promised to build some specialized, more sensitive equipment capable of measuring these tiny differences. I’m still waiting on this one, also.

 

Any bookmakers around to put some money to for who wil be the first ?

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Just now, Le Concombre Masqué said:

I would have changed a lot since I find your supposition offending

 

Hold your horses. :|

For many years now I would believe in such a thing and would be able to reason it out. So I was positive towards you.

But only if it was you.

 

Was it ?

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