kurb1980 Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 I think what your referring to is the black tabs & I refer to them as jumpers I have a DAC that you adjust gain by placing jumpers over the pins. Link to comment
bluebeat Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 Indeed, black tabs, that's a better description, thanks @kurb1980 And any doubt about what they are doing is taken away, thanks @PeterSt and @Tims Cheers Link to comment
PeterSt Posted January 21, 2019 Author Share Posted January 21, 2019 47 minutes ago, bluebeat said: Indeed, black tabs, The first 20 Lush^2 or so did not go out with tabs on the jumpers. So they are jumpers with tabs. Or jumpers without tabs. Lush^3-e Lush^2 Blaxius^2.5 Ethernet^3 HDMI^2 XLR^2 XXHighEnd (developer) Phasure NOS1 24/768 Async USB DAC (manufacturer) Phasure Mach III Audio PC with Linear PSU (manufacturer) Orelino & Orelo MKII Speakers (designer/supplier) Link to comment
bluebeat Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 9 minutes ago, PeterSt said: The first 20 Lush^2 or so did not go out with tabs on the jumpers. So they are jumpers with tabs. Or jumpers without tabs. Then again, a jumper (in audio) makes a connection, that's not what it does.🙂 Link to comment
Confused Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 On 1/20/2019 at 1:42 PM, PeterSt said: So if you have the original Lush (I can't tell for your "Confused" nick) Lush 2 just ordered - So now you know who I am ..... Windows 11 PC, Roon, HQPlayer, Focus Fidelity convolutions, iFi Zen Stream, Paul Hynes SR4, Mutec REF10, Mutec MC3+USB, Devialet 1000Pro, KEF Blade. Plus Pro-Ject Signature 12 TT for playing my 'legacy' vinyl collection. Desktop system; RME ADI-2 DAC fs, Meze Empyrean headphones. Link to comment
Cornan Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 36 minutes ago, Confused said: Lush 2 just ordered - So now you know who I am ..... We all know! 😁 🎛️ Audio System Link to comment
PeterSt Posted January 21, 2019 Author Share Posted January 21, 2019 35 minutes ago, Confused said: So now you know who I am ..... Big smile. Very nice of you. For most I don't know. Due Wednesday. Peter Cornan 1 Lush^3-e Lush^2 Blaxius^2.5 Ethernet^3 HDMI^2 XLR^2 XXHighEnd (developer) Phasure NOS1 24/768 Async USB DAC (manufacturer) Phasure Mach III Audio PC with Linear PSU (manufacturer) Orelino & Orelo MKII Speakers (designer/supplier) Link to comment
FileMakerDev Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 On 1/20/2019 at 3:08 AM, AmusedToD said: After additional testing this morning, all I can say is that A: B-W-Y-R, B: B-W-R definitely rules them all. It is the most fluid, the most effortless, with great depth and ease, without glare, without a trace of harshness. Beautiful. No wonder the majority chose this configuration. Last night I spent several hours bouncing between three Lush^2 configurations, the above and two others, playing the first 60 seconds of the same tracks ("Blue Motel Room" by Joni Mitchell, "Goodbye Pork Pie Hat" by Jeff Beck) over and over, much to my wife's chagrin. The above is too unfocused on my system... yes it's easy on the ears but at an unacceptable cost. I don't necessarily think A: BWR B: BW is my "ultimate" configuration, but it's the best compromise between focus and sweetness I've found so far. Link to comment
AmusedToD Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 4 minutes ago, FileMakerDev said: Last night I spent several hours bouncing between three Lush^2 configurations, the above and two others, playing the first 60 seconds of the same tracks ("Blue Motel Room" by Joni Mitchell, "Goodbye Pork Pie Hat" by Jeff Beck) over and over, much to my wife's chagrin. The above is too unfocused on my system... yes it's easy on the ears but at an unacceptable cost. I don't necessarily think A: BWR B: BW is my "ultimate" configuration, but it's the best compromise between focus and sweetness I've found so far. It should be A: B-W & Y-R, B: B-W-R, I mistyped it initially. Please try this one and tell us what you think. Link to comment
elcorso Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 14 minutes ago, FileMakerDev said: Last night I spent several hours bouncing between three Lush^2 configurations, the above and two others, playing the first 60 seconds of the same tracks ("Blue Motel Room" by Joni Mitchell, "Goodbye Pork Pie Hat" by Jeff Beck) over and over, much to my wife's chagrin. The above is too unfocused on my system... yes it's easy on the ears but at an unacceptable cost. I don't necessarily think A: BWR B: BW is my "ultimate" configuration, but it's the best compromise between focus and sweetness I've found so far. It is one (among many) of the virtues of Lush ^ 2, it lets you choose, through the almost infinite pinouts, the one that most satisfies your taste and match your gear! Roch Link to comment
FileMakerDev Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 10 minutes ago, AmusedToD said: It should be A: B-W & Y-R, B: B-W-R, I mistyped it initially. Please try this one and tell us what you think. Will do. Link to comment
elcorso Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 15 minutes ago, AmusedToD said: It should be A: B-W & Y-R, B: B-W-R, I mistyped it initially. Please try this one and tell us what you think. How did you achieve A: B-W & Y-R, added another pin coupler ? Thanks, Roch Link to comment
oilpaint Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 As others have said, I simple photo would be very helpful with these different variations of pins, jumpers, etc. Link to comment
Popular Post 89reksal Posted January 21, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted January 21, 2019 1 hour ago, elcorso said: How did you achieve A: B-W & Y-R, added another pin coupler ? From the image above (taken from page one of this thread) you can see the 6 pins on the end of the cable. Any wires connected to pins 1 to 4 will be connected together, such as A: B-W-Y-R, A: B-W-Y, A: B-W, etc. Any wires connected to pins 5 and 6 are NOT connected to pins 1 to 4 as shown by the thin yellow lines below the numbered pins showing the connection configuration, so to achieve A: B-W & Y-R you would connect black and white (B-W) to any of pins 1 to 4 and connect yellow and red (Y-R) to pins 5 and 6. Ideally B and W would connect to pins 1 and 2 with the black plastic spacer connected to pins 3 and 4. Note the red dot on the connector denoting pin 1. alice, elcorso and spotforscott 2 1 Link to comment
elcorso Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 45 minutes ago, lasker98 said: From the image above (taken from page one of this thread) you can see the 6 pins on the end of the cable. Any wires connected to pins 1 to 4 will be connected together, such as A: B-W-Y-R, A: B-W-Y, A: B-W, etc. Any wires connected to pins 5 and 6 are NOT connected to pins 1 to 4 as shown by the thin yellow lines below the numbered pins showing the connection configuration, so to achieve A: B-W & Y-R you would connect black and white (B-W) to any of pins 1 to 4 and connect yellow and red (Y-R) to pins 5 and 6. Ideally B and W would connect to pins 1 and 2 with the black plastic spacer connected to pins 3 and 4. Note the red dot on the connector denoting pin 1. Many thanks, I forgot to read again the instructions !!! Roch Link to comment
FileMakerDev Posted January 22, 2019 Share Posted January 22, 2019 9 hours ago, AmusedToD said: It should be A: B-W & Y-R, B: B-W-R, I mistyped it initially. Please try this one and tell us what you think. On my system Joni's voice is about 5db louder with the above than with A: BWR B: BW It's very dynamic, but I find myself cringing a little when I turn it up. The word that popped into my head in the first few seconds of listening was "Technicolor". My system is already extremely dynamic and bright (845 SET amp, NOS RCA tubes)... I can imagine that on a more laid back system the above might sound fantastic. As per my earlier comment about using one component to balance another, given that my system is aggressive, a "mellow" Lush^2 recipe is a better fit. PeterSt 1 Link to comment
FileMakerDev Posted January 22, 2019 Share Posted January 22, 2019 2 hours ago, marce said: 5dB! Well since I didn't measure, it's just a guess... I could say "significantly louder" instead. Link to comment
Abtr Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 On 1/21/2019 at 8:22 PM, elcorso said: It is one (among many) of the virtues of Lush ^ 2, it lets you choose, through the almost infinite pinouts, the one that most satisfies your taste and match your gear! Roch Actually (if I understand this correctly) there are only 225 electrically different configurations. At each end of the Lush^2 (A or B connector) there are 15 electrically distinct pinouts: B-W-Y-R B-W-Y B-W-R B-Y-R W-Y-R B-W B-Y B-R W-Y W-R Y-R 0 (no shields connected) B-W & Y-R B-Y & W-R B-R & W-Y Any other A or B configuration will be electrically equivalent to one of these 15 configurations. So with two configurable ends we have 15^2 = 225 different configurations. austinpop 1 Current audio system Link to comment
elcorso Posted January 24, 2019 Share Posted January 24, 2019 1 hour ago, Abtr said: Actually (if I understand this correctly) there are only 225 electrically different configurations. At each end of the Lush^2 (A or B connector) there are 15 electrically distinct pinouts: B-W-Y-R B-W-Y B-W-R B-Y-R W-Y-R B-W B-Y B-R W-Y W-R Y-R 0 (no shields connected) B-W & Y-R B-Y & W-R B-R & W-Y Any other A or B configuration will be electrically equivalent to one of these 15 configurations. So with two configurable ends we have 15^2 = 225 different configurations. Thanks for your accuracy! If your calculation is correct then we would have a cost less than one Euro for each possible pinout combination? A bargain ! Roch Link to comment
Popular Post PeterSt Posted January 24, 2019 Author Popular Post Share Posted January 24, 2019 9 hours ago, Abtr said: Actually (if I understand this correctly) there are only 225 electrically different configurations. At each end of the Lush^2 (A or B connector) there are 15 electrically distinct pinouts: It seems mind boggling, but it indeed it is that simple. And I changed the "specs" of Lush^2 but also Blaxius^2, ET^2 and HDMI^2 on it. The Blaxius^2-Digital is even more disappointing : 0 (this is implied B-W, as W is actually in everything, hard-wired) B-Y B-R Y-R B-Y-R This time the 0 does not count as extra possibility on either side (it is always there). This leaves 4 x 4 + 1 = 17. So only a lousy 17 possibilities. Those with two Lush^2 are very lucky. They can still apply 50,625 (225 x 225) permutations. Especially those who are going to try all these are advised to add the 225 possibilities of the Blaxius^2. Now they have 11,390,625 permutations at hand. This is of course only when they apply the left channel and right channel the same. A poor soul like me, using one Lush^2 and a pair of Blaxius^2 also has to deal with 50,625 possibilities. Abtr, thank you very much for pointing out how easy it is. For fun I created the list myself (with the knowledge that I should be able to reach 15 at least ) and a last one missing took me 15-20 minutes to find. Jiffi32 and Abtr 2 Lush^3-e Lush^2 Blaxius^2.5 Ethernet^3 HDMI^2 XLR^2 XXHighEnd (developer) Phasure NOS1 24/768 Async USB DAC (manufacturer) Phasure Mach III Audio PC with Linear PSU (manufacturer) Orelino & Orelo MKII Speakers (designer/supplier) Link to comment
Abtr Posted January 24, 2019 Share Posted January 24, 2019 13 hours ago, PeterSt said: It seems mind boggling, but it indeed it is that simple. And I changed the "specs" of Lush^2 but also Blaxius^2, ET^2 and HDMI^2 on it. The Blaxius^2-Digital is even more disappointing : ... You could add a fourth shield G (green). With the same 4+2 pin connector that would give 47 different electrical configurations per cable end, and 47^2 = 2209 different configurations overall : B-W-Y-R B-W-Y-G B-W-R-G B-Y-R-G W-Y-R-G B-W-Y B-W-R B-W-G B-Y-R B-Y-G W-Y-R W-Y-G Y-R-G R-G-B B-W B-Y B-R B-G W-Y W-R W-G Y-R Y-G 0 (no shields connected) B-W-Y & R-G B-W-R & Y-G B-W-G & Y-R B-Y-R & W-G B-Y-G & W-R W-Y-R & B-G W-Y-G & B-R Y-R-G & B-W R-G-B & W-Y B-W & Y-R B-W & Y-G B-W & R-G B-Y & W-R B-Y & W-G B-Y & R-G B-R & W-Y B-R & W-G B-R & Y-G B-G & W-Y B-G & W-R B-G & Y-R W-Y & R-G Y-R & W-G Cornan 1 Current audio system Link to comment
Popular Post AmusedToD Posted January 24, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted January 24, 2019 12 minutes ago, Abtr said: You could add a fourth shield G (green). With the same 4+2 pin connector that would give 45 different electrical configurations per cable end, and 45^2 = 2025 different configurations overall : B-W-Y-R B-W-Y-G B-W-R-G B-Y-R-G W-Y-R-G B-W-Y B-W-R B-W-G B-Y-R B-Y-G W-Y-R W-Y-G Y-R-G R-G-B B-W B-Y B-R B-G W-Y W-R W-G Y-R Y-G 0 (no shields connected) B-W-Y & R-G B-W-R & Y-G B-W-G & Y-R B-Y-R & W-G B-Y-G & W-R W-Y-R & B-G W-Y-G & B-R Y-R-G & B-W R-G-B & W-Y B-W & Y-R B-W & Y-G B-W & R-G B-Y & W-R B-Y & W-G B-Y & R-G B-R & W-Y B-R & W-G B-R & Y-G B-G & W-Y B-G & W-R B-G & Y-R Hey mate, you want us to go nuts here? PeterSt and Abtr 2 Link to comment
Jiffi32 Posted January 25, 2019 Share Posted January 25, 2019 12 hours ago, Abtr said: You could add a fourth shield G (green). With the same 4+2 pin connector that would give 47 different electrical configurations per cable end, and 47^2 = 2209 different configurations overall : Sort of tempting to add a 'green sheild' to my set of Blaxius^2D🤔 customer server+AudiophileOptimizer >>UltraRendu (SR4) >> Lush(JSSG360) >>> IsoRegen(SR4) >>> Lush^2 >>> blu2 >>Blaxius^2D >> Dave > HD800(SDRmod) Link to comment
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