Popular Post The Computer Audiophile Posted August 10, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted August 10, 2018 Hi Guys - Just got the information. Will update in minutes as I get it collected and make it publishable. Our extensive, thorough, comparative dCS Bartok Review is now available - https://audiophilestyle.com/ca/reviews/dcs-bartók-dac-with-headphone-amplifier-review-r849/ "dCS is pleased to announce the launch of Bartók, a new Upsampling Network DAC. Bartók will be offered in two models: one, a Network Streaming DAC; the other, a Network Streaming DAC with a built-in, discrete Class-A Headphone Amplifier. Additional photography, and the datasheet for the standard version Bartók DAC, will be made available shortly after the conclusion of the Hong Kong High-End Show this weekend Bartók will begin shipping late-October 2018, and MSRP will be $13,500 for the standard Bartók DAC, $15,000 for Bartók DAC with Class-A Headphone Amplifier. Both versions are available in standard anodised silver and black aluminium finish." dCS BARTOK PRESS RELEASE_FINAL.pdf dCS Bartók Headphone DAC_HiRes_V1.pdf The new dCS Bartók DAC brings togetherdCS’s past, present and future. It is first and foremost a state of the art network streaming DAC that uses technology developed for the Rossini range. With the addition of the unique headphone amplifier it brings the extraordinarydCS digital experience to both headphone and stereo listeners. This single-box digital music player features the legendary dCS Ring DACTM and signal processing platform, plus a custom high performance UPnP music streamer. Bartók plays music through an array of industry- standard USB, AES or S/PDIF digital inputs. It is Roon Ready and can stream over Ethernet from a NAS drive or online music services such as TIDAL or Spotify, and from Apple devices via Airplay. The network interface can perform full MQA decoding and rendering. The DAC section is equipped with independent balanced and unbalanced line outputs that can drive power amplifiers directly, avoiding the need for a separate preamplifier. The Headphone DAC features a custom designed headphone amplifier that works extremely well with both high and low impedance headphones in balanced or unbalanced formats. All of the outputs can be set to one of 4 maximum levels to enhance system compatibility. Designed for flexibility and ease of use without compromise, Bartók uses the very latest dCSDigital Processing Platform and Ring DAC technology, originally developed for the Rossini series. Its single FPGA offers streamlined signal processing and superior flexibility, effectively making it future-proof. Bartók DAC has a powerful new user interface, plus a custom control app that lets listeners manage their music playback from any source in an elegantly simple way – accessing iRadio channels, digital and UPnP sources all from one control point. The Bartók app provides easy access to the DAC settings. Featuring DXD upsampling as standard, the multi-stage oversampling design offers optional DSD upsampling plus an extensive selection of DSP filters to suit individual taste and music choice. The network streaming functionality within Bartók is proven in terms of jitter, ease of use and sonic performance. The network interface currently runs at up to 24-bit, 384kS/s and DSD128, supporting all major lossless codecs, plus DSD in DoP format and native DSD. Bartók supports the simple yet highly effectivedCS ‘auto clocking’ architecture as used in Vivaldi, which minimises jitter and improves sound quality significantly. Designed and made in Great Britain to the highest standards, Bartók takes its design cues from the award winning Rossini range, using aerospace-grade machined aluminium with internal acoustic damping panels to reduce sound-degrading mechanical vibration and magnetic effects. Multi-stage power regulation is employed, with twin mains transformers to isolate the DAC circuitry from the headphone amplifier. As with all dCS products, Bartók firmware can be easily updated via CD, USB or the new automated download and update facility. This lets dCS add new features and improve the performance of Bartok over its lifetime. Listening to digital music through a Bartók system is in some ways a staggering experience. The general hallmarks of dCS playback - precision, detail, immersive and engaging sound are all there along with a natural musicality and faithfulness to the original recording. miguelito, Madra, asdf1000 and 1 other 1 3 Founder of Audiophile Style | My Audio Systems Link to comment
One and a half Posted August 10, 2018 Share Posted August 10, 2018 Doesn't this device make up for the shortcomings of the Network Bridge. Any step for the price to head south is a welcome move from dcs, the offering for the HP amp free is a good idea, since most head-fi'ers by now have an amp already, and those that don't, the price differential would make a separate amp that more enticing/affordable. The Ethernet loop through is a welcome addition, hopefully easy to configure. Would have been nice to have a FO connector, oh well, can't have everything. It's a little while to October, by the New Year anyway, there should be experiences to share on the SQ. asdf1000 1 AS Profile Equipment List Say NO to MQA Link to comment
firedog Posted August 11, 2018 Share Posted August 11, 2018 Not sure how it makes up for the lack of USB out in the Bridge for those who wanted it. It's a DAC with analog, not digital outs. Bridge owners are highly likely to have a great DAC already, possibly even a dCS one. I don't know how good the DAC in this device is relative to other dCS DACs or other high end DACs. If the internal DAC is very good maybe someone with a dCS Bridge and DAC could trade for this component. But based on the price and the fact that it's a multi-function unit, I'm guessing it isn't quite up to the level of the other dCS DACs. Main listening (small home office): Main setup: Surge protector +>Isol-8 Mini sub Axis Power Strip/Isolation>QuietPC Low Noise Server>Roon (Audiolense DRC)>Stack Audio Link II>Kii Control>Kii Three (on their own electric circuit) >GIK Room Treatments. Secondary Path: Server with Audiolense RC>RPi4 or analog>Cayin iDAC6 MKII (tube mode) (XLR)>Kii Three . Bedroom: SBTouch to Cambridge Soundworks Desktop Setup. Living Room/Kitchen: Ropieee (RPi3b+ with touchscreen) + Schiit Modi3E to a pair of Morel Hogtalare. All absolute statements about audio are false Link to comment
octaviars Posted August 11, 2018 Share Posted August 11, 2018 3 hours ago, firedog said: possibly even a dCS one. I suppose they who have a dCS DAC and a Network Bridge dont care that the NB dont have USB out as they will likely use AES or dual AES. On Roon forum dCS answers questions regarding this new DAC. It uses most of the technology from Rossini. https://community.roonlabs.com/t/dcs-bartok-streaming-dac-hp-amp/47510 Bootzilla 1 Main system TAD D1000mk2, TAD M2500mk2, TAD CE-1, Ansuz Mainz 8 C2, Ansuz Darkz D-TC, Qobuz Studio -> Roon ROCK on NUC -> Uptone etherREGEN -> dCS Network Bridge -> AES/EBU -> DAC HD Plex 200W PSU (4 rail for ISP fiber, router, etherREGEN and NUC) Second system Qobuz Studio -> Devialet Silver Phantom, Devialet Tree Link to comment
Patatorz Posted August 13, 2018 Share Posted August 13, 2018 Interesting ? Blog / Forum Link to comment
bunno77 Posted August 28, 2018 Share Posted August 28, 2018 Very much looking forward to this and the new Naim streamers. Hopefully we don't get stooged too much on price here in Aus though no doubt we will. We will likely pay $20k AUD which will be around 2-2.5k over exchange rates for the Bartok. Peach Audio Iso Transformer, Linn Akurate DSM, McIntosh MA2275 Paradigm 30th Anniversary Tributes, SVS SB13 Ultra x2, Dynaudio BM5A MKII Link to comment
xtraktz Posted September 25, 2019 Share Posted September 25, 2019 Is it general topic about Bartok? dCS Bartók > ATC SCA2 > ATC SCM 50ASLT Link to comment
Munchoba Posted September 26, 2019 Share Posted September 26, 2019 21 hours ago, xtraktz said: Is it general topic about Bartok? I've been waiting for a Bartók thread since I got mine 2 months ago... nothing so far. You two men go that way... QNAP TS-131P->2019 Mac Mini-> -> dCS BArtok -> balanced XLR -> Nagra MPA ->Shunyata Research cables and Hydra 6 -> Acapella La Campanella 2 horn speakers and REL R-328 SubBase. HiFi Rack Reference audio stand. Link to comment
xtraktz Posted September 26, 2019 Share Posted September 26, 2019 8 minutes ago, Munchoba said: I've been waiting for a Bartók thread since I got mine 2 months ago... nothing so far. Rossini is more popular despite the higher price) How do you like your Bartók? I sold my dCS Debussy and Network Bridge and bought Bartók 1 month ago. Sounds good) dCS Bartók > ATC SCA2 > ATC SCM 50ASLT Link to comment
mevdinc Posted September 26, 2019 Share Posted September 26, 2019 1 hour ago, xtraktz said: Rossini is more popular despite the higher price) How do you like your Bartók? I sold my dCS Debussy and Network Bridge and bought Bartók 1 month ago. Sounds good) Nice combo! Have you tried Bartok into the ATC 50As direct, any difference in SQ? I always prefer going into my actives directly from the DAC without using a pre. johndoe21ro 1 mevdinc.com (My autobiography) Recently sold my ATC EL 150 Actives! Link to comment
xtraktz Posted September 26, 2019 Share Posted September 26, 2019 del. dCS Bartók > ATC SCA2 > ATC SCM 50ASLT Link to comment
xtraktz Posted September 26, 2019 Share Posted September 26, 2019 58 minutes ago, mevdinc said: Nice combo! Have you tried Bartok into the ATC 50As direct, any difference in SQ? I always prefer going into my actives directly from the DAC without using a pre. Thanks! EL150 are also great, on their own)) Yes, I tried going directly using Canare XLR 3m IC. Much better than Debussy, but currently I still prefer sound with my ATC preamp. The sound with the ATC preamp is smoother and more analog, without loss of transparency, dynamics. It sounds better at low volume also. I will test more when I get a great and long balanced IC mevdinc 1 dCS Bartók > ATC SCA2 > ATC SCM 50ASLT Link to comment
xtraktz Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 Hey Bartók owners, where are you? 😱 I wonder when can we expect firmware 2.0 for Bartók , similar to Rossini 2.0? Technically it’s possible I think... Andrew from DCS also said that this is possible, but so far this is not in their plans. Good marketing and a sense of sweet hope for us 🙄 dCS Bartók > ATC SCA2 > ATC SCM 50ASLT Link to comment
Munchoba Posted October 3, 2019 Share Posted October 3, 2019 What did the firmware correct in the Rossini? You two men go that way... QNAP TS-131P->2019 Mac Mini-> -> dCS BArtok -> balanced XLR -> Nagra MPA ->Shunyata Research cables and Hydra 6 -> Acapella La Campanella 2 horn speakers and REL R-328 SubBase. HiFi Rack Reference audio stand. Link to comment
xtraktz Posted October 3, 2019 Share Posted October 3, 2019 36 minutes ago, Munchoba said: What did the firmware correct in the Rossini? Sound performance dCS Bartók > ATC SCA2 > ATC SCM 50ASLT Link to comment
k-man Posted October 4, 2019 Share Posted October 4, 2019 Stereophile review on the Bartók is up. xtraktz 1 Link to comment
xtraktz Posted October 4, 2019 Share Posted October 4, 2019 1 hour ago, k-man said: Stereophile review on the Bartók is up. pretty calm review.. dCS Bartók > ATC SCA2 > ATC SCM 50ASLT Link to comment
Julius Posted August 23, 2020 Share Posted August 23, 2020 Hi, I'm a new Bartok owner (few days only). I was wondering how experienced Bartok owners use the power button. Do you use the sleep mode all the time when not listening to music (To set the unit to sleep mode, press the Power button once). you use the switch off procedure (Hold down the Power button for about 5 seconds until SWITCHING OFF appears on the display, then release it.)Is there an advantage in SQ to keep the Bartok always in sleep mode (the unit remain close to running temperature) or the Switch off procedure is enough to keep the circuits always ready for listening anytime with no loss in SQ since the unit was not at running temperature? Thanks. 992Sam 1 Link to comment
992Sam Posted October 3, 2020 Share Posted October 3, 2020 On 8/23/2020 at 7:23 AM, Julius said: Hi, I'm a new Bartok owner (few days only). I was wondering how experienced Bartok owners use the power button. Do you use the sleep mode all the time when not listening to music (To set the unit to sleep mode, press the Power button once). you use the switch off procedure (Hold down the Power button for about 5 seconds until SWITCHING OFF appears on the display, then release it.) Is there an advantage in SQ to keep the Bartok always in sleep mode (the unit remain close to running temperature) or the Switch off procedure is enough to keep the circuits always ready for listening anytime with no loss in SQ since the unit was not at running temperature? Thanks. I too would be interested in this... PS Audio told me (when I tried their DAC out for a while) that it sounds better warmed up, and the owners manual actually says 3 hour prior to use is optimal... I also did a 2 week burin on it, running it nearly 24/7... I think it did sound better over time. I'm also taking delivery of a dCS sometime by the end of this month and curious what dCS recommends? Did you try to call them or did you get an answer to your question elsewhere? McIntosh MC462 Amplifier, McIntosh C1100 Pre-Amp, Accuphase DP-560 SACD player, dCS Rossini DAC, dCS Rossini Clock, McIntosh XR50 speakers, SolidSteel HF-2 rack and Speaker Stands, Gutwire 4-Bar power conditioner, Gutwire SV12 power cable (amp), Gutwire B10 power cables,, McIntosh XLR, Digital and Speaker Cable. Video of my system on Youtube Link to comment
Julius Posted October 3, 2020 Share Posted October 3, 2020 1 hour ago, 992Sam said: I too would be interested in this... PS Audio told me (when I tried their DAC out for a while) that it sounds better warmed up, and the owners manual actually says 3 hour prior to use is optimal... I also did a 2 week burin on it, running it nearly 24/7... I think it did sound better over time. I'm also taking delivery of a dCS sometime by the end of this month and curious what dCS recommends? Did you try to call them or did you get an answer to your question elsewhere? Yes, this is the answer I got from dCS regarding this topic: If your unit sees frequent use (daily) then it’s worth leaving it powered on all the time or using the standby function. That way you’ll always be getting the best and most consistent audio performance. If it’s only used periodically (weekends) then it’s worth powering it down completely during periods of non-use, but being sure to power it back on well in advance (many hours) of any critical listening. 992Sam 1 Link to comment
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