firedog 4435 Posted February 26, 2019 Share Posted February 26, 2019 11 hours ago, The Computer Audiophile said: What did you tell your local record shop when they sold you an SACD created from 44.1 PCM files? Depends what was written on the SACD material. I know that BIS used to do that, but the material stated explicitly it was sourced from Redbook. BIS said that their classical SACD customers wanted multi channel SACDs, and didn't care that the source was 44.1. The multichannel was what was important to them. I have zero problem with that. The problem is if they hide the source and charge you "hi-res" prices for an upsampled files. Main listening (small home office): Main setup: Surge protector +_iFi AC iPurifiers >Isol-8 Mini sub Axis Power Conditioning+Isolation>QuietPC Low Noise Server>Roon (Audiolense DRC)>Stack Audio Link II>Kii Control>Kii Three >GIK Room Treatments. Secondary Listening: Server with Audiolense RC>RPi4 or analog>Matrix Element i Streamer/DAC (XLR)+Schiit Freya>Kii Three . Bedroom: SBTouch to Cambridge Soundworks Desktop Setup. Living Room/Kitchen: RPi 3B+ running RoPieee to a pair of Morel Hogtalare. All absolute statements about audio are false Link to post Share on other sites
Popular Post Jud 5124 Posted February 26, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted February 26, 2019 4 hours ago, David Craff said: It's very frustrating to take time out of a problem, to finally have that kind of comment. I will now focus on issues directly related to the products I manage. We can only promise to be our imperfect selves. We all sometimes get frustrated and want to vent, and that is sometimes the wrong time for someone else. Every one of us appreciates what you have been doing to help, and hope you will decide to continue. Hugo9000 and Paul R 1 1 One never knows, do one? - Fats Waller The fairest thing we can experience is the mysterious. It is the fundamental emotion which stands at the cradle of true art and true science. - Einstein Computer, Audirvana -> wi-fi to router -> EtherREGEN -> microRendu -> USPCB -> ISO Regen (powered by LPS-1) -> USPCB -> Pro-Ject Pre Box S2 DAC -> Spectral DMC-12 & DMA-150 -> Vandersteen 3A Signature. Link to post Share on other sites
Popular Post mourip 497 Posted February 26, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted February 26, 2019 5 hours ago, David Craff said: It's very frustrating to take time out of a problem, to finally have that kind of comment. I will now focus on issues directly related to the products I manage. Thanks David. You are very appreciated here. The Qobuz/Roon marriage is a match made in heaven even if there is the normal marital "period of adjustment". Folks please start another thread for debating the larger issue of how the industry represents file resolution. It seems pretty clear that this is an industry wide issue. David has already answered the question of how to address your issues with files that you think might be incorrectly labeled within Qobuz. Please pursue that path. Let's offer David helpful feedback and propose solutions. This is the only forum that I am aware of where Qobuz actively participates. If you want to really get frustrated try posting problems on Roon Community. They seem completely unprepared or unwilling to support Qobuz... Hugo9000 and rando 1 1 "Don't Believe Everything You Think" System Link to post Share on other sites
bobbmd 128 Posted February 26, 2019 Share Posted February 26, 2019 @Kal Rubinson : this whole thread peaked my interest and your #1508 response to me(haven't listened to discs in dvd-a or sacd for a long time)- just for giggles i put 2 dvd-a discs the doors and workingman's dead & 3 scad dsd discs the rolling stones singles collection & bob dylan's other side of... and bringing it all back home on my combo changer in multichannel on my avr and switched between them and corresponding albums in hires on Qobuz- boy there is certainly some subtle differences- the discs have clearer crisper sound dylan's voice is more 'forward' the background instruments are 'background' w /more echos(more 'real'?) and workingman's dead a great difference much 'duller' in hires but i always thought the dead's studio albums especially the workingmans dead and american beauty were 2 of best sounding discs in dvd-a i have ever listened to- and now music direct catalogue has these in SACD haven't done same comparisons using A+3 and ROON vs the actual discs but will SO- do you think this miniDSP DAC will reproduce the sound of actual discs do you have one?( the cost is low enough to take the chance) ? I certainly have the ability to connect 5 or 7 analogue connections as i already have the setup with changer plus the bass manager into my avr?? I have read with interest you comments on ROON's 'community' page Link to post Share on other sites
bobbmd 128 Posted February 26, 2019 Share Posted February 26, 2019 just received message from @dmackta that Qobuz has been attacked by DDOS anyone else not getting Qobuz on any formats-desktop app ROON or Audirvana+3?? and what is a DDSO?? Link to post Share on other sites
OldHardwareTech 0 Posted February 26, 2019 Share Posted February 26, 2019 @bobbmd DDOS stands for Distributed Denial of Service. It's when too many systems try to log onto the same site at once and nobody can get on due to bogus traffic. And it's down on the US Gulf Coast too. Link to post Share on other sites
Kal Rubinson 1103 Posted February 26, 2019 Share Posted February 26, 2019 13 minutes ago, bobbmd said: SO- do you think this miniDSP DAC will reproduce the sound of actual discs do you have one?( the cost is low enough to take the chance) ? I don't now exactly how to answer that. On the one hand, yes, it will play everything up to 24/192 and up to 8channels without any issues but it will not do DSD. On the other, its audible performance does not compare with that of some other (much more expensive) DACs that I have used. Whether it is superior to using your AVR (I think that is what you are saying you tried), I have no idea. Kal Rubinson Music in the Round Senior Contributing Editor, Stereophile Link to post Share on other sites
bobbmd 128 Posted February 26, 2019 Share Posted February 26, 2019 @Kal Rubinson thanks- have you seen post from @dmackta ie Qobuz down 'attacked' by a DDSO- what is a DDSO/DDOS and how serious do you think this is?(all my playlists are gone from Qobuz and all I get is an error message 500 from Qobuz) Link to post Share on other sites
mav52 457 Posted February 26, 2019 Share Posted February 26, 2019 I'm wondering if Qobuz is down in the US. Just all of a sudden I can't access it. The Truth Is Out There Link to post Share on other sites
Axell 1 Posted February 26, 2019 Share Posted February 26, 2019 15 minutes ago, bobbmd said: @Kal Rubinson thanks- have you seen post from @dmackta ie Qobuz down 'attacked' by a DDSO- what is a DDSO/DDOS and how serious do you think this is?(all my playlists are gone from Qobuz and all I get is an error message 500 from Qobuz) In a distributed denial-of-service attack, which is DDoS, multiple devices - computers =》botnets are used to overwhelm a target server like Qobuz with requests and take web applications offline. Some of the biggest DDoS attacks have made major tech headlines:A 2016 DDoS attack created disruption for many major sites, including AirBnB, Netflix, PayPal, Visa, Amazon, The New York TImes, Reddit and GitHub. Link to post Share on other sites
The Computer Audiophile 11654 Posted February 26, 2019 Author Share Posted February 26, 2019 Qobuz needs to use Cloudflare for its DDoS protection. https://www.cloudflare.com/ddos/ Founder of Audiophile Style Announcing Polestar | Quick Community Reviews and Ratings Link to post Share on other sites
firedog 4435 Posted February 26, 2019 Share Posted February 26, 2019 1 hour ago, bobbmd said: just received message from @dmackta that Qobuz has been attacked by DDOS anyone else not getting Qobuz on any formats-desktop app ROON or Audirvana+3?? and what is a DDSO?? the app and web player aren't working for me. Thru Roon it is working. Main listening (small home office): Main setup: Surge protector +_iFi AC iPurifiers >Isol-8 Mini sub Axis Power Conditioning+Isolation>QuietPC Low Noise Server>Roon (Audiolense DRC)>Stack Audio Link II>Kii Control>Kii Three >GIK Room Treatments. Secondary Listening: Server with Audiolense RC>RPi4 or analog>Matrix Element i Streamer/DAC (XLR)+Schiit Freya>Kii Three . Bedroom: SBTouch to Cambridge Soundworks Desktop Setup. Living Room/Kitchen: RPi 3B+ running RoPieee to a pair of Morel Hogtalare. All absolute statements about audio are false Link to post Share on other sites
Fridolin 11 Posted February 26, 2019 Share Posted February 26, 2019 Qobuz is down in Europe (Germany), too . Link to post Share on other sites
The Computer Audiophile 11654 Posted February 26, 2019 Author Share Posted February 26, 2019 @dmackta I highly recommend looking into Cloudflare to mitigate DDoS attacks. There's even a free tier of service that will protect you. Not sure it's practical for this specific attack or your configuration, but I'd check it out. We've been using Cloudflare for a year and love it. Founder of Audiophile Style Announcing Polestar | Quick Community Reviews and Ratings Link to post Share on other sites
goon525 33 Posted February 26, 2019 Share Posted February 26, 2019 It was down in the UK, but looks like it may be back up now. Link to post Share on other sites
mav52 457 Posted February 26, 2019 Share Posted February 26, 2019 1 minute ago, goon525 said: It was down in the UK, but looks like it may be back up now. Yes it appears to be back up. 😀 The Truth Is Out There Link to post Share on other sites
mordante 69 Posted February 26, 2019 Share Posted February 26, 2019 8 minutes ago, The Computer Audiophile said: @dmackta I highly recommend looking into Cloudflare to mitigate DDoS attacks. There's even a free tier of service that will protect you. Not sure it's practical for this specific attack or your configuration, but I'd check it out. We've been using Cloudflare for a year and love it. I few weeks back I was listening to a radio program in the Netherlands. It was talking about DDOS attacks and special services to prevent it. Services like https://www.nbip.nl/en/nawas/ However they are too expensive to traffic all data for most services. I don't think Qobuz can actually afford such a service full time. Most companies use it only when under attack, not full time. [br] Link to post Share on other sites
Axell 1 Posted February 26, 2019 Share Posted February 26, 2019 Back up here, Germany, as well. Been listening to Amazon Music in the meantime 👎, man what a difference in sound ☹️ Link to post Share on other sites
Fridolin 11 Posted February 26, 2019 Share Posted February 26, 2019 No playlist items (tracks) shown here in Germany. Link to post Share on other sites
Axell 1 Posted February 26, 2019 Share Posted February 26, 2019 Strange, my playlists still show up, Germany, imported music as well. Everything works flawlessly, Chromecast as well. Link to post Share on other sites
David Craff 391 Posted February 26, 2019 Share Posted February 26, 2019 It's better to relaunch Qobuz app (to clear the navigation cache) Qobuz Product Manager for Desktop, Web Player and Search Engine. Link to post Share on other sites
Fridolin 11 Posted February 26, 2019 Share Posted February 26, 2019 1 minute ago, David Craff said: It's better to relaunch Qobuz app (to clear the navigation cache) That's the solution - thanks! Link to post Share on other sites
rickca 1639 Posted February 26, 2019 Share Posted February 26, 2019 I'm still getting a JavaScript error when I launch Qobuz Windows desktop ... never seen that before ... but I can access qobuz.com in the USA. NUC7PJYH/AL --> Berkeley Alpha USB --> Jeff Rowland Aeris --> Jeff Rowland 625 S2 --> Focal Utopia 3 Diablos with 2 x Focal Electra SW 1000 BE subs i7-6700K/Windows 10 Version 2004/HDPLEX 300W/HDPLEX 400W DC-ATX --> EVGA Nu Audio Card --> Focal CMS50's Link to post Share on other sites
David Craff 391 Posted February 26, 2019 Share Posted February 26, 2019 5 minutes ago, rickca said: I'm still getting a JavaScript error when I launch Qobuz Windows desktop ... never seen that before ... but I can access qobuz.com in the USA. Can I have a screenshot please ? Qobuz Product Manager for Desktop, Web Player and Search Engine. Link to post Share on other sites
rickca 1639 Posted February 26, 2019 Share Posted February 26, 2019 6 minutes ago, David Craff said: Can I have a screenshot please ? Sorry I don't know how to get a screenshot of just the error message. If you click on the image it will enlarge enough to read the error message. NUC7PJYH/AL --> Berkeley Alpha USB --> Jeff Rowland Aeris --> Jeff Rowland 625 S2 --> Focal Utopia 3 Diablos with 2 x Focal Electra SW 1000 BE subs i7-6700K/Windows 10 Version 2004/HDPLEX 300W/HDPLEX 400W DC-ATX --> EVGA Nu Audio Card --> Focal CMS50's Link to post Share on other sites
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