crenca Posted April 7, 2018 Share Posted April 7, 2018 51 minutes ago, Brinkman Ship said: posted by none other than author Jim Smith at AA: https://www.audioasylum.com/cgi/vt.mpl?f=critics&m=92129 "The thread mentions Michael Lavorgna, Jana Dagdagan, & long-time music reviewer Robert Baird." That thread discusses these rumors within the context of "Stereophile", but I thought there was a corporate separation between Stereophile and Audiostream. Does this mean that Audiostream itself is a goner (at least in the context of this rumor)? Hey MQA, if it is not all $voodoo$, show us the math! Link to comment
crenca Posted April 7, 2018 Share Posted April 7, 2018 1 minute ago, Brinkman Ship said: I was never under the impression that AS was a separate entity. In fact, for a short period, Lavorgna's AS articles were reprinted in Stereophile. If you noticed, last year AS staffed up on numerous additional contributors. This has probably been in the works for a while. The content was getting lamer and lamer. Oh well, he might have to liquidate "The Barn". Thanks, for the last year at least I never perused AS and would only click on an article if it was mentioned here. I did not know there had been a "merger" of sorts with Stereophile proper... Hey MQA, if it is not all $voodoo$, show us the math! Link to comment
crenca Posted April 7, 2018 Share Posted April 7, 2018 8 minutes ago, Brinkman Ship said: well, just to clarify..they were never separate..AS was just a column...like Analog Corner... Hum, I thought JA himself said (more than once) that they were under the same "corporate tent" but that they were separate and he was not editor of AS or ML...could be misremembering... Hey MQA, if it is not all $voodoo$, show us the math! Link to comment
crenca Posted April 7, 2018 Share Posted April 7, 2018 7 minutes ago, Brinkman Ship said: I think it is was somewhere in the middle, because they certainly overlapped.... FYI, I don't think AS will be folded..but revamped instead...I could be wrong.. If so, they should create a column/feature/section called "The Voice of the Banned", and get all of us here to contribute! Hey MQA, if it is not all $voodoo$, show us the math! Link to comment
Popular Post crenca Posted April 7, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted April 7, 2018 1 hour ago, LawrenceDavid said: Anyone happy about this should be ashamed. You people are horrible. Disagree all you want with writers. These folks are still human beings. This isn’t a victory for anyone. Shame on you. 27 minutes ago, BigAlMc said: I'm with @LawrenceDavid here. A. Celebrating people losing their livelihoods is in extremely questionable taste. B. Your celebrating a corporate takeover that doesn't for one second even pretend to put us first. It's a money thing, not a vindication of your vitriol towards MQA. C. Regardless of whether you are pro or anti MQA (I'm undecided BTW) the merger of publishing and reduction of sources for independent views (whether you agree with them or not) is a loss to the community. @Brinkman Ship I've read a lot of your posts and you are clearly a knowledgeable and intelligent guy. But this debunk MQA at all costs lowers any authority you might want to establish. History will tell dude. No need to be so zealous. @LawrenceDavid, your moralistic finger wagging ain't going to work because A) ML is not a "nice guy" B) It's just a job - he can go get another one C) ML really was nasty to more than a few of the regulars around here D) He too often supported products/causes that are truly not in the interest of anyone excepting those who make a few bucks off them. I personally don't wish him ill, though I do hope for his reform. Prison is not quite the place, but surely some sort of Audiophile purgatory is...maybe a job flippin burgers? @BigAIMc A) He has not "lost his livelihood", it's a mere shift - you will see him soon enough...maybe at the next audio show you attend demoing some magic cable or other or perhaps Synergistic Research black boxes B) Corporations are not the problem, Voodoo Corporations are C) Just any "independent" review won't do - it really has to be independent. ML's views were standard Audiophile drivel. A multiplicity of drivel is not a good in of itself. mrvco, MrMoM, Brinkman Ship and 3 others 4 1 1 Hey MQA, if it is not all $voodoo$, show us the math! Link to comment
crenca Posted April 7, 2018 Share Posted April 7, 2018 8 minutes ago, BigAlMc said: It's the toxic sentiment I object to. I get it. On the other hand, so much and so many in this industry are frauds (not saying ML is - he believe what he says..probably...maybe...does it matter?). Really, much of this stuff would be illegal if the market was big enough to draw attention from stretched-too-thin consumer protection agencies. What else do we consumers have except each other, and since the gloves are already off when it comes to manufacturers and these trade publications, what are we to do? "play nice" and "play by the rules"?? Still I get it, you don't want to wallow the with pigs such that you become just like them... MrMoM 1 Hey MQA, if it is not all $voodoo$, show us the math! Link to comment
crenca Posted April 7, 2018 Share Posted April 7, 2018 16 minutes ago, BigAlMc said: Take a deep breath and a chill pill. You hate MQA. We get it. Arguing ML and the likes deserve to lose their jobs is not an appropriate response and is beneath you. Actually, I think more than a few folks deserve exactly that - to lose their jobs. I suspect some of them deserve to be investigated by a handful of Euro and NA governmental agencies, and for them to issue real civil penalties (prison is probably going too far). Thank our lucky stars, most of us rarely get what we deserve! Hey MQA, if it is not all $voodoo$, show us the math! Link to comment
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