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I don't have the MQA service, only the "lossless" service, but I'll often see duplicates of Warner stuff, like

 

https://listen.tidal.com/album/32966322

https://listen.tidal.com/album/74351532

 

Is one of those MQA?  I don't see any difference between them in the web interface.

 

...OK, figured out that I can already set quality to "Master" in the desktop app.  Unfortunately Airplay is stuck at 44.1k. >:(

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They look to be the same album, but neither is marked M here in the USA. It'll be interesting to see if @Norton sees otherwise in the UK.

 

I've noticed this before, and it seems to be a clue when an album is region-limited. There'll be 2 albums, but neither will be marked MQA.

 

Very annoying.

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2 hours ago, Norton said:

 

The best Ma Vlast I've heard so far (Tidal 83066082 in UK).  Superb SQ and a conductor and orchestra who clearly own this piece.

 

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I own very many recordings of Elgar 1 and 2, but these standout to me  both for  superb SQ and performances:

 

77610506:

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77695915:

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The Smetana is inaccessible in the US. :(

 

The 2 Elgar's are indeed visible here. My experience with Elgar is limited to the Cello Concerto, Enigma Variations, and Pomp & Circumstance. The Symphonies are still an Enigma! ;) 

 

Added both to my listen queue.

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I haven't found any Sony MQA releases.  I notice a lot of the recent Bernstein remasters have duplicates, but no [M] over here.

 

So I searched on Decca Hi-Res downloads at Presto:

 

https://www.prestoclassical.co.uk/classical/search?format=3&search_query=decca&size=10&view=large&sort=date&page=3

 

Example:

 

Freire plays Brahms: https://tidal.com/album/79118250

 

Nilsson: 


Salome: https://tidal.com/album/77735491

Elektra: https://tidal.com/album/79118104

 

No Ma Vlast yet, but we have

 

Dvorak: Stabat Mater: https://tidal.com/album/77600975

              Symphonies & Concertos: https://tidal.com/album/77552639

 

The latest Kertesz Dvorak hi-rez remaster is there, too. 

 

I'll stop here because this is a fabulous recording of the Shostakovich Trios (Ashkenazy and friends):

 

https://tidal.com/album/77610682

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So what happens when you can see the MQA album, but you don't get the [M] in your region?   Is the MQA played back unfolded in "compatibility" mode, or is the true 16/44 PCM file?  If the former, it would seem that one could accidentally end up play the lossy unfolded MQA.

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Bertrand Chamayou.

 

Making his NY Philharmonic debut in May playing Mendelsson's Piano Concerto #1:

https://nyphil.org/concerts-tickets/1718/shostakovich-and-mendelssohn

 

https://tidal.com/album/68736685

 

https://tidal.com/album/68729051

 

https://tidal.com/album/79465652

 

If you like Ravel and Debussy. His Schubert is not bad either.

 

These are available as Masters (MQA) in the USA.

 

"The function of music is to release us from the tyranny of conscious thought", Sir Thomas Beecham. 

 

 

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13 hours ago, Daverz said:

So what happens when you can see the MQA album, but you don't get the [M] in your region?   Is the MQA played back unfolded in "compatibility" mode, or is the true 16/44 PCM file?  If the former, it would seem that one could accidentally end up play the lossy unfolded MQA.

 

If the album is region limited, you will just get a regular 16/44.1 stream. One might ask - if limiting the region, why not suppress the limited version, rather than show duplicates? I haven't studied this deeply, but I have noticed that labels often precede the MQA encoding step with a remaster, so perhaps the duplicate is the remastered version, without the MQA encoding.

 

As to what happens with an MQA-encoded album, it depends on your playback HW and SW. MQA tracks are encoded at either 24/44.1 or 24/48.

  • For non-MQA DACs, playing back on non-MQA software (pretty much everything except the Tidal Win/Mac desktop apps and Audirvana 4+): your DAC sees a 24/44.1 or 24/48 stream 
  • With MQA-enabled players like Tidal app and A+ 3, the SW does the first unfold, so your DAC typically sees 24/88.2 or 24/96, except in the cases where the original master was at 44.1 or 48, in which case there is no unfold.
  • With MQA DACs, of course, you get the full unfold and MQA filtering.
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5 hours ago, Daverz said:

 

Sorry, it's the Karajan Sibelius disc in the post above.

 

Thanks, I've found them now and yes, they seem identical other than catalogue # - both are 16/44.

 

Interesting to note though that the companion Karajan Columbia  recording of Sibelius 2 also has 2 Tidal catalogue #s, but in this case one (68733741) is MQA. 

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38 minutes ago, austinpop said:

 

Dave - are you in the US? If so, not sure where you found it in MQA.

 

There are 2 listings here, but neither are MQA.

https://tidal.com/album/32966322

https://tidal.com/album/74351532

 

Just like @Norton found in the UK.

 

Right, I see both without an M here in the US.  So neither has an M in the UK, either?  Perhaps the duplication is  just an error.

 

BTW, it's available as a hi-Rez download 

 

https://www.primephonic.com/album23779

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6 hours ago, austinpop said:

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A very decent Trout.

I agree:

 

https://musicophilesblog.com/2017/11/05/a-new-trout-quartet-recording-with-daniil-trifonov-and-anne-sophie-mutter-very-enjoyable/

 

Other reviews however  don't like it as it is clearly focused on Mutter.

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