Popular Post firedog Posted April 5, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted April 5, 2018 25 minutes ago, Alcap said: As a relative newbie here I’m must admit I’m confused by this rivalry and sometime bitterness that seems to pop up here occasionally regarding audio stream.com. Maybe someone could explain what is going on here and why the letters MQA seem to stir up so much emotion. MQA is seen by many here as a closed format attempt to control the production and distribution of music, ultimately at the expemse of the consumer. The initial response of the professional audio press was to glorify the possibly dubious technical and SQ claims of MQA as a revolutionary panacea for SQ and the world of hi-end audio. Pretty much no actual analysis or evaluation of the claims. Audiostream: the editor, Michael Lavorgna, got into some heated exchanges here. Not all of the heat came from him. But it ended when he used the site private messaging service to launch profanities at one of the members. So Chris banned him. He seems to many members here to represent an elitist audio press whose members (some here think) believe they should be the tastemakers in the audio world and that all of us `’regular people`’ should accept what they say fairly uncritically - because they are professionals - and we aren’t. ML has since gone out of his way to use his platform to disparage audio forums in general, posters at forums, and this forum - and it’s editor - in particular. Ajax and mrvco 1 1 Main listening (small home office): Main setup: Surge protector +>Isol-8 Mini sub Axis Power Strip/Isolation>QuietPC Low Noise Server>Roon (Audiolense DRC)>Stack Audio Link II>Kii Control>Kii Three (on their own electric circuit) >GIK Room Treatments. Secondary Path: Server with Audiolense RC>RPi4 or analog>Cayin iDAC6 MKII (tube mode) (XLR)>Kii Three . Bedroom: SBTouch to Cambridge Soundworks Desktop Setup. Living Room/Kitchen: Ropieee (RPi3b+ with touchscreen) + Schiit Modi3E to a pair of Morel Hogtalare. All absolute statements about audio are false Link to comment
firedog Posted April 5, 2018 Share Posted April 5, 2018 6 minutes ago, Albrecht said: LOL, there are no audio manufacturers in either the lo-fi consumer end, nor in the high-end that are making any money out of audio, and there's certainly no "market" That’s clearly an untrue statement. Please show us proof NO audio maker is profitable. Many say they are, and are expanding production. Some of them even post at this forum. mrvco 1 Main listening (small home office): Main setup: Surge protector +>Isol-8 Mini sub Axis Power Strip/Isolation>QuietPC Low Noise Server>Roon (Audiolense DRC)>Stack Audio Link II>Kii Control>Kii Three (on their own electric circuit) >GIK Room Treatments. Secondary Path: Server with Audiolense RC>RPi4 or analog>Cayin iDAC6 MKII (tube mode) (XLR)>Kii Three . Bedroom: SBTouch to Cambridge Soundworks Desktop Setup. Living Room/Kitchen: Ropieee (RPi3b+ with touchscreen) + Schiit Modi3E to a pair of Morel Hogtalare. All absolute statements about audio are false Link to comment
Popular Post firedog Posted April 6, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted April 6, 2018 5 hours ago, Albrecht said: Reichert wrote out the definition of the scientific method & referred it back to the types of knowledge, (defined by Kant), & how many of these unreasonable positions held by objectivists are bad science. It has NOTHING to do with whether or not Reichert is a Kantian; that's a mis-interpretation. He quoted a dictionary definition of science and then went on to show he has zero understanding of what science actually is and how it works. His point about “observations” was laughably wrong and showed that he doesn’t know what the word even means in a scientific context and how it is applied. Thuaveta, Rt66indierock, Ralf11 and 1 other 4 Main listening (small home office): Main setup: Surge protector +>Isol-8 Mini sub Axis Power Strip/Isolation>QuietPC Low Noise Server>Roon (Audiolense DRC)>Stack Audio Link II>Kii Control>Kii Three (on their own electric circuit) >GIK Room Treatments. Secondary Path: Server with Audiolense RC>RPi4 or analog>Cayin iDAC6 MKII (tube mode) (XLR)>Kii Three . Bedroom: SBTouch to Cambridge Soundworks Desktop Setup. Living Room/Kitchen: Ropieee (RPi3b+ with touchscreen) + Schiit Modi3E to a pair of Morel Hogtalare. All absolute statements about audio are false Link to comment
Popular Post firedog Posted April 7, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted April 7, 2018 2 minutes ago, Archimago said: Certainly OK to have skepticism around whether pure objective analysis is enough to determine quality (seems like you prefer "opinion" of self and others). One is free to decide. But the comparison with wine tasting, a multimodal experience of perceiving a substance produced by complex biochemical natural reactions to the electrical engineering efforts of sound reproduction leaves much to be desired. I would not consider the vague similarities between the two to be within the ballpark as the differences are even more striking! And it's been shown that wine tastings have radically different results when the tastings are blind. Less expensive , even not well known wines, often outpoint expensive and known ones, which is the opposite of what happens in sighted tastings. I think that outcome probably applies to audio comparisons also. Ralf11 and Nordkapp 1 1 Main listening (small home office): Main setup: Surge protector +>Isol-8 Mini sub Axis Power Strip/Isolation>QuietPC Low Noise Server>Roon (Audiolense DRC)>Stack Audio Link II>Kii Control>Kii Three (on their own electric circuit) >GIK Room Treatments. Secondary Path: Server with Audiolense RC>RPi4 or analog>Cayin iDAC6 MKII (tube mode) (XLR)>Kii Three . Bedroom: SBTouch to Cambridge Soundworks Desktop Setup. Living Room/Kitchen: Ropieee (RPi3b+ with touchscreen) + Schiit Modi3E to a pair of Morel Hogtalare. All absolute statements about audio are false Link to comment
Popular Post firedog Posted April 7, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted April 7, 2018 45 minutes ago, crenca said: Could there be a more succinct statement of Audiophiledom and the Audiophile culture? Sound quality rests on unknown and unexplainable art wielded by speaker/amp/DAC manufacturers, though these very same people will explain to you in meticulous detail how they design by know principals, math, etc. - they are quintessential "nerds with scopes". Writers and reviews who know next to nothing about electronics and technology "taste" various combinations of electronics. These guys are artists (often with art/literature degrees) and as such are trusted to judge art on an artistic basis. The proverbial (and largely mythical) "unknown" about sound proves their worth - they capture what a nerd and his scope will never capture, which is nothing less than what a recording really sounds like. @Archimago, @firedog, @semente all mentioned just a few of the many reasons and realities this position is "problematic" (to put a word to it) but in the end @JoeWhip is right is he not in that this belief resists anything from the "outside" with a religious fervor. I'm certainly not a hard core objectivst or subjectivist - I'm somewhere in the middle, so in the end I just try to make the best evaluations of SQ I can and accept the results - even if I'm "fooling myself". In practical terms, there isn't anything else most of us can do most of the time. I think, everything in your post could be true; but the reality of sighted testing is still highly problematic. I'd wager many reviews and comparisons would have different results if the listening wasn't sighted. pkane2001 and christopher3393 1 1 Main listening (small home office): Main setup: Surge protector +>Isol-8 Mini sub Axis Power Strip/Isolation>QuietPC Low Noise Server>Roon (Audiolense DRC)>Stack Audio Link II>Kii Control>Kii Three (on their own electric circuit) >GIK Room Treatments. Secondary Path: Server with Audiolense RC>RPi4 or analog>Cayin iDAC6 MKII (tube mode) (XLR)>Kii Three . Bedroom: SBTouch to Cambridge Soundworks Desktop Setup. Living Room/Kitchen: Ropieee (RPi3b+ with touchscreen) + Schiit Modi3E to a pair of Morel Hogtalare. All absolute statements about audio are false Link to comment
firedog Posted April 8, 2018 Share Posted April 8, 2018 13 hours ago, Allan F said: But it works both ways. If you don't expect to hear a difference, the effect of confirmation bias will be that you won't hear it even if there is one. You can't consciously be sure of what your confirmation bias is. You may think you know, but you actually don't. Main listening (small home office): Main setup: Surge protector +>Isol-8 Mini sub Axis Power Strip/Isolation>QuietPC Low Noise Server>Roon (Audiolense DRC)>Stack Audio Link II>Kii Control>Kii Three (on their own electric circuit) >GIK Room Treatments. Secondary Path: Server with Audiolense RC>RPi4 or analog>Cayin iDAC6 MKII (tube mode) (XLR)>Kii Three . Bedroom: SBTouch to Cambridge Soundworks Desktop Setup. Living Room/Kitchen: Ropieee (RPi3b+ with touchscreen) + Schiit Modi3E to a pair of Morel Hogtalare. All absolute statements about audio are false Link to comment
firedog Posted April 8, 2018 Share Posted April 8, 2018 3 hours ago, greyscale said: Just had a look at AS. There is a new video by AR regarding a record cleaning device. If I didnt know better, I'd swear these guys are trying to get fired. Or perhaps, the people at HiFi are going to buy the rights to Charlie Hebdo in Paris, and post equipment revues there. I dont find a reference to the Christian religion or a Nazi salute funny. Perhaps I'm just too sensitive to this sort of humour, but what the hell are these types of comments doing in a HiFi equipment review publication? link:https://www.audiostream.com/ The record cleaning device was at Analog Planet, not Audiostream. What references are about Christians and Nazis are you referring to? I don't see/hear them. Main listening (small home office): Main setup: Surge protector +>Isol-8 Mini sub Axis Power Strip/Isolation>QuietPC Low Noise Server>Roon (Audiolense DRC)>Stack Audio Link II>Kii Control>Kii Three (on their own electric circuit) >GIK Room Treatments. Secondary Path: Server with Audiolense RC>RPi4 or analog>Cayin iDAC6 MKII (tube mode) (XLR)>Kii Three . Bedroom: SBTouch to Cambridge Soundworks Desktop Setup. Living Room/Kitchen: Ropieee (RPi3b+ with touchscreen) + Schiit Modi3E to a pair of Morel Hogtalare. All absolute statements about audio are false Link to comment
firedog Posted April 17, 2018 Share Posted April 17, 2018 3 hours ago, Ron Scubadiver said: Is this piece going to be the swan song for Audiostream? Don't think so, they announced a new editor. Probably just taking her a few days to decide exactly what she's going to do with the site. Ron Scubadiver 1 Main listening (small home office): Main setup: Surge protector +>Isol-8 Mini sub Axis Power Strip/Isolation>QuietPC Low Noise Server>Roon (Audiolense DRC)>Stack Audio Link II>Kii Control>Kii Three (on their own electric circuit) >GIK Room Treatments. Secondary Path: Server with Audiolense RC>RPi4 or analog>Cayin iDAC6 MKII (tube mode) (XLR)>Kii Three . Bedroom: SBTouch to Cambridge Soundworks Desktop Setup. Living Room/Kitchen: Ropieee (RPi3b+ with touchscreen) + Schiit Modi3E to a pair of Morel Hogtalare. All absolute statements about audio are false Link to comment
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