EVOLVIST Posted September 27, 2019 Share Posted September 27, 2019 55 minutes ago, Superdad said: Sorry, the original LPS-1 can not power the switch because at its top 7 volt setting the EtherREGEN draws almost 1.4A, a bit over the UltraCap 1.1A continuous limit. The newer UltraCap LPS-1.2 can power EtherREGEN from its 9V or 12V settings as our switch draws about 0.92A at 9V and 0.72A at 12V. Damn! Ha! I've been looking for something to power with my LPS-1, but alas I guess it just isn't in the cards, every since I moved totally away from USB. Thank you for the answer! I'm really looking forward to the etherREGEN. SonicTransporter i5 -> Linn KDS/3 -> M3a-800S -> EgglestonWorks Andra II Link to comment
Superdad Posted September 27, 2019 Author Share Posted September 27, 2019 At 12V it will consume between 0.7-0.8A regardless of how many ports are in use, including with a SFP optical module installed. octaviars 1 UpTone Audio LLC Link to comment
Popular Post Superdad Posted September 27, 2019 Author Popular Post Share Posted September 27, 2019 23 minutes ago, EVOLVIST said: Damn! Ha! I've been looking for something to power with my LPS-1... Believe me, we were hoping to bring EtherREGEN in low enough to do it. That’s why its input voltage range goes down to 7V in the first place. But with a total of 12 LT-3045/42 voltage regulators (that’s $45 plus another $29 in pre-refs for each) and 26 usages of those regs by all the logic, we were proud to come in as far under 1A as we did for 9V and 12V. Took a lot of careful budgeting to pull that off. Again though, while the UltraCap LPS-1.2 (or other LPS) can easily power the EtherREGEN, I’ve yet to have any “wow” moment doing so over the SMPS that will ship with it. One of our beta testers—with a very fine system—said he hears a little difference with an LPS. But he was quick to say that such was orders of magnitude below the effect of the EtherREGEN itself—even with the stock supply. so-no-mah, EVOLVIST and xtraktz 2 1 UpTone Audio LLC Link to comment
xtraktz Posted September 27, 2019 Share Posted September 27, 2019 41 minutes ago, Superdad said: But he was quick to say that such was orders of magnitude below the effect of the EtherREGEN itself Please more details from here dCS Bartók > ATC SCA2 > ATC SCM 50ASLT Link to comment
Popular Post Nenon Posted September 27, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted September 27, 2019 I know everyone following this thread is sitting by the keyboard now and wondering "Should I ask? Or should I wait? Should I ask? Or maybe Alex will say it any moment? No, I should probably ask, maybe he forgot! No, he can't forget, I probably should not bother him...Should I ask anyway?" . So let me pull the trigger: @Superdad Alex - how far are you from announcing an official launch date? From following this thread, it seems like the testing is going really well, the PCB manufacturer has all the parts and needs 3 weeks, the chassis were ordered a while ago, and you were working on the website and product documentation. We must be close to getting a date, right? 🤞 jjraffin, FredM and RickyV 3 Industry disclosure: https://chicagohifi.com Dealer for: Taiko Audio, Conrad Johnson, Audio Mirror, and Sean Jacobs Link to comment
Popular Post Superdad Posted September 27, 2019 Author Popular Post Share Posted September 27, 2019 16 minutes ago, Nenon said: Alex - how far are you from announcing an official launch date? From following this thread, it seems like the testing is going really well, the PCB manufacturer has all the parts and needs 3 weeks, the chassis were ordered a while ago, and you were working on the website and product documentation. We must be close to getting a date, right? 🤞 Very close indeed! The first production run of 245 boards (with 80 allotted to our Hong Kong and UK dealers, 10 being held to sell to the beta-testers, so actually only 155 for general sales to public) will arrive to our offices by October 29th. Then we need a full 10 days for programming, testing, assembly, and shipping. So all of the first run of EtherREGEN will ship to clients the first half of November. And way before those ever arrive, another 250 units for the second run will be ordered (have already ordered more aluminum cases, bought $10K worth of second-run chips, and looked at stock of all the other chips). Actually the only thing keeping us from opening up to orders now is that I have yet to begin compiling the text, diagrams, and photos for the web page. And I need to import all the new e-mail addresses and write the letter announcing the 9:00 a.m. Tuesday date when the "AddToCart" button will go live. This week went to heck with a load of tasks including the prep and testing of another 12 JS-2s which have to ship out next week, so this next Tuesday the first will NOT be the launch date. I am aiming for launch day to be October 8th. That seems about right as one month in advance of shipping is my ethical limit for collecting payments. The web page will show a promised shipping week. Once the first 155 available units are pre-sold (probably within the first couple of hours), I will change that date to an estimate of delivery of units from the second run (seems logical that will be early December). As much as I enjoy answering questions and providing updates here on the forum, I can't afford the distractions right now (and I am easily distracted, plus e-mail can be relentless ). So forgive me if I step back for a week while I try to focus on getting everything else together. Thanks and have a great weekend, --Alex C. feelingears, soares, Nenon and 1 other 2 2 UpTone Audio LLC Link to comment
Superdad Posted September 27, 2019 Author Share Posted September 27, 2019 11 hours ago, xtraktz said: Please more details from here Not likely until a few hundred users start posting (in a yet to are created new thread). Despite their unanimous excitement, the beta testers are respecting my request to not post about what they hear just yet. Please refer to this post of mine with reasons why: UpTone Audio LLC Link to comment
Nenon Posted September 27, 2019 Share Posted September 27, 2019 Awesome! Thanks for the update Alex. This is top notch communication as always! 3 minutes ago, Superdad said: So forgive me if I step back for a week while I try to focus on getting everything else together. Our pleasure. Looking forward to the launch email. Superdad 1 Industry disclosure: https://chicagohifi.com Dealer for: Taiko Audio, Conrad Johnson, Audio Mirror, and Sean Jacobs Link to comment
Iving Posted September 27, 2019 Share Posted September 27, 2019 2 hours ago, Superdad said: [245 boards (with 80 allotted to our Hong Kong and UK dealers] [So all of the first run of EtherREGEN will ship to clients the first half of November.] [9:00 a.m. Tuesday date when the "AddToCart" button will go live] [I am aiming for launch day to be October 8th.] [Once the first 155 available units are pre-sold (probably within the first couple of hours)] Is a keen UK customer best advised to order from a UK dealer or direct online as USA customers? Given high demand, is one alternative more likely to secure a unit than the other? If UK customers are obliged to deal with UK dealers, please advise info inc. dealership(s), release dates and order routes. Thank you! Link to comment
EVOLVIST Posted September 27, 2019 Share Posted September 27, 2019 3 hours ago, Superdad said: And I need to import all the new e-mail addresses and write the letter announcing the 9:00 a.m. Tuesday date when the "AddToCart" button will go live. So, if you've gotten newsletters from Uptone and made orders before, you should get an email for the ether REGEN? Gee, I just looked and my last update from your guys was on 04/25/17 for the ISO REGEN. I hope I'm not being a pain in the ass. I just want to be able to snatch one from the first batch (don't we all?) SonicTransporter i5 -> Linn KDS/3 -> M3a-800S -> EgglestonWorks Andra II Link to comment
Superdad Posted September 27, 2019 Author Share Posted September 27, 2019 2 minutes ago, Iving said: Is a keen UK customer best advised to order from a UK dealer or direct online as USA customers? Given high demand, is one route more likely to secure a unit than the other? If UK customers are obliged to deal with UK dealers, please advise info inc. dealership(s), release dates and order routes. Thank you! Our products have always been value-priced for direct sale. Prices would be twice current retail if we offered traditional 40-55% dealer/distributor discounts. We have only a few international dealers because not too many are keen on the 15% discount we offer them--and that's for orders in some bulk (though we do give them free freight). But some very fine dealers enjoy selling UpTone products in part because our pieces are so unique and effective--and because it helps them sell other items. Our top two dealers--and the only ones who will have the EtherREGEN at launch--are: AfterDark. -- in Hong Kong, https://www.adark.co/collections/uptone-audio AudioStore/VortexBox -- in United Kingdom, https://www.vortexbox.co.uk/Uptone_EtherREGEN_priority_list/p317978_19934674.aspx Both of them have been accepting reservations for the EtherREGEN for the past two months. From the first production run, AfterDark is receiving 60 units (I think they are all pre-sold; Adrian has been begging me for more but they will have to wait until 2nd run), and Martin at AudioStore/VortexBox is set to receive 20. If we mange to properly execute production and shipping as envisioned, both dealers will receive their stock 2-3 days before the other 155 direct-sale units begin shipping. That's my way of showing appreciation for their fine representation of the UpTone brand. Given the above, and that I recall Martin telling me--before he left on vacation to here in the States--that he already had a dozen or so pre-order reservations for EtherREGEN, the odds of new pre-orders at his site being fillable from the 20 they will receive are getting slimmer by the day. And since Martin is gone until after our public launch day, I don't think you would have any way of knowing if adding yourself to his Priority List with a £0.01 deposit will actually secure one of those first 20. That's what I know as of now... UpTone Audio LLC Link to comment
Superdad Posted September 27, 2019 Author Share Posted September 27, 2019 19 minutes ago, EVOLVIST said: So, if you've gotten newsletters from Uptone and made orders before, you should get an email for the ether REGEN? Yes. Anyone who has EVER ordered a product from us will be sent the announcement via whatever e-mail address we have on file. Anyone who enters their e-mail address at the lower-right of our web homepage will be sent the announcement. And most all the people who have sent any sort of product inquiry to us are also on the list. Regarding the first and last above: It may not technically be legal anymore for us to add such addresses to our list without express permission. But I do it anyway because: a) Virtually everyone who bought from us in the the past wants to know about new products; b) If I take the time to write a detailed personal reply to someone's inquiry, I consider their e-mail address token compensation; c) We never have and never will share our e-mail list with any other company or individual; d) The only time we ever send anything to the list is when we have a major new product launching. So what, that's one primitive text e-mail per year at most? (Just checked and the last "Newsletter" I sent to the list was April 2017.) And yet given all that, you might (or might not) be shocked at the number of openly hostile, threatening, and downright vile replies I get when I send to the list. A simple "Please unsubscribe me" would suffice. UpTone Audio LLC Link to comment
tims Posted September 27, 2019 Share Posted September 27, 2019 44 minutes ago, Superdad said: Our products have always been value-priced for direct sale. Prices would be twice current retail if we offered traditional 40-55% dealer/distributor discounts. We have only a few international dealers because not too many are keen on the 15% discount we offer them--and that's for orders in some bulk (though we do give them free freight). But some very fine dealers enjoy selling UpTone products in part because our pieces are so unique and effective--and because it helps them sell other items. Our top two dealers--and the only ones who will have the EtherREGEN at launch--are: AfterDark. -- in Hong Kong, https://www.adark.co/collections/uptone-audio AudioStore/VortexBox -- in United Kingdom, https://www.vortexbox.co.uk/Uptone_EtherREGEN_priority_list/p317978_19934674.aspx Both of them have been accepting reservations for the EtherREGEN for the past two months. From the first production run, AfterDark is receiving 60 units (I think they are all pre-sold; Adrian has been begging me for more but they will have to wait until 2nd run), and Martin at AudioStore/VortexBox is set to receive 20. If we mange to properly execute production and shipping as envisioned, both dealers will receive their stock 2-3 days before the other 155 direct-sale units begin shipping. That's my way of showing appreciation for their fine representation of the UpTone brand. Given the above, and that I recall Martin telling me--before he left on vacation to here in the States--that he already had a dozen or so pre-order reservations for EtherREGEN, the odds of new pre-orders at his site being fillable from the 20 they will receive are getting slimmer by the day. And since Martin is gone until after our public launch day, I don't think you would have any way of knowing if adding yourself to his Priority List with a £0.01 deposit will actually secure one of those first 20. That's what I know as of now... I assume the first run of EtherREGEN's will be snapped up pretty quickly so, going on previous sales of new products, what sort of delay is likely before the 2nd, 3rd runs are available. Reason I ask is that my countries import taxes on goods are increasing on 1st December so if I purchase an ER I'd like to have it before this date . Thanks Link to comment
Superdad Posted September 27, 2019 Author Share Posted September 27, 2019 3 minutes ago, tims said: ... what sort of delay is likely before the 2nd, 3rd runs are available. Please read my post about this--from just this morning! https://audiophilestyle.com/forums/topic/38968-etherregen-we-are-in-final-beta-about-to-enter-production/?do=findComment&comment=992897 UpTone Audio LLC Link to comment
Pinkfaunrookie Posted September 27, 2019 Share Posted September 27, 2019 Mmmm so no mainland european dealer? Germany? The netherlands? I ask this as UK will be doing their brexit and then i expect hell brakes loose concerning extra taxes etc for ordering stuff in UK from mainland Europe Link to comment
tims Posted September 28, 2019 Share Posted September 28, 2019 4 hours ago, Superdad said: Please read my post about this--from just this morning! https://audiophilestyle.com/forums/topic/38968-etherregen-we-are-in-final-beta-about-to-enter-production/?do=findComment&comment=992897 Oops, missed that - thanks Link to comment
alsterfan Posted September 28, 2019 Share Posted September 28, 2019 10 hours ago, Pinkfaunrookie said: Mmmm so no mainland european dealer? Germany? The netherlands? I ask this as UK will be doing their brexit and then i expect hell brakes loose concerning extra taxes etc for ordering stuff in UK from mainland Europe Agreed. This is my concern too. Best wishes, Uwe Link to comment
Bernstein Posted September 28, 2019 Share Posted September 28, 2019 39 minutes ago, alsterfan said: Agreed. This is my concern too. Best wishes, Uwe 39 minutes ago, alsterfan said: Agreed. This is my concern too. Best wishes, Uwe Just order it from the US and that’s it! In three(3!) days delivered with Fedex to Germany (LPS 1.2). Hyperfast!!! Link to comment
alsterfan Posted September 28, 2019 Share Posted September 28, 2019 4 minutes ago, Bernstein said: Just order it from the US and that’s it! In three(3!) days delivered with Fedex to Germany (LPS 1.2). Hyperfast!!! That´s right. But it is way more comfortable to order in EU because of our customs procedures. Link to comment
Bernstein Posted September 28, 2019 Share Posted September 28, 2019 27 minutes ago, alsterfan said: That´s right. But it is way more comfortable to order in EU because of our customs procedures. This is also ZERO issue with Fedex and the Express option of Alex: I got my delivery in three days and 2-3 weeks after got a letter with information how to pay the taxes via online wizard. Link to comment
Pinkfaunrookie Posted September 28, 2019 Share Posted September 28, 2019 1 hour ago, alsterfan said: That´s right. But it is way more comfortable to order in EU because of our customs procedures. And no 30% extra taxes/ costs on top of the product's price. 😞 Link to comment
Confused Posted September 28, 2019 Share Posted September 28, 2019 12 hours ago, Pinkfaunrookie said: Mmmm so no mainland european dealer? Germany? The netherlands? I ask this as UK will be doing their brexit and then i expect hell brakes loose concerning extra taxes etc for ordering stuff in UK from mainland Europe If a "no deal" Brexit does occur and the UK moves to WTO rules, then the UK government is currently planning to reduce tariffs to zero for the vast majority of goods, including electronics. The exceptions are agricultural and "finished" automobiles. (rather than parts) Also, despite all the scaremongering in the press at the moment, a "no deal" Brexit in the very short term remains relatively unlikely. So don't panic! As things stand, the EU ramping up tariffs on US imports is far more likely as US / EU negotiations are currently a little strained. Windows 11 PC, Roon, HQPlayer, Focus Fidelity convolutions, iFi Zen Stream, Paul Hynes SR4, Mutec REF10, Mutec MC3+USB, Devialet 1000Pro, KEF Blade. Plus Pro-Ject Signature 12 TT for playing my 'legacy' vinyl collection. Desktop system; RME ADI-2 DAC fs, Meze Empyrean headphones. Link to comment
octaviars Posted September 28, 2019 Share Posted September 28, 2019 27 minutes ago, Pinkfaunrookie said: And no 30% extra taxes/ costs on top of the product's price. I really dont see that you can get away without extra costs buying from a company within the EU they need to pay TAX and import on the goods from the US. For example with the Uptone LPS-1.2 shipped to Sweden. Direkt from Uptone it is $435 and that is around 4250SEK and if it ends up in customs they add 25% TAX so that is 5300SEK (I dont know what the customs fee is so that will add more to the cost). Bought from Audiostore in England it is £435 and that is around 5200SEK so not much diffrences in the price for me where I buy it. Only way to get it for less money is if the package is marked with a lower value from the US so the TAX and fee is lower but not all companys want to do that when the ship it. Main system TAD D1000mk2, TAD M2500mk2, TAD CE-1, Ansuz Mainz 8 C2, Ansuz Darkz D-TC, Qobuz Studio -> Roon ROCK on NUC -> Uptone etherREGEN -> dCS Network Bridge -> AES/EBU -> DAC HD Plex 200W PSU (4 rail for ISP fiber, router, etherREGEN and NUC) Second system Qobuz Studio -> Devialet Silver Phantom, Devialet Tree Link to comment
Cable Monkey Posted September 28, 2019 Share Posted September 28, 2019 This may be the best £0.01 I ever spent! 😉 Superdad 1 Link to comment
Pinkfaunrookie Posted September 28, 2019 Share Posted September 28, 2019 1 hour ago, octaviars said: I really dont see that you can get away without extra costs buying from a company within the EU they need to pay TAX and import on the goods from the US. For example with the Uptone LPS-1.2 shipped to Sweden. Direkt from Uptone it is $435 and that is around 4250SEK and if it ends up in customs they add 25% TAX so that is 5300SEK (I dont know what the customs fee is so that will add more to the cost). Bought from Audiostore in England it is £435 and that is around 5200SEK so not much diffrences in the price for me where I buy it. Only way to get it for less money is if the package is marked with a lower value from the US so the TAX and fee is lower but not all companys want to do that when the ship it. I didnt meant NO...tgat was a typing error..lolz..i once bought an amp from US and i had to pay a third extra in taxes and transport costs, was a small fortune as the amp itself was expensive.. BUT BACK TO THE FORUM GUYS, back to that special product uptone is going to give up...we are derailing the thread..my apologies! Link to comment
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