ChrisG Posted March 7, 2018 Share Posted March 7, 2018 Ok folks, let her rip! https://jcat.eu/featured/m12-switch-gold/ Marcin_gps 1 ChrisG Bend, OR Link to comment
rickca Posted March 7, 2018 Share Posted March 7, 2018 OMG 4165 euros. I thought it was a joke, but apparently not. It just says the included power supply is medical grade. Is it a SMPS? Pareto Audio AMD 7700 Server --> Berkeley Alpha USB --> Jeff Rowland Aeris --> Jeff Rowland 625 S2 --> Focal Utopia 3 Diablos with 2 x Focal Electra SW 1000 BE subs i7-6700K/Windows 10 --> EVGA Nu Audio Card --> Focal CMS50's Link to comment
Popular Post ChrisG Posted March 7, 2018 Author Popular Post Share Posted March 7, 2018 It better be medical grade, 'cause I has a heart attack when I saw the price! Marcin_gps, jventer, Boomboy and 5 others 4 4 ChrisG Bend, OR Link to comment
mozes Posted March 7, 2018 Share Posted March 7, 2018 No comment! Obviously I am not the target audience. Link to comment
One and a half Posted March 7, 2018 Share Posted March 7, 2018 Audio only requires 100Mb/s speed. Therefore the price can come down by a decimal, and that’s a little more reasonable. Love the connectors. The end price is totally unrealistic and bring your own power. Hint: bring the price down to a tenth of what it is now, and there could be more sales than you can imagine. jventer 1 AS Profile Equipment List Say NO to MQA Link to comment
ChrisG Posted March 7, 2018 Author Share Posted March 7, 2018 Agreed. I was thinking "OK, this prolly costs around $500, I might bite", but then I saw the price and said "no effing way!" It's funny that, even for all this coin, you have to pay extra if you want more than 2 cables. ChrisG Bend, OR Link to comment
Solid-State Posted March 8, 2018 Share Posted March 8, 2018 https://eu.mouser.com/ProductDetail/Phoenix-Contact/2700200/?qs=sGAEpiMZZMu3sxpa5v1qrkZLRvYYVcHGDlqcf%2bY6bu0= Link to comment
MetalNuts Posted March 8, 2018 Share Posted March 8, 2018 Would like to know any audiophile here has bought this. MetalNuts Link to comment
diecaster Posted March 8, 2018 Share Posted March 8, 2018 While audio may need only 100Mb/s, I want 1000mB/s. Also, Those M12 connectors have their place and inside the standard home is not it. Hell, You hardly ever see those connectors in data centers with hundreds of thousands switch ports. Do you have a high vibration environment? Then yes, use them because that is where they make sense. This is just a way to grab more money from the rich audiofool that knows no better..... Link to comment
yamamoto2002 Posted March 8, 2018 Share Posted March 8, 2018 It is originally designed to install outdoors and it is waterproof so it will continue to work when your audio room is inundated above the floor level. It is nice to have feature for most audiophiles jventer 1 Sunday programmer since 1985 Developer of PlayPcmWin Link to comment
Marcin_gps Posted March 8, 2018 Share Posted March 8, 2018 You wouldn't be laughing if any of you heard what this switch is doing to the sound. Anyone who's serious about hi-fi uses power cords and power conditioners costing more than the switch. And the switch offers similar if not greater improvement. JPLAY & JCAT Founder Link to comment
Popular Post firedog Posted March 8, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted March 8, 2018 4 minutes ago, Marcin_gps said: Anyone who's serious about hi-fi uses power cords and power conditioners costing more than the switch. And the switch offers similar if not greater improvement. Anyone? I don't think every "serious" audiophile has conditioners and power cords costing more than $5K. But the people who will buy this switch probably do, I'll give you that. Thuaveta and Marcin_gps 2 Main listening (small home office): Main setup: Surge protector +>Isol-8 Mini sub Axis Power Strip/Isolation>QuietPC Low Noise Server>Roon (Audiolense DRC)>Stack Audio Link II>Kii Control>Kii Three (on their own electric circuit) >GIK Room Treatments. Secondary Path: Server with Audiolense RC>RPi4 or analog>Cayin iDAC6 MKII (tube mode) (XLR)>Kii Three . Bedroom: SBTouch to Cambridge Soundworks Desktop Setup. Living Room/Kitchen: Ropieee (RPi3b+ with touchscreen) + Schiit Modi3E to a pair of Morel Hogtalare. All absolute statements about audio are false Link to comment
bambadoo Posted March 8, 2018 Share Posted March 8, 2018 Behold - S-ATA cable from the same folks. Directional S-ATA. Link to comment
Marcin_gps Posted March 8, 2018 Share Posted March 8, 2018 Well, that's not exactly a news story: I've been offering SATA cables under JCAT since 2013 JPLAY & JCAT Founder Link to comment
One and a half Posted March 8, 2018 Share Posted March 8, 2018 56 minutes ago, Marcin_gps said: You wouldn't be laughing if any of you heard what this switch is doing to the sound. Anyone who's serious about hi-fi uses power cords and power conditioners costing more than the switch. And the switch offers similar if not greater improvement. We are laughing at the price since it is not commensurate with our wallets and a guessed price which is common in our thoughts. Do you want to sell 10 units a year or 100 units a month? Up to you. The market is open. Power conditioning works with ancient transformers. Nothing comes close. AS Profile Equipment List Say NO to MQA Link to comment
Marcin_gps Posted March 8, 2018 Share Posted March 8, 2018 I'm only interested in best products. JPLAY & JCAT Founder Link to comment
Popular Post mansr Posted March 8, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted March 8, 2018 43 minutes ago, Odd Magnus Bjerkvik said: Behold - S-ATA cable from the same folks. Directional S-ATA. Should it be installed the other way around when writing the music files to the disk? plissken, Thuaveta and ChrisG 3 Link to comment
Solid-State Posted March 8, 2018 Share Posted March 8, 2018 1 hour ago, mansr said: Should it be installed the other way around when writing the music files to the disk? NO!, Link to comment
rickca Posted March 8, 2018 Share Posted March 8, 2018 Here's another product for people with tons of money. It's over $90K. https://www.lessloss.com/laminar-streamer-sd-player-p-207.html Pareto Audio AMD 7700 Server --> Berkeley Alpha USB --> Jeff Rowland Aeris --> Jeff Rowland 625 S2 --> Focal Utopia 3 Diablos with 2 x Focal Electra SW 1000 BE subs i7-6700K/Windows 10 --> EVGA Nu Audio Card --> Focal CMS50's Link to comment
Kal Rubinson Posted March 8, 2018 Share Posted March 8, 2018 17 minutes ago, rickca said: Here's another product for people with tons of money. It's over $90K. https://www.lessloss.com/laminar-streamer-sd-player-p-207.html It does this: "The Laminar Streamer will be compatible with any sound file which ends in either .wav or .aiff" Kal Rubinson Senior Contributing Editor, Stereophile Link to comment
plissken Posted March 8, 2018 Share Posted March 8, 2018 3 hours ago, Marcin_gps said: You wouldn't be laughing if any of you heard what this switch is doing to the sound. Anyone who's serious about hi-fi uses power cords and power conditioners costing more than the switch. And the switch offers similar if not greater improvement. I'm afraid of what your switch is doing to the sound. Link to comment
plissken Posted March 8, 2018 Share Posted March 8, 2018 3 hours ago, Marcin_gps said: You wouldn't be laughing if any of you heard what this switch is doing to the sound. Anyone who's serious about hi-fi uses power cords and power conditioners costing more than the switch. And the switch offers similar if not greater improvement. So when I use your switch and I disconnect the Ethernet cable and the music still plays, what has your switch done? How does your switch improve the sound that is in cache? How does your switch outperform fiber media? Confused 1 Link to comment
ChrisG Posted March 8, 2018 Author Share Posted March 8, 2018 2 hours ago, rickca said: Here's another product for people with tons of money. It's over $90K. https://www.lessloss.com/laminar-streamer-sd-player-p-207.html If we can get 2 more people on board besides us, we can all get 10% off. #suchadeal ChrisG Bend, OR Link to comment
Marcin_gps Posted March 8, 2018 Share Posted March 8, 2018 43 minutes ago, plissken said: So when I use your switch and I disconnect the Ethernet cable and the music still plays, what has your switch done? How does your switch improve the sound that is in cache? How does your switch outperform fiber media? It has already improved sound if the music is in a CPU/memory cache on a PC/network player. Then try playing again without the switch and music will sound thin, flat and edgy - a characteristic that people most often complain about in a computer audio playback. Fiber media doesn't improve sound. It actually sounds worse than electrical connection - either LAN or USB. I've tried it years ago already. JPLAY & JCAT Founder Link to comment
diecaster Posted March 8, 2018 Share Posted March 8, 2018 Does the switch have audio-grade caps too? Link to comment
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