JVS Cheerleads an MQA CD..Sis Boom Bah!

[Spacehound]

15 minutes ago, miguelito said:

How can a CD, MQA or otherwise, be ANYTHING ELSE than 16/44? 

It can't  so as I said, he lied, deliberately or otherwise. Mistaken = lying in my book. 

 

A wise UK judge-  "The jury is not here to listen   to your excuses, they  are here  to  decide whether you did it or not")

[Brinkman Ship]

15 minutes ago, Spacehound said:

Just do what Chris says.

 

And we don't really need every example in the known universe..

YOU are asking me to play nice, now THAT takes the cake.

[Brinkman Ship]

4 minutes ago, Spacehound said:

It can't  so as I said, he lied, deliberately or otherwise. Mistaken = lying in my book. 

 

A wise UK judge-  "The jury is not here to listen   to your excuses, they  are here  to  decide whether you did it or not")

The MQA fold is packed on the disc, and unfolded by an MQA DAC. Probably no different than the "enhanced CDs" of the 90s with multimedia content.

[Brinkman Ship]

8 minutes ago, mansr said:

I want to see how they've allocated the bits in a 16-bit delivery format compared to the usual 24-bit. Something has to have been dropped.

That would be interesting to examine.

[NOMBEDES]

1 hour ago, mansr said:

That was a year ago, March 2017.

 

 

Crap.  I thought it was March 17th.  My error.  I wonder when the second CD will be released?   

[christopher3393]

11 minutes ago, NOMBEDES said:

 

 

Crap.  I thought it was March 17th.  My error.  I wonder when the second CD will be released?   

 

completely forgivable as that is St. Patrick's Day  

[miguelito]

29 minutes ago, mansr said:

I want to see how they've allocated the bits in a 16-bit delivery format compared to the usual 24-bit. Something has to have been dropped.

No frigging kidding!   @mansr:This is the most polite I have seen you in a while!

 

If my MQA DAC says MQA on it, I know that it's even worse as some bandwidth must have been used to "turn the blue light on". Jeezus...

[Spacehound]

20 minutes ago, Brinkman Ship said:

YOU are asking me to play nice, now THAT takes the cake.

He wasn't talking about nice,  but copyright. I play hard when someone is being deliberately obtuse or having asked a question refuses  the answer he gets.

 

[Teresa]

26 minutes ago, mansr said:

I want to see how they've allocated the bits in a 16-bit delivery format compared to the usual 24-bit. Something has to have been dropped.

 

If the MQA encoding requires 7-bits of a 24-bit file making the resulting MQA file 17-bit (assuming the same coding for CD) would that effectively make an MQA-CD 9-bit? Or am I dumb and not understanding this? 

[realhifi]

1 hour ago, Brinkman Ship said:

Nah, you would have seen it while trolling the MQA threads.

Nope. Only reason MQA keeps popping up on my radar is folks keep posting about it. I sure don’t go searching for articles on it. 

[Brinkman Ship]

2 minutes ago, Spacehound said:

He wasn't talking about nice,  but copyright. I play hard when someone is being deliberately obtuse or having asked a question refuses  the answer he gets.

 

The copyright claim with partial cut and paste, quotes, attribution, and link back is BS.  Fair Use. Look it up.

[Brinkman Ship]

Just now, realhifi said:

Nope. Only reason MQA keeps popping up on my radar is folks keep posting about it. I sure don’t go searching for articles on it. 

Right. Thanks for the laugh. You sure spend a lot time opening every thread...

[realhifi]

1 minute ago, Brinkman Ship said:

Right. Thanks for the laugh. You sure spend a lot time opening every thread...

To be honest much of it has become entertainment and my post was pretty sincere about directing me to that recording. 

[christopher3393]

20 minutes ago, Spacehound said:

I play hard

 

did you mean play hardball?

 

play hardball: to act or work aggressively, competitively, or ruthlessly, as in business or politics.

 

seems you post like this habitually. Why? It's a hobby forum.

[mansr]

38 minutes ago, Teresa said:

If the MQA encoding requires 7-bits of a 24-bit file making the resulting MQA file 17-bit (assuming the same coding for CD) would that effectively make an MQA-CD 9-bit? Or am I dumb and not understanding this? 

The split between baseband PCM and MQA data isn't fixed.

[Ron Scubadiver]

1 hour ago, Brinkman Ship said:

His only point, which I completely understand, is that he does not want to be harassed and threatened with petty claims.

You could have made your point about the original article with about 75% of your quote left out.  With the facts here CA is not being harassed because the copyright owners are exercising their legal rights.  You need to learn how to play nice.

[Brinkman Ship]

18 minutes ago, Ron Scubadiver said:

You could have made your point about the original article with about 75% of your quote left out.  With the facts here CA is not being harassed because the copyright owners are exercising their legal rights.  You need to learn how to play nice.

....people can claim anything they want...so you are a copyright lawyer?

[Brinkman Ship]

1 hour ago, realhifi said:

To be honest much of it has become entertainment and my post was pretty sincere about directing me to that recording. 

It is actually a worthwhile listen. The 24/96 download is excellent.

[rischa]

I love how JVS slips a burn to MQA skeptics in to the comments, writing, "...I would venture a guess that if they put "MQA" on the disc, only in Japan, where I am told that people are far more educated about and interested in MQA..." 

 

But seriously, this is what I've been afraid of. I'm not much of a streamer/downloader, but have been following MQA in fear that it would infect my physical media. Please no MQA vinyl, please.

[Brinkman Ship]

31 minutes ago, rischa said:

I love how JVS slips a burn to MQA skeptics in to the comments, writing, "...I would venture a guess that if they put "MQA" on the disc, only in Japan, where I am told that people are far more educated about and interested in MQA..." 

 

But seriously, this is what I've been afraid of. I'm not much of a streamer/downloader, but have been following MQA in fear that it would infect my physical media. Please no MQA vinyl, please.

Not only a swipe, but a misinformed one. "I am told"...." , this is  how a "journalist" posts? This is unheard of. He fabricates an MQA market in Japan. Streaming is a disaster in the Japanese music market, aside from YouTube.

 

Spotify, Deezer, etc have spent millions trying to break the market with very little success.

 

No Tidal customers in Japan, no MQA in Japan.

 

https://www.forbes.com/sites/cheriehu/2017/12/14/what-will-it-take-for-streaming-to-grow-in-japan-dispatches-from-tokyo-dance-music-event/#2639af1a5279

[The Computer Audiophile]

4 minutes ago, Brinkman Ship said:

Not only a swipe, but a misinformed one. "I am told"...." , this is  how a "journalist" posts? This is unheard of. He fabricates an MQA market in Japan. Streaming is a disaster in the Japanese music market, aside from YouTube.

 

Spotify, Deezer, etc have spent millions trying to break the market with very little success.

 

No Tidal customers in Japan, no MQA in Japan.

 

https://www.forbes.com/sites/cheriehu/2017/12/14/what-will-it-take-for-streaming-to-grow-in-japan-dispatches-from-tokyo-dance-music-event/#2639af1a5279

The good ole weasel words "I'm told." That's as good as the classic, "Some would say..." Both give you license to say anything you want without repercussions. That is if the audience isn't very astute. 

 

I'd cut a check for five figures if anyone could show me a more educated audience, with respect to MQA, than here on CA. It's especially not true of Japan, where the physical disc reigns supreme and they are buying thousand dollar glass CDs. 

[mav52]

5 minutes ago, Brinkman Ship said:

Not only a swipe, but a misinformed one. "I am told"...." , this is  how a "journalist" posts? This is unheard of. He fabricates an MQA market in Japan. Streaming is a disaster in the Japanese music market, aside from YouTube.

 

Spotify, Deezer, etc have spent millions trying to break the market with very little success.

 

No Tidal customers in Japan, no MQA in Japan.

 

https://www.forbes.com/sites/cheriehu/2017/12/14/what-will-it-take-for-streaming-to-grow-in-japan-dispatches-from-tokyo-dance-music-event/#2639af1a5279

 Maybe these listeners in Japan are getting their MQA from e-onkyo music store

"" Japan is the world’s second largest market for recorded music sales worldwide. Music in MQA format is currently available in Japan on the e-onkyo music store, most notably recordings from acclaimed Japanese label UNAMAS and the entire catalogue of ‘Anime’ specialist label Falcom. Indie-oriented digital music service, Ototoy, has plans to offer MQA music later this year, including recordings from the Beagle Kick label. ""

 

And "" http://hiresaudiocentral.com/synthax-japans-rme-premium-recordings-to-release-mqa-music/

[mansr]

55 minutes ago, Brinkman Ship said:

....people can claim anything they want...so you are a copyright lawyer?

It doesn't matter who is right. Chris is being harassed by Stereophile/TEN, and this isn't worthwhile picking a fight over.

[Don Hills]

2 hours ago, Teresa said:

 

If the MQA encoding requires 7-bits of a 24-bit file making the resulting MQA file 17-bit (assuming the same coding for CD) would that effectively make an MQA-CD 9-bit? Or am I dumb and not understanding this? 

 

One of the patents shows the lowest 3 bits of each 16 bit sample allocated to "folded" data. As Mansr pointed out, this number can vary.

[The Computer Audiophile]

There seems to be quite a bit of MQA for download in Japan, but I'd say that has nothing to do with the original statement about people being more educated in MQA. Interested, perhaps. 

 

 

http://www.e-onkyo.com/search/search.aspx?q=mqa