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Chris, did they play the XRT2.1K fairly loudly? My one experience with that type of speaker many years ago was amazing - the clothes I was wearing even ruffled in response as if there was a slight breeze in the room.

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3 hours ago, firedog said:

Chris, did they play the XRT2.1K fairly loudly? My one experience with that type of speaker many years ago was amazing - the clothes I was wearing even ruffled in response as if there was a slight breeze in the room.

Yes, the music was played both loud and soft. The clip above in the video was really loud. The experience was wonderful listening to and feeling the music just like a live venue. 

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Nice rooms, I am sure you had fun. Gorgeous pics too btw.

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5 hours ago, Ralf11 said:

Doesn't H/K own Mac as well as other competing brands?  They need more than blue meters to distinguish themselves

No.  H/K does not own Mac.

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Japanese years[edit]

 

The company was purchased by Japanese car audio maker Clarion in 1990. McIntosh components, particularly the early tube models, are highly regarded in Japan. In a speech shortly after the purchase, Clarion president Yutaka Oyamada told McIntosh employees, "...we like McIntosh as it is, and we have no intention of changing what has made it so successful."[7] Since the Clarion purchase, McIntosh has expanded into car audio and home theater.

In May 2003, McIntosh was sold by Clarion to D&M Holdings, also of Japan. McIntosh continues to operate independent engineering, design, and production operations in accordance with the company's tradition.

Italian years[edit]

On October 8, 2012, Fine Sounds SpA of Milan, Italy announced it had purchased McIntosh.[8]

Return to the United States[edit]

In May 2014, the CEO of Fine Sounds Group along with the President of McIntosh Labs led a management buyout of the Fine Sounds Group from its Italian investment firm owner, Quadrivio Investment Group.[9] Since then Fine Sounds group has now renamed itself McIntosh Group and relocated from Milan to New York[10][11]

 

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9 hours ago, Ralf11 said:

ok, as of 2014 the owner is McIntosh Group, a rename & move of Fine Sounds Group

 

Owner of:

Audio Research

McIntosh

Pryma

Sonus Faber

Sumiko Subwoofers

Wadia

 

so, any discussion of ARC, etc.?

This was a McIntosh and Sonus faber event. No discussion of other brands. ARC equipment was used for the Sonus faber demo. 

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part-time audiophile attended the same event and posted a podcast

 

https://parttimeaudiophile.com/2018/02/01/world-of-mcintosh-paolo-tezzon-livio-cucuzza/ 

 

with an extended interview with the designers (acoustic and industrial) of these speakers--the same men headed up both projects.  The acoustical engineer was at pains to note that the two flagships were not only designed with different "house sounds" in mind, but also different environments (as Chris noted, the MAC is much better suited to a HUGE space).  (Also, if I'm not reading too much into the interview, the Sonus Faber engineer unsurprisingly seemed to favor the Sonus design principals, I believe he said designed more with "accuracy" in mind, although he was, also unsurprisingly, enthusiastic about both speakers and allowed that each might be better in different circumstances.)

 

So, Chris, what were your takeaways--was one speaker, say better with certain sorts of music?  One more "musical" than the other while the other might be more muscular, perhaps?  If one were thinking about dropping a cool $130k on a new pair of speakers (unfortunately, I am not in such circumstances), what might they keep in mind before setting down with these two, clearly impressive, offerings?

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A great read and fantastic photos, Chris! You say ' The XRT2.1K will set you back a cool $130,000 ' which is quite cheap cause eg in the UK their price is (even cooler) £138k. But what I'm really interested in is who is the maker of this innovative designer audio table (photo no 2) on which Sonus Faber F (sorry I don't remember the number) rests ? (I believe many CA bikers could be interested in this information) :)

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On 2/4/2018 at 2:23 PM, input username here said:

So, Chris, what were your takeaways--was one speaker, say better with certain sorts of music?  One more "musical" than the other while the other might be more muscular, perhaps?  If one were thinking about dropping a cool $130k on a new pair of speakers (unfortunately, I am not in such circumstances), what might they keep in mind before setting down with these two, clearly impressive, offerings?

 

This is tough. When spending this much money, there are tons of options if you count all the speakers less than $130k as well.

 

For my taste I like the Aida better. I'm much ore used to a point source speaker. The Aida was in a smaller room with ARC electronics and different music. It's very hard to compare apples to apples, other than to say they are both loudspeakers with vastly different technologies and design goals. 

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I just realized that this showroom is featured (as someone's house) in Mr Robot, Season 2/Episode 1.  It shows a closeup of one of the amps at one point (MC452 IIRC). Cool.

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There are many adjectives that may apply to a massive pair of $130,000 speakers but, IMO, "cool" is not one of them. :)

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