Objectivists? Scientists? You will love this!

[Shadders]

Hi,

Continuing the theme, esoteric goods the the f*cking terminally stupid cretinous audiophools, i would like to present to you the following :

http://www.russandrews.com/dde-1/

It is absolutely effing magic. Really, it is magic. Only £3,130.

Has at least one 5 star review. Has at least one guaranteed mug who purchased it.

Regards,

Shadders.

[mansr]

3 hours ago, Shadders said:

The article states it is a Scalar Wave

https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Scalar_wave

[mansr]

4 minutes ago, Shadders said:

Continuing the theme, esoteric goods the the f*cking terminally stupid cretinous audiophools, i would like to present to you the following :

http://www.russandrews.com/dde-1/

It is absolutely effing magic. Really, it is magic. Only £3,130.

Has at least one 5 star review. Has at least one guaranteed mug who purchased it.

The web page doesn't even say what the effect is supposed to be.

[Shadders]

Just now, mansr said:

https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Scalar_wave

Hi mansr,

I checked that out - but, it still does not stop the system transmitting something - slight imbalance inthe coils, or purely since they cannot occupy the same space, then there will be some RF transmitted.

Until it is examined, then we don't kow what it does and what it transmits.

Regards,

Shadders.

[Shadders]

1 minute ago, mansr said:

The web page doesn't even say what the effect is supposed to be.

Hi mansr,

Exactly, and at least one person has bought it. Wonders will never cease on the gullibility of people.

Regards,

Shadders.

[esldude]

15 minutes ago, rn701 said:

If you pay $5000 for a black box (or brown) without any explanation of what it does, of course you are going to love the sound.

 

Wonder why it needs the signal cable? Shouldn't it have some kind of sensors or something to make it wireless?

That reminds me.  Didn't they say it had a quality vinyl veneered wood finish?  For $5k looks like it could have at least been real wood veneer.  

[pkane2001]

2 minutes ago, esldude said:

That reminds me.  Didn't they say it had a quality vinyl veneered wood finish?  For $5k looks like it could have at least been real wood veneer.  

 

Maybe it adds that vinyl quality to the sound?

 

[sphinxsix]

10 minutes ago, esldude said:

That reminds me.  Didn't they say it had a quality vinyl veneered wood finish?  For $5k looks like it could have at least been real wood veneer.

Maybe real wood veneer has some effect on scalar waves..  Taking into account the $5k price range accusing vdH of trying to make some extra bucks by using vinyl finish would be immoral!

 

BTW: cheaper and with better documented influence on SQ:

http://www.shunmook.com/

[firedog]

1 hour ago, rn701 said:

If you pay $5000 for a black box (or brown) without any explanation of what it does, of course you are going to love the sound.

 

Wonder why it needs the signal cable? Shouldn't it have some kind of sensors or something to make it wireless?

It  works even better with a $5000 power cord,

[Ralf11]

he only listened using the Active Ground SE system - we need one that works with real grounds

[fas42]

The device is doing something, in the areas that count - the reference to a sense of ease while listening, when it's operating, is the giveaway. Scalar waves? When you don't really know what's happening, throw in a BS explanation to keep those people who like that sort of thing happy ...

 

What is happening is that the effective level of residual distortion has been reduced - this is what optimising a setup does in a straighforward, technical way; here one knows what the factors are, largely, and 'rational' approaches are used to improve behaviour.

 

When obvious distortion is absent, then the type of 'colouring' which interferes with the "sense of ease in listening" needs to be addressed - nearly all the weirdo stuff operates in this territory, but more matter of fact methods are probably to be preferred.

[Ralf11]

CIA suppressed the Scalar Waves as part of a plot by the Deep State to keep Audiophiles Down

 

https://www.cia.gov/library/readingroom/docs/CIA-RDP96-00792R000500240001-6.pdf

[Indydan]

If it works by sending waves to your brain, then why does it have to be hooked up to the Speakers?

[Indydan]

2 hours ago, Shadders said:

Hi mansr,

Exactly, and at least one person has bought it. Wonders will never cease on the gullibility of people.

Regards,

Shadders.

 

Probably Lee Scoggins will buy one! Then, we will never hear the end of it...

[jabbr]

6 hours ago, GUTB said:

 

The reason why this is interesting is because vhd is reputable who is supposedly selling a snakeoil device. Well, anything interacting with the speaker load can make a significant difference but in regards to EM interaction with our audio processing center that is almost certainly BS unless there is research in that area I’m unaware of.

 

Any evidence of supposed legitimacy on “VHD” part is entirely counteracted by snakeoil 

[Ralf11]

1 hour ago, Indydan said:

If it works by sending waves to your brain, then why does it have to be hooked up to the Speakers?

 

the speakers amplify the Scalar Waves and help focus them on the limbic system

[GUTB]

1 minute ago, jabbr said:

Any evidence of supposed legitimacy on “VHD” part is entirely counteracted by snakeoil 

 

Not really. The Stradivarius will remain one of the best phono cartridges available. But if he becomes known for pushing snakeoil to cash in at audio shows people will begin to ignore him if he puts out otherwise legitimate new products. For example, most people know that Synergistic Research are snakeoil salesmen. I was exposed to one of there flim-flam demos at an audio show which cemented that judgement for me. But then, you go onto audiophile forums and virtually 100% of posters swear up and down that the SR fuses work -- the problem is that since SR damaged their reputation with me I can't trust anything they put out. I would have to have a no-questions-asked refund guarantee and even then against my better judgement. The fuses may be great but I don't know that and now there is a trust barrier to overcome if I want to find out.

[fas42]

The Bizarro world of 'ambitious' audio has come about because no real money is going into researching what the impact of more subtle distortions and noise in the end sound is, as a critical factor for what the subjective experience is. Which means that only amateurs, lone wolves and enthusiasts, who accidentally stumble across part of the picture are contributing to real movement.

 

Then those people decide or want to commercialise their results of their efforts; and this can be done with high integrity, playing it dead straight - or, hyping it to the max, pouring gallons of snake oil of propagada over the whole circus, to get maximum exposure and sales. The underlying concept may be just as important, the usefulness just as great for these two extremes, and that's just the way it is at the moment - we have a Wild West situation, which will last until the 'grownups' start taking it seriously ...

[Milt99]

1 hour ago, Indydan said:

If it works by sending waves to your brain, then why does it have to be hooked up to the Speakers?

 

Don't try to put logic where there isn't any.

I'm disappointed Robinson didn't open the thing up and look inside.

Maybe he did.

Honestly, I've read reviews by this same guy over the years and have never been impressed in the least.

[GUTB]

9 minutes ago, Milt99 said:

 

Don't try to put logic where there isn't any.

I'm disappointed Robinson didn't open the thing up and look inside.

Maybe he did.

Honestly, I've read reviews by this same guy over the years and have never been impressed in the least.

 

No one should go to Positive Feedback for honest reviews IMO.

[JoeWhip]

Let’s assume for the sake of argument that scaler waves are a fact. Has anyone done any testing on them to see if long term exposure to them is safe? Why the hell would I want to expose my brain to these waves? Insane stuff, but then again, it is Audio.....

[Kal Rubinson]

3 hours ago, Indydan said:

If it works by sending waves to your brain, then why does it have to be hooked up to the Speakers?

Because there's no evidence that it affects the brain.

[gmgraves]

12 hours ago, pkane2001 said:

 

What a great idea! Bypass audio and instead send signals directly to the brain through... telepathy? Love it! I wonder if it’s two-directional for real communications? Can it also communicate with the dead?

 

 

 

No, only the crazy, the addle-pated, and the drunk. 

[Ralf11]

it has already affected my brain...

[esldude]

36 minutes ago, JoeWhip said:

Let’s assume for the sake of argument that scaler waves are a fact. Has anyone done any testing on them to see if long term exposure to them is safe? Why the hell would I want to expose my brain to these waves? Insane stuff, but then again, it is Audio.....

Unicorns have been imagined to spear people thru their heart. Since they are potentially dangerous even in imagination, the safest course of action is caution.  I suggest treating this the same way.  In fact, they aren't even claiming two way action.  Just one way beaming into your brain.  Sounds like it could be a risk for mind control by others.