The Computer Audiophile Posted January 16, 2018 Share Posted January 16, 2018 View full article Founder of Audiophile Style | My Audio Systems Link to comment
LarryMagoo Posted January 16, 2018 Share Posted January 16, 2018 I'll be getting mine updated and get the GEN 5 USB board at the same time... Thanks CA for the info...Mike let the cat out of the bag last nite...saying "if you want to get a Yggy you have a 12 hour window to take advantage of".... Now we know what the upgrade is....Way to go Schiit! Link to comment
firedog Posted January 16, 2018 Share Posted January 16, 2018 I have zero intention to buy a Yggy, but Larry I'd be very interested to hear what difference you hear after the upgrades. If Schiit has clearly improved the sound of the output of the Yggy, then they've clearly got quite a DAC on their hands. Main listening (small home office): Main setup: Surge protector +>Isol-8 Mini sub Axis Power Strip/Isolation>QuietPC Low Noise Server>Roon (Audiolense DRC)>Stack Audio Link II>Kii Control>Kii Three (on their own electric circuit) >GIK Room Treatments. Secondary Path: Server with Audiolense RC>RPi4 or analog>Cayin iDAC6 MKII (tube mode) (XLR)>Kii Three . Bedroom: SBTouch to Cambridge Soundworks Desktop Setup. Living Room/Kitchen: Ropieee (RPi3b+ with touchscreen) + Schiit Modi3E to a pair of Morel Hogtalare. All absolute statements about audio are false Link to comment
madfloyd Posted January 17, 2018 Share Posted January 17, 2018 How would one know if they have the upgrade or not? I got mine in the 2nd week of November. Link to comment
rando Posted January 17, 2018 Share Posted January 17, 2018 Quote How do I know I have the new "Analog 2" output? Your serial number will start with a "B." One could always look on the product FAQ page. Link to comment
LarryMagoo Posted January 17, 2018 Share Posted January 17, 2018 2 hours ago, madfloyd said: How would one know if they have the upgrade or not? I got mine in the 2nd week of November. Your serial number will start with a "B".....they supposedly started shipping the update in October... Link to comment
twochaudio Posted January 17, 2018 Share Posted January 17, 2018 8 hours ago, LarryMagoo said: Your serial number will start with a "B".....they supposedly started shipping the update in October... Link to comment
twochaudio Posted January 18, 2018 Share Posted January 18, 2018 My take on the whole Shitty deal is you buy A new yeggy at $2,400. upgrades and all . if you have a yeggy and i just installed the Gen 5 USB at $100. +SHIP.Now the $550. Up grade shipping added also. Thats 3 k close. Shit screw all there deadacated customers. let's get That right ... There i Said it. It's B.S. Link to comment
Popular Post james45974 Posted January 18, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted January 18, 2018 1 hour ago, twochaudio said: My take on the whole Shitty deal is you buy A new yeggy at $2,400. upgrades and all . if you have a yeggy and i just installed the Gen 5 USB at $100. +SHIP.Now the $550. Up grade shipping added also. Thats 3 k close. Shit screw all there deadacated customers. let's get That right ... There i Said it. It's B.S. 1. You don't have to spend a dime upgrading if you don't want to. 2. You can buy a DAC from a company with zero upgradability and spend full price to replace it when new tech comes along. There are a bunch of spoiled people complaining, get over it! ? mav52, LarryMagoo and phariphan 3 Jim Link to comment
Popular Post Dr Tone Posted January 18, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted January 18, 2018 1 hour ago, twochaudio said: My take on the whole Shitty deal is you buy A new yeggy at $2,400. upgrades and all . if you have a yeggy and i just installed the Gen 5 USB at $100. +SHIP.Now the $550. Up grade shipping added also. Thats 3 k close. Shit screw all there deadacated customers. let's get That right ... There i Said it. It's B.S. If you can’t afford to upgrade don’t. Schiit owes you nothing! mav52 and LarryMagoo 2 Roon Rock->Auralic Aria G2->Schiit Yggdrasil A2->McIntosh C47->McIntosh MC301 Monos->Wilson Audio Sabrinas Link to comment
Ben-M Posted January 18, 2018 Share Posted January 18, 2018 Sooooo.... This means the v2 Yggdrasil has been in the wild and in owners' hands for 2-3 months, but none of those people knew it? And any of them could have listened their new v2 and maybe their original v1 or a friend's v1 or some audio shop's v1, then bought their v2, and never noticed any difference? Or any of them could have heard a v1 before, compared it to other DACs, liked it, ordered one online, actually received a v2, and hen thought the v2 sounded just like the v1 they'd heard before? It's strange to think about all that happening... Anyway, good for Schiit. It's nice to see the Yggdrasil get an update and finally join most of Schiit's other products that have been upgraded/improved since release. And $500, or maybe $600 if you get a USB gen 5 at the same time, is a pretty small price to pay when you consider the very few other vendors that even offer component upgrades to all or any of their DACs. LarryMagoo 1 Link to comment
LarryMagoo Posted January 18, 2018 Share Posted January 18, 2018 While $550 is bit of money....like a lot of folks, many other DAC Mfg'ers don't even offer upgrades.....The original Yggy won a Absolute Sound's Product of the Year.....so it's no slouch for sure....nobody's forcing you to upgrade....options are everywhere! Link to comment
Dr Tone Posted January 18, 2018 Share Posted January 18, 2018 13 minutes ago, Ben-M said: And $500, or maybe $600 if you get a USB gen 5 at the same time, is a pretty small price to pay when you consider the very few other vendors that even offer component upgrades to all or any of their DACs. The upgraded analog output boards house the DAC chips. The particular DAC chips used are around $85 per. There are 2 per board. All the whining about price is definitely un-warrented. Roon Rock->Auralic Aria G2->Schiit Yggdrasil A2->McIntosh C47->McIntosh MC301 Monos->Wilson Audio Sabrinas Link to comment
twochaudio Posted January 18, 2018 Share Posted January 18, 2018 Complaining you think??? Schiit should of bumped the Price of the upgraded Yeggy up If i upgraded shit product With all + shipping will cost Over 3k. Sure, i can sell it At one time for $1,900? Not now seems closer to $1,400. Yes. Yes im complaining. I should be. What do you want??? 1 updated yeggy at $2,400 Or 1 up to date at $3,100 ++ Pick the $ 2400. dude Link to comment
mav52 Posted January 18, 2018 Share Posted January 18, 2018 So I guess the complainers feel the same about any product they buy. IF a change comes out they deserve a freebie. Sad Mike Moffat on the upgrade https://www.head-fi.org/threads/what-a-long-strange-trip-its-been-robert-hunter.784471/page-428#post-13982140 The Truth Is Out There Link to comment
joelha Posted January 18, 2018 Share Posted January 18, 2018 8 minutes ago, mav52 said: So I guess the complainers feel the same about any product they buy. IF a change comes out they deserve a freebie. Sad Mike Moffat on the upgrade https://www.head-fi.org/threads/what-a-long-strange-trip-its-been-robert-hunter.784471/page-428#post-13982140 I'm not sure twochaudio even bought the device. He might be just be complaining. Another way to enjoy the hobby for some I suppose. But to do it in regards to the company offering some of the highest value propositions in audio today? From an audiophile and from a business standpoint, Schiit has earned my respect and then some. Joel Link to comment
Dr Tone Posted January 18, 2018 Share Posted January 18, 2018 38 minutes ago, twochaudio said: Complaining you think??? Schiit should of bumped the Price of the upgraded Yeggy up If i upgraded shit product With all + shipping will cost Over 3k. Sure, i can sell it At one time for $1,900? Not now seems closer to $1,400. Yes. Yes im complaining. I should be. What do you want??? 1 updated yeggy at $2,400 Or 1 up to date at $3,100 ++ Pick the $ 2400. dude Sell it, this Schiit isn't for you. LarryMagoo 1 Roon Rock->Auralic Aria G2->Schiit Yggdrasil A2->McIntosh C47->McIntosh MC301 Monos->Wilson Audio Sabrinas Link to comment
electrafixion Posted January 18, 2018 Share Posted January 18, 2018 I understand that it's no fun when you find out a piece of equipment you own is suddenly worth less than it once was, but DACs depreciate faster than anything else in this hobby. The fact that Schiit released a upgraded version of the Yaggy and NOT a Yaggy 2 will minimize depreciation. The fact that original Yaggy's can be upgraded for such a reasonable price also helps minimize depreciation. Link to comment
Abstraction Posted January 18, 2018 Share Posted January 18, 2018 19 hours ago, twochaudio said: My take on the whole Shitty deal is you buy A new yeggy at $2,400. upgrades and all . if you have a yeggy and i just installed the Gen 5 USB at $100. +SHIP.Now the $550. Look, 2chan. If you want to invest in things that never change, you could try precious metals. When you lose money there, however, it is not because new gold and silver are better. LarryMagoo 1 Link to comment
Vince.s Posted January 18, 2018 Share Posted January 18, 2018 3 hours ago, Ben-M said: Sooooo.... This means the v2 Yggdrasil has been in the wild and in owners' hands for 2-3 months, but none of those people knew it? And any of them could have listened their new v2 and maybe their original v1 or a friend's v1 or some audio shop's v1, then bought their v2, and never noticed any difference? Or any of them could have heard a v1 before, compared it to other DACs, liked it, ordered one online, actually received a v2, and hen thought the v2 sounded just like the v1 they'd heard before? It's strange to think about all that happening... Anyway, good for Schiit. It's nice to see the Yggdrasil get an update and finally join most of Schiit's other products that have been upgraded/improved since release. And $500, or maybe $600 if you get a USB gen 5 at the same time, is a pretty small price to pay when you consider the very few other vendors that even offer component upgrades to all or any of their DACs. No doubt that Yggdrasil is a great DAC for the price but nobody noticed that they have been using the V2 it for the past 4 to 5 months since they started shipping V2 without announcement? Someone must have heard the V1 before buying and not knowing that they received the V2. Now that it is in the open, suddenly every owner will say that the V2 is fantastic. Well worth the 500$ ungrade cost. Could it be all in the mind? Suddenly their Yggy V2 is so much better sounding. Same old DAC, some old system but different frame of mind. If i owned the V1, i will think twice upgrading. Link to comment
Popular Post JoeWhip Posted January 18, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted January 18, 2018 I own a v1 with usb 5. Have had it for a year. Will I upgrade. Yep. A no brainer. mourip and ssh 2 Link to comment
russellbobby Posted January 18, 2018 Share Posted January 18, 2018 I think what two channel is saying that the price of his v.1 dropped 500.00 bucks the used market is now 1400 or so. If Schitt would have upped the price to say 2599 then the hit on the version 1 would not have been as bad. The folks upgrading would have thought it was even a sweeter deal. maybe they did not want to compete with the 2500-3000 crowd 27x17x10 Golden Ratio room,EtherRegen>Melco N1A EX H60 server/streamer >T+A Dac 200>Coda CsIB > Paradigm Personas 5f, Combak Harmonica Footers, Townshend Podiums, Custom swarm sub system , Iconoclast 4x4 UPOCC XLR cable, Townshend F1 Fractal speaker cables SoTM dBl7 Ethernet cable, Puritan 156, Farad 3 LPS, Synergistic, Audience,and Triode wire labs power cabling ,Stillpoints, SR fuses,GIK Slatfusors Link to comment
Popular Post Dr Tone Posted January 18, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted January 18, 2018 20 minutes ago, russellbobby said: I think what two channel is saying that the price of his v.1 dropped 500.00 bucks the used market is now 1400 or so. If Schitt would have upped the price to say 2599 then the hit on the version 1 would not have been as bad. The folks upgrading would have thought it was even a sweeter deal. maybe they did not want to compete with the 2500-3000 crowd Still makes no sense. It's a depreciating asset not an investment. Artificially upping the price could have a detrimental effect on future sales volumes. It's not their way of doing business. 2ch needs to suck it up. jhwalker, mourip and Blake 3 Roon Rock->Auralic Aria G2->Schiit Yggdrasil A2->McIntosh C47->McIntosh MC301 Monos->Wilson Audio Sabrinas Link to comment
mourip Posted January 18, 2018 Share Posted January 18, 2018 3 hours ago, Vince.s said: No doubt that Yggdrasil is a great DAC for the price but nobody noticed that they have been using the V2 it for the past 4 to 5 months since they started shipping V2 without announcement? Someone must have heard the V1 before buying and not knowing that they received the V2. Now that it is in the open, suddenly every owner will say that the V2 is fantastic. Well worth the 500$ ungrade cost. Could it be all in the mind? Suddenly their Yggy V2 is so much better sounding. Same old DAC, some old system but different frame of mind. If i owned the V1, i will think twice upgrading. Hmm. First post. Do you own an YGGY? "Don't Believe Everything You Think" System Link to comment
mourip Posted January 18, 2018 Share Posted January 18, 2018 23 hours ago, twochaudio said: My take on the whole Shitty deal is you buy A new yeggy at $2,400. upgrades and all . if you have a yeggy and i just installed the Gen 5 USB at $100. +SHIP.Now the $550. Up grade shipping added also. Thats 3 k close. Shit screw all there deadacated customers. let's get That right ... There i Said it. It's B.S. First two posts just to drop by and vent? Do you own an Yggy? Ever heard one? Just wondering... They have two ways to do this: Make a new model, call it version 2, wait until existing stock is depleted, and then announce it. Ever heard of Apple? Or... do what they did plus give existing owners the option of upgrading. Pretty user friendly. With method number one existing owners take a hit on selling their now "legacy" model and then need to plow that back into the new one. They would be very lucky to be out of pocket just ~$600 after shipping and PayPal fees for selling their old unit.... if they could find a buyer. With method two: Existing owners just pony up for the ~$600 and now have a DAC that sounds better and in this case is still undervalued at ~$3000 It is true that if you just missed the cutoff you could feel grumpy. Obviously the jury is out as far as SQ but Chris seems to be impressed. "Don't Believe Everything You Think" System Link to comment
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