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3 hours ago, Em2016 said:

 

But it really is that good.

 

The experience gets even better in a multi zone setup, i.e. more than one endpoint - grouping multiple zones, transferring playback from one zone to another so slickly, specific DSP with any/all zones etc.

 

That's not the issue. The issue is the repeated dipping into my pockets (once I have committed my music library to Roon) every year at an exorbitant price ad infinititum (unless I want to be taken further to the cleaners and pay an eye-watering $500 for a "lifetime lease". No thanks). I think JRiver is too expensive, but it is at the top of what I'd be willing to spend for such a software solution and I do own that.

George

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4 hours ago, Em2016 said:

 

No worries. Like everything in this hobby we all have differing opinions on what constitutes good value for the money. And that's good. We all vote with our wallets.

 

Side note, I didn't think it was the best value for the money for a long time. I wasn't getting the sound quality I was getting with Audirvana... that all changed a few weeks ago with v1.4 of Roon.

 

Anyone that tried Roon long ago should give it another free trial, especially if SQ was an issue previously.... They've optimized their RAAT protocol and gotten a nice SQ improvement to my ears. It wasn't a difference I could hear easily with speakers (room effects probably masked the small differences). But I was able to hear it with my headphones. I can no longer hear any difference with headphones with v1.4.

 

 

Roon's quality is simply not an issue for me. It's their business model that puts me off. I use Adobe's Creative Suite a lot. But I'm still using v.6. Why? Because after that, Adobe went with this subscription pay-per-use model on the internet. IOW, one can no longer buy a copy and use it, upgrading if and when one wants to. No, one has to pay a monthly fee to Adobe,. And pay that fee whether you use the software that month or not.  To me that's cynical bullshit and I will not support such out and out corporate greed. That goes for Adobe, Roon, or any other software publishers who use that business model.

George

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Just now, firedog said:

 

It's all a matter of perspective. With JRiver you pay small amounts incrementally to upgrade. Over time that will also add up. 

I really like Roon, paid for the lifetime, and every year it "gets cheaper" and adds more features etc. If it stays around for 10 years it will have cost me $50 a year, which seems reasonable to me. I have weeks where I spend that much on downloads. 

 

I see your point, but I believe that you are still missing mine. With JRiver, whether or not I upgrade incrementally is up to me. I have Media Center 23 now, but when Media Center 24 comes out, MC 23 won't suddenly stop working, and if I'm happy with that, I need not spend another penny with JRiver. But every year, I would get to pay another $200 for Roon, or, conversely, pay $500 and get it over with. Either way you look at it, it's a lot of money for a piece of consumer software. Roon might be the greatest thing since sliced bread, but at my age, being a pensioner, I have to be careful about my expenditures. Perhaps if I were still working in Silicon Valley, making around $200K/year, I wouldn't blink twice about the cost of Roon (I still wouldn't like that business model, though), but in my present situation, I don't even dare try out Roon. I might like it so much that I had to have it! :) 

George

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