jky999 Posted December 10, 2017 Share Posted December 10, 2017 On another message board someone had mentioned migrating from FMC to a passive approach and mentioned Emo Systems. He had been using their EN-70D. I initially bought that and it was very good, but the bummer is that I needed another ethernet cable between it and any device. I mentioned to Emo that it would be great if they had a solution which took the virtues of the EN-70D but was pigtailed so you didn't need another cable. Emo pointed me to their EN-60KDS. I installed it and it has been a significant improvement. By significant, I mean you need a 10 second listen to hear the difference. Everything is way more cohesive and resolved. Strangely, the integration between my sub and speakers is now absolutely seamless with the bass being fuller. That was probably the biggest improvement. Before things were a bit disjointed. The cost was $200. I've got it between my router and my SonicTransporter I5 which is being fed by an Uptone Audio JS-2 which is then feeding an Ultra Rendu/LPS-1 combo. The usual disclaimer applies here. No affiliation with the company. Just a very happy camper and wanted to alert others to the virtue of this relatively cheap tweak. It's more expensive than the FMC approach, but then some are using upgrading psu's for their FMCs. In that context, it's an absolute bargain which also simplifies things greatly. MikeyFresh 1 Digital: SonicTransporter I5 powered by Uptone JS-2, Ghent Ethernet throughout, Ultra-Rendu's, Ghent DC cables, Curious and Ghent USB Living Room: Rethm Trishna, MicroZotl2, Auralic Vega, Rel E112 sub (High Fidelity ic's, DIY pc's and speaker wire from VH Audio) Office: Chord Hugo2, Feniks Essence, Rel 218, Noble Kaiser Encores, PM3 Link to comment
marce Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 All this is is another set of Ethernet magnetic's with a wider pin spacing to get the desired clearance and some TVS,s!!! Link to comment
znorter_1 Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 EMO systems... they look interesting to me, to my sys. (Steaming over Ethernet, with no PC and no USB) Do you think these isolators should improve the sound without changing the existent ethternet (inside wall) cable? Thanks. My Systmz Link to comment
Speed Racer Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 That's no different than this: http://industrialcomponent.com/baaske/mi1005.html And can be had for a lot less. John Swenson already showed that you don't need one if you ground the DC negative line powering an appropriate switch. Link to comment
znorter_1 Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 Well, thanks... I don't understand what does it mean ""a lot of less" because I see 160 USD! Anyway, (sorry for my totally ignorance about this) one device only like that one you quote, will be enough? And... where insert it? The chain audio I own is: NAS to Router; RENDERER/STREAMER to router RENDERER/STREAMER to DAC via 110 Ohm XLR cable (AES/EBU) My Systmz Link to comment
MrDerrick Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 I believe that Baaske and EMO may be a joint venture now. On the EMO US site they now list the EN-1005 as a product, looks like the Baaske. $140.00 US, in the EMO shopping section. HQPE 1.4/1.5 MHz 20 Bit PCM Streaming Qobuz or playing files from external SSD Surface Go 3 i3 Tablet with HQPlayer Client ISP Cable Modem -> Ethernet -> Sonore opticalModule Sonore opticalModule -> 20m Fiber -> Sonore opticalModule -> Ethernet -> Managed Switch Managed Switch -> Ethernet -> Sonore opticalModule Deluxe -> 5m Fiber -> Sonore Sig Rendu SE Optical ( HQPlayer NAA ) Managed Switch -> Ethernet ->Small Green Computer sonicTransporter i9 Optical ( HQPlayer Embedded ) Sonore Sig Rendu SE Optical -> USB -> Holo Audio KTE May Holo Audio KTE May -> XLR -> Goldpoint SA1X/47 -> XLR to Decware ZBIT -> RCA to Decware ZSTAGE25 -> RCA to Decware SE84UFO25 -> Avantgarde Duo Omega Horns with Townshend Audio Ribbon Super Tweeters Decware SE84UFO25 -> Speaker Level to Jensen IsoMax Balanced Converter -> XLR Rives PARC -> XLR Avantgarde SUB225s Link to comment
plissken Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 I heard wireless has the widest gap spacing with the best voltage insulator by means of 10's of feet of air space separation. Link to comment
marce Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 No use to me, my house is in metres... Its an isolation pulse transformer, with some capacitance across it so HF noise will have an escape path, in fact its pretty much the same isolation pulse transformer that is on every Ethernet port.. And if you don't use the screened Ethernet cable you wont have a ground loop anyway, and even then its a bit of a tenuous one. Link to comment
Speed Racer Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 https://www.ebay.com/p/Baaske-Mi-1005-Medical-Ethernet-Isolator-With-Network-Cables/664727134 $79 including shipping..... Link to comment
znorter_1 Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 10 hours ago, znorter_1 said: Anyway, (sorry for my totally ignorance about this) one device only like that one you quote, will be enough? And... where insert it? The chain audio I own is: NAS to Router; RENDERER/STREAMER to router RENDERER/STREAMER to DAC via 110 Ohm XLR cable (AES/EBU) Thanks so much for the eBay link... but some questions remains My Systmz Link to comment
plissken Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 On 12/10/2017 at 9:55 AM, jky999 said: On another message board someone had mentioned migrating from FMC to a passive approach and mentioned Emo Systems. That same person on another message board also said they prefer wireless over wired. Link to comment
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