flak Report post #1 Posted December 6, 2017 Second generation Dirac Live will be previewed at CES and will include improvements of both the algorithm itself and the user interface. The current version of Dirac Live individually measures the phase of each stereo speaker while the new version also analyzes speakers in pairs. This improved algorithm ensures that the pair’s phase responses are matched to each other and the upgrade will further enhance Dirac Live’s ability to improve staging and imaging. The new UI and configuration will be multilingual and more user friendly thanks to a more guided process that confirms the correct actions are being taken and the optimal settings are being implemented. This second generation paves the way to other additional features and modules that are expected starting Q3 2018 where Dirac will introduce, on a yearly basis, one new Dirac Live “module” that offers unique functionality and allows users to customize their Dirac Live platform based on specific usage requirements and market application – be it home theater, stereo, professional studio, and/or automotive. This new version will be a free upgrade for users of the current version. Here some (non final of course) preview images... Flavio 2 1 eternaloptimist, jiminlogansquare and Robert van Diggele reacted to this Report post Warning: My posts may be biased even if in good faith, I work for Dirac Research :-) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wgscott Report post #2 Posted December 6, 2017 That's excellent news. Congratulations on the upcoming release. Will the AU plug-in still work (or will a new one be distributed) by any chance? Report post -- Do facts matter? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
flak Report post #3 Posted December 6, 2017 48 minutes ago, wgscott said: That's excellent news. Congratulations on the upcoming release. Will the AU plug-in still work (or will a new one be distributed) by any chance? Thanks, a new version of the Dirac plugins is expected as well, end of Q1... hopefully Report post Warning: My posts may be biased even if in good faith, I work for Dirac Research :-) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
occamsrazor Report post #4 Posted December 6, 2017 Any chance of direct Roon integration? I know it can output through DL as soundcard but was wondering if some closer integration might be planned? Report post Mac Mini > RME ADI-2 DAC > Hypex Ncore monoblocks > ATC SCM-11 speakers & C1 subwoofer Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kal Rubinson Report post #5 Posted December 6, 2017 1 hour ago, occamsrazor said: Any chance of direct Roon integration? I know it can output through DL as soundcard but was wondering if some closer integration might be planned? The plug-ins should do that. Report post Kal Rubinson Music in the Round Senior Contributing Editor, Stereophile Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
occamsrazor Report post #6 Posted December 7, 2017 5 hours ago, Kal Rubinson said: The plug-ins should do that. But Roon doesn't support AU plugins so not sure how that could work. To be fair this is Roon's issue not Dirac's.... Report post Mac Mini > RME ADI-2 DAC > Hypex Ncore monoblocks > ATC SCM-11 speakers & C1 subwoofer Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
flak Report post #7 Posted December 7, 2017 6 hours ago, occamsrazor said: But Roon doesn't support AU plugins so not sure how that could work. To be fair this is Roon's issue not Dirac's.... We recently created an SDK (software developer kit) in order to support Dirac Live integration into third party applications, that should help. 1 1 R1200CL and occamsrazor reacted to this Report post Warning: My posts may be biased even if in good faith, I work for Dirac Research :-) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hiind Report post #8 Posted December 7, 2017 19 hours ago, flak said: Second generation Dirac Live will be previewed at CES and will include improvements of both the algorithm itself and the user interface. The current version of Dirac Live individually measures the phase of each stereo speaker while the new version also analyzes speakers in pairs. This improved algorithm ensures that the pair’s phase responses are matched to each other and the upgrade will further enhance Dirac Live’s ability to improve staging and imaging. The new UI and configuration will be multilingual and more user friendly thanks to a more guided process that confirms the correct actions are being taken and the optimal settings are being implemented. This second generation paves the way to other additional features and modules that are expected starting Q3 2018 where Dirac will introduce, on a yearly basis, one new Dirac Live “module” that offers unique functionality and allows users to customize their Dirac Live platform based on specific usage requirements and market application – be it home theater, stereo, professional studio, and/or automotive. This new version will be a free upgrade for users of the current version. Here some (non final of course) preview images... Flavio When is the expected release ? Report post Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
flak Report post #9 Posted December 8, 2017 On 12/7/2017 at 12:16 PM, hiind said: When is the expected release ? Q1 2018 Report post Warning: My posts may be biased even if in good faith, I work for Dirac Research :-) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
occamsrazor Report post #10 Posted December 8, 2017 Do we expect price to stay same? Higher? Lower ? Report post Mac Mini > RME ADI-2 DAC > Hypex Ncore monoblocks > ATC SCM-11 speakers & C1 subwoofer Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
flak Report post #11 Posted December 11, 2017 On 12/8/2017 at 2:17 PM, occamsrazor said: Do we expect price to stay same? Higher? Lower ? That has'nt been finalized yet Report post Warning: My posts may be biased even if in good faith, I work for Dirac Research :-) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tand Report post #12 Posted December 12, 2017 "This new version will be a free upgrade for users of the current version." The same for Amarra iRC customers? Report post Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
flak Report post #13 Posted December 13, 2017 23 hours ago, Tand said: The same for Amarra iRC customers? That's for Sonic Studio to answer. We have recently released an SDK (software developer kit) in order to support developers in embedding Dirac Live but it will require work nonetheless... it's their decison. Report post Warning: My posts may be biased even if in good faith, I work for Dirac Research :-) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
scintilla Report post #14 Posted December 18, 2017 Will there be corresponding software updates from minidsp for their products that incorporate the new DLCT? Report post Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
michael123 Report post #15 Posted December 19, 2017 On 12/6/2017 at 6:53 PM, flak said: Thanks, a new version of the Dirac plugins is expected as well, end of Q1... hopefully Ouch, that means Easter (or Passover) time. I thought that beta will be available after CES. Report post Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Thuaveta Report post #16 Posted December 20, 2017 On 13/12/2017 at 2:58 PM, flak said: That's for Sonic Studio to answer. We have recently released an SDK (software developer kit) in order to support developers in embedding Dirac Live but it will require work nonetheless... it's their decison. Flak, does Dirac see their licensing as system-based, location-based, or a combination of both ? Is there a place with a clear explanation of what the different OEM licenses allow you to do / not do, or is this also something that needs to be taken up with the individual licensees ? (The reason I'm asking this is that one of your OEMs advertises a "Dirac Full" (as opposed to "Dirac Full for FancyBrand") with the added perk of the upgrade being "Two computer licences" - is this "Dirac Full for FancyBrand" or "Dirac RCS with an extra logo slapped on". This seems to be a different "Dirac Full for FancyBrand" advertised by another of your OEMs, where "use of different measurement microphones" is part of the difference between Dirac SE and Dirac Full, which in turn is different branding than yet another OEM, where the Dirac capability is simply presented as "Dirac Live", and there is no mention of transferability of the Dirac license, as opposed to another OEM where non-transferability is stated out front. In other terms, it's all a bit confusing from a potential customer's perspective) Regarding Roon, how would you expect SDK integration to work with ROCK, which is linux-based if I'm not mistaken ? Report post Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MrDerrick Report post #17 Posted December 20, 2017 Will the upgrade also apply to users of Dirac on MiniDSP platforms? Such as the DDRC-22 series. Report post Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
scintilla Report post #18 Posted December 21, 2017 The forums over at minidsp have posts by the devs that appear to at least imply that this is coming. They claim that the binaries don't includes dsp transport support, so they have to write it first. That looks to me like a yes, but it may still be several months away. See here: https://www.minidsp.com/forum/dirac-series-support/13793-dirac-live-2018-2-0-minidsp-support Report post Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ronkuper Report post #19 Posted December 29, 2017 Hi Flavio (@flak), 1. The new version looks awesome, I can't wait! 2. Any chance Bass Management / Integration was added or is planned? (If yes - I'm a sure customer!!! If not - I wonder why it is left out for so long. Am I missing something?) Report post Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Peter Myers Report post #20 Posted January 4, 2018 Flavio...can I just clarify that the current release version of Dirac Live for Windows is still V 1.10? This is the only version available to me when I log into my account, although ver 1.2 is available to Mac users. Am I correct this is the same version of the software for at least the last 4 years? if so, the new version will be a very welcome and long overdue upgrade. thanks Report post Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Forehaven Report post #21 Posted January 4, 2018 Flak, is it the same for Emotiva XMC-1 Dirac...it's up to Emotiva whether to offer this and whether to charge more for this version? Report post Intel i7-6700 PC Server, NUC7CJYH w. 8g Ballistix ram as Renderer/LPS 1.2 - IsoRegen/LPS-1/LPS1 - AQVox Galvanic USB/LPS1 - Singxer SU-1/LPS1 - Holo Spring Level 3 DAC - LTA MicroZOTL MZ2 - Modwright KWA 150 Signature Amp - Tidal Audio Piano's. . Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Liam Report post #22 Posted January 5, 2018 A big thank you for making the new version free to users of the current version Report post LOUNGE: Lab12 Gordian Power Conditioner>Bluesound Node 2i/Qobuz Studio>Bluejeans 1694A coaxial interconnect >Lab12 DAC1 SE>Townshend DCT 300 RCA Interconnects>Amplifier Lab 12 Integre4 (Tung Sol KT150 output tubes) >Townshend Isolda EDCT Speaker Cables>Dynaudio Contour S 1.4 LE Spkrs/Dynaudio Stand 6. Acoustic Revive Schumann frequency generator/iFi DC iPurifier. LIVING ROOM:- iFi AC iPurifier>Bluesound Node2i/Qobuz Studio>Bluejeans Belden1694A coaxial interconnect>iFi Retro 50/LS3.5 Speakers. Schumann frequency generator. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
occamsrazor Report post #23 Posted January 14, 2018 Wasn’t there supposed to be a preview at CES? Is there any more info? Report post Mac Mini > RME ADI-2 DAC > Hypex Ncore monoblocks > ATC SCM-11 speakers & C1 subwoofer Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Youreye Report post #24 Posted January 16, 2018 On 1/14/2018 at 5:56 AM, occamsrazor said: Wasn’t there supposed to be a preview at CES? Is there any more info? It's like this product no one has ever seen and it's existence is highly hypothetical:) There is no video from the floor about VR noir Dirac Live with the new GUI from the whole CES 2018?! No demos, no interviews....just long waiting in the dark. Report post Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
michael123 Report post #25 Posted January 16, 2018 15 minutes ago, Youreye said: It's like this product no one has ever seen and it's existence is highly hypothetical:) There is no video from the floor about VR noir Dirac Live with the new GUI from the whole CES 2018?! No demos, no interviews....just long waiting in the dark. Check HomeTheaterHiFi. https://hometheaterhifi.com/features/show-reports-film-festivals-concerts/ces-2018-show-report-day-1/ However the interviewer had little knowledge of Dirac so he didn't even know there was a version 2 so did not ask the right questions Report post Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
