Best CPU for hqplayer

andygaof · January 23, 2020

@Miska

AMD 3700x OC 4400, DDR 3600 2*8GB, ASROCK X570M4pro motherboard. I have something share with you.

1. whatever how to OC the CPU and DRAM, I can't get poly-sinc-xtr-lp, ASDM7EC DSD 256 work perfectly with HQplayer 4.3 and 4.23. 4.3 and 4.23 have a poor CPU utilization.

2. With HQPlayer 4.2 I can get poly-sinc-xtr-lp, ASDM7EC DSD 256 work perfectly after I start LOL, just open it and do nothing. The CPU utilization always is 9x% or 100%. Even I play LOL, I still can get perfect sound.

LOL is a popular online game. When I play LOL only the CPU utilization is about 20%

3. Without LOL open, with HQplayer 4.2. some times, the CPU utilization will drop to 7x% or 80%. then the music will stop for a while and recover soon when the CPU utilization go back to above 85% or 87%.

andygaof · January 24, 2020

@Miska

more test in my home

Heard that intel CPU is better. I make a new PC with Intel 9700K, 8G*2 DDR4-3600, GIGABYTE Z390 M GAMING motherboard.

But, I get the excactly same result as my AMD 3700X system.

1. if the HQ version is 4.2.3 or 4.3, I can't play with poly-sinc-xtr-lp ADSM7EC. CPU performance capature below.

2. if the HQ version is 4.1.1 or 4.2, I can't play with poly-sinc-xtr-lp ADSM7EC as well. but the music stop is not as much as 4.2.3 or 4.3. the cpu performance capture below.

3. once I open LOL, just open the login page. I get perfect music. the cpu performance capture below. the only defference between Intel 9700K and AMD 3700X is 9700K cpu utilization is about 94%, 3700x is about 100%.

andygaof · January 24, 2020

addtional information. both system is on windows 10 pro. and not actived. just active the 3700x one. still get the same result.

both system can run aida system stability test for more than one hour., 100% CPU and Memory usage during the test.

andygaof · January 24, 2020

it's my power setting, High performace. I do not found Ultimate Performance option in my windows.

andygaof · January 24, 2020

the ultimate performance option is much better than high performance. but still have some stop. Open the LOL login page have no stop at all. confusing.

andygaof · January 24, 2020

try your image with embedded version. no stop at all.

andygaof · January 24, 2020

Just now, Miska said:

Sounds like Windows power management playing it's games again...

confirm that 4.3.0.1 has no improve. even open the LOL login page

andygaof · January 24, 2020

this show before and after I open LOL login page. before open LOL you can see lots of very sharp raise and drop. but it's diapperaed after open LOL login page.

andygaof · January 24, 2020

one more update. for somebody told me that the multithreads is not good for upsampling, so I disable multithreads in the beginning. just try enable multithreads.

3700x can do great job when OC to 4.2G in my setup. 3700x, 8*2G DDR4-3200 OC 3600, ASROCK X570M pro4 motherboard. without LOL login page opened. and HQ version must be 4.2 or 4.1.1.

the CPU usage is 50%-64%, ROON and HQ are both running.

below is the AMD Ryzen Master Setup and power plan setup. The AMD Ryzen High performance option come with ADM Ryzen Master.

andygaof · January 24, 2020

3 minutes ago, Miska said:

If you can spare a partition or a separate disk, you could try to install Ubuntu 18.04 LTS or Fedora Workstation 31 and try HQPlayer there for comparison. You can create a separate EFI boot partition on a separate drive to avoid mixing with Windows. Also don't create a swap partition although installer complains about it, it is totally unnecessary and harmful thing with modern computers. You can then use BIOS's boot menu hot key at boot to select which one to boot.

Thanks Miska,

I will try Ubuntu tomorrow. But, I am really planning to move to Archlinux, I more like the IRQ in archlinux compare Ubuntu. But, I am still in some trouble to enable the LXQT or other desktop env in ArchLinux. HQPlayer Embedded work well in ArchLinux. For the license issue, you know, I have multiple PC. and embedded version only can install the license to one them. So, I give up embedded version.

Do you think you can licensing the embedded version by IP? I mean if multiple PC from same Public IP, you can treated them as one license. Then I can use embedded version. it's better than desktop version in any test case in my home. I really do not like the desktop env.

andygaof · January 25, 2020

26 minutes ago, teera_ash said:

....but on AL with embedded HQPlayer, I can run xtr MP, asdm7ec, dsd256 with 16 cores, 32 threads as well as 8 cores 16 threads. With 16 cores CPU utilisation is around 12-13%.

but, the question is how to OC the CPU in Linux. once I set the frequency byoned the CPU information, it do not work. the maximum I can set is 3.6GHz for intel 9700K.

andygaof · January 25, 2020

@Miska

Just run HQ 4.3 on Ubuntu. everything is fine except the sound quality. will try to optimize the rt kernel, IRQ and so on.

andygaof · January 25, 2020

changed the kernel to your 4.19 SMP. the sound quality is better

CPU frequency automatically change to 4.6GHz once HQPlayer start playback.

andygaof · January 25, 2020

5 minutes ago, teera_ash said:

With AL I can set CPU core ratio in bios, 43.5 for 3700X, 42.5 for 3950X. Every configurations work perfectly up to dsd256.

for Windows, it's ok. May not for Linux

andygaof · January 25, 2020

1 hour ago, Miska said:

BIOS clock and ratio settings should work the same on both.

correct me if I am wrong.

I do not agree with this.

in windows 10, once you set for example 4.4 GHz in BIOS, CPU will working at 4.4 GHz if the power plan is High performance.

but in ubuntu, whatever how you set CPU freq in BIOS, system will follow the configuration in /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu*/cpufreq/. it will be between the scaling_min_freq and scaling_max_freq, and scaling_max_freq will be the CPU highest freq of the CPUinfo.

even you set 4.4GHz in BIOS, but in Ubuntu, if you do not touch the configurations, then, for Intel 9700K the scaling_max_freq is 4.9GHz not 4.4.GHz.

it's a big difference between Ubuntu and Windows 10. To avoid too high temperature, I have to set this script with systemd, when the system startup.

andygaof@andygaof-Z390-M-GAMING:~$ cat /usr/local/bin/setmaxcpufreq.sh
#!/bin/bash

echo 4400000 > /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling_max_freq
echo 4400000 > /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu1/cpufreq/scaling_max_freq
echo 4400000 > /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu2/cpufreq/scaling_max_freq
echo 4400000 > /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu3/cpufreq/scaling_max_freq
echo 4400000 > /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu4/cpufreq/scaling_max_freq
echo 4400000 > /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu5/cpufreq/scaling_max_freq
echo 4400000 > /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu6/cpufreq/scaling_max_freq
echo 4400000 > /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu7/cpufreq/scaling_max_freq

after this, CPU will work on 4.4GHz NOT 4.6GHz.

andygaof@andygaof-Z390-M-GAMING:~$ cpufreq-info | grep 'current CPU'
current CPU frequency is 4.40 GHz.
current CPU frequency is 4.40 GHz.
current CPU frequency is 4.40 GHz.
current CPU frequency is 4.40 GHz.
current CPU frequency is 4.40 GHz.
current CPU frequency is 4.40 GHz.
current CPU frequency is 4.40 GHz.
current CPU frequency is 4.40 GHz.

then the maximum temperature will drop to 74 compare 4.6GHz's 89. CPU usage will hit 100% with 4.4GHz setup compare about 92% maximum with 4.6GHz. the sound quality is almost same, and no dropout. this is better for me. Because my PC case do not have any fan inside.

andygaof · January 25, 2020

1 hour ago, Miska said:

BIOS clock and ratio settings should work the same on both.

and my mistake. for Intel 9700K, the maximum I can set is 4.9GHz, not 3.6GHz.

andygaof · January 26, 2020

7 hours ago, StreamFidelity said:

Is the display correct that the temperature for Kingston SSD A400 is 97°C? The recommended operating temperature is: 0°C to 70°C. There is a risk of a system failure.

something wrong，it's always 97. I touch the Kingston SSD, the temperature is lower than my hand. I think software do not get the right information of Kingston sensor.

But the PC case is really hot when working on 4.6GHz. 4.4GHz is acceptable.

andygaof · January 31, 2020

@Miska

With 430, Intel 9700K. Found some thing strange in Ubuntu. If I check Multicore DSP. Then a lot of dropout, same as windows 10. If I grey the Multicore DSP, it works perfect.

Will go back to Windows 10 to see if it has the same problem.

andygaof · January 31, 2020

confirmed that grey the Multicore DSP. Intel 9700K, No OC, default BIOS setting, no high performance power plan, default windows 10 pro setting, Balanced.

HQPlayer 4301 work perfect with poly-sinc-xtr-lp, ADSM7EC, DSD256.

CPU usage is about 61%