Middy Posted December 16, 2019 Share Posted December 16, 2019 Ah , my brain us getting old, thats where i got my DC blocker from, i suppose you could ask for assembly into a case than just a populated PCB , its on offer it seems. Really nice guy and well made...the product that is.. @austinpop if you think that would help with such a large in rush current. ? Thanks again Austinpops, another great year for the thread. Your work is very much appreciated as always.. et al.. Dave Link to comment
austinpop Posted December 16, 2019 Share Posted December 16, 2019 Thanks for the pointers to the soft start devices, guys. There is actually a "built in" current limiter in the PS Audio regenerators like the P12, on the outlets marked Zone D High Current, so I have that option. More importantly, Paul is working on a solution to incorporate soft start in his future builds, so once he has it, I will send my unit back to have it added. My Audio Setup Link to comment
oilpaint Posted March 11, 2020 Share Posted March 11, 2020 I have a SR7 and have a question. Several of my components are plugged into a Shunyata Denali Power Conditioner. Does anyone have any experience using the SR7 and Denali together? The option is to plug the SR7 directly into a dedicated outlet. Currently I have the SR7 into the Denali but am considering redoing things to try direct to the outlet. Any thoughts would be helpful. Link to comment
auricgoldfinger Posted March 11, 2020 Share Posted March 11, 2020 14 minutes ago, oilpaint said: I have a SR7 and have a question. Several of my components are plugged into a Shunyata Denali Power Conditioner. Does anyone have any experience using the SR7 and Denali together? The option is to plug the SR7 directly into a dedicated outlet. Currently I have the SR7 into the Denali but am considering redoing things to try direct to the outlet. Any thoughts would be helpful. My advice would be to try both alternatives and go with whatever sounds best. I know physically re-configuring a system can be a PITA, but it's the only way to know for sure. Link to comment
Popular Post Iving Posted May 2, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted May 2, 2020 My Paul Hynes SR7T just arrived. Eagle-eyed readers will have spotted the T! It was ordered late Dec./early Jan. as an SR7. The anticipated delivery date was March. So we’re 1-2 months behind. I don’t think that has much to do with Coronavirus, although Stephen is flying solo with all his colleagues in isolation. [Paul himself is in isolation for sure.] My impression is that my SR7 could be one of the first [if it is not the first - see serial # below] standard production issues from Paul Hynes Design Ltd. Maybe I wouldn’t have been offered the Turbo version but for the delay – since Stephen only offered it as an option a couple of weeks ago: The design as standard now includes a current overload protection circuit, an optimised thermal shutoff system and the soft start module I may have mentioned before. Whilst I was waiting for the boards back, I finalised the building of the "Turbo" modules that have been so successful in the SR4 for compatibility in the SR5+SR7 power supplies. I would like to know whether you would like to have these included in your build before I progress - I wouldn't like to send you the power supply and then for you to find out next week that you could have Turbo! The cost would be £70.00 per rail if you are interested. I snapped up the offer, paying an additional £140 for the 19V/10A and 12V/12A rails. Total cost for my SR7T £1,540 plus shipping and PayPal fees (thus adding another c. £100). Spec for spec against Sean Jacobs’ PSs (a hypothetical - I know!), this seems like good value for money. [A direct comparison will be thwarted inevitably by the unlikely availability of both a PH and a SJ with similar specs under one roof.] The serial number of my unit is T7001. Acknowledging @Nenon's enthusiasm for Mundorf Silver/Gold – I take credit otherwise for building my cables - hinged on avid reading on AS over quite some time - combined with having built my own cables before (including a Digital AES with Duelund Silver Ribbon 1.0 at its core) – and using my own engineering imagination, given my system hardware parameters. The cables I built in anticipation of the arrival of the SR7T included: - DC Cable for the etherREGEN running off the SR7T’s 12V outlet. [Until now I have been using the stock Uptone PS with a Ground.] My custom cable is heavily shielded tied to chassis ground at the SR7T end. The 2 cores are Mundorf SGW115 [1 yellow, 1 white]. - DC Cable for the HDPLEX 800W ATX Converter mounted on a side panel of my Streacom F12C. The 6 cores [3 yellow, 3 white] are SGW110. The cable is heavily shielded tied to chassis ground at the SR7T end. - 24-pin HDPLEX Converter to mobo custom loom. The Mundorfs are shrouded in shrink where colours approximate convention. A small # wires unrelated to music signal are ordinary copper. All the Mundorfs are SGW115. - CPU comprising 6 x SWG115 being 3 x 12V [yellow] and 3 x 0V [white]. There is a JSSG-type shield around the yellows and whites respectively. - PCIe assisting 2 CPU-direct AICs – one being 280Gb Optane with o/s and prn music [my Library is constantly modded wrt tags], the other an Intel X540-T2. NB: My system is Dante/RedNet. [I loathe USB.] The cable has 4 SGW115 cores total [2 yellow, 2 white], and is heavily shielded with a JSSG-style outer wire connecting the two ends. I didn’t record the construction of these cables with photos. I guess I just wasn’t motivated enough to add to the demands of the whole project. From the photos below, nevertheless, one can see the cables in situ today. I am really happy that (i) they all just work as expected and (ii) they fit physically - exactly as measured in advance of the SR7T's landing. The story behind purchase of my SR7T began last Sept./Oct. - seems like ages ago now. I had an HDPLEX 400 ATX LPSU which was great. I asked Larry about the new version. He said it would be only a month till it was available. He took my existing LPSU as a trade-in. Great service. Then it turned out it would be simply months and months to wait. So I bought an EVGA SuperNOVA 550 G3, 80 Plus Gold as a stopgap. This PS has an ECO mode which keeps the fan off to a power threshold which I would never reach. It has been a really amazing little unit. Not at all bad SQ too! I heartily recommend it to anyone needing something less expensive than a good LPSU. Once I decided to use an HDPLEX 800W Converter no matter what, Larry was good enough to discount the 800W Converter to compensate for the inconvenience. More great service. But I have had possession of it since the beginning of the year, not knowing whether it would work! Fortunately it’s fine. The arrival of the SR7T has heralded multiple changes: - SR7T vs. stock PS for the etherREGEN; - SR7T vs. HDPLEX 400 ATX and then EVGA 550 PS for the PC; - HDPLEX 800W Converter; - all my custom cables. Accordingly I can’t comment on SQ deltas for single components without adding much qualification. What I can say is that immediately on re-fixing my system, SQ is comparatively: - effortless – doesn’t have to try so hard (not that I noticed “trying” prior); - cleaner and more detailed; - enhanced wrt stereo – the sort of effect I obtained a long time ago from vertically bi-amping my cherished Snell Type A III; - just more “natural” – and I notice with relish the ease of female voice e.g. Alison Krauss. I write only 2-3 hours after pressing “play” for the first time – and fully expect a cooking advantage over the next 2-3 weeks. I’m sure already that this has been a good purchase. I’m quite convinced that Stephen and his colleagues want PHD Ltd. to be a success. I'm glad to have the first SR7T if not any SR7. The Streacom cases match nicely. I declare myself free from expectation bias – and all other manner of subjective corruption. Transformers etc to the rhs - out of picture. Heavy cabling under the floor. Hidden engineering behind central mustard furniture. lwr, RickyV, NanoSword and 9 others 7 5 Link to comment
internethandle Posted May 2, 2020 Share Posted May 2, 2020 Thanks for that write up and the photos. Extremely impressive job on that cabling, especially your tackling of the 24 pin! PHD really does seem to be thriving under the standard production arrangement with Stephen & co. -- I'm aware there will still be some desiring more esoteric builds from Paul himself and consequently facing the same issues with respect to very long lead times, but having a lineup of supplies available within a reliable timetable really helps make the value of their products more evident to more people. I've been so happy with my SR4T that, only five days in, I'm considering doubling down and placing another order. Iving 1 Link to comment
Popular Post Iving Posted May 5, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted May 5, 2020 On 5/2/2020 at 2:07 PM, Iving said: My Paul Hynes SR7T just arrived. Eagle-eyed readers will have spotted the T! It was ordered late Dec./early Jan. as an SR7. The anticipated delivery date was March. So we’re 1-2 months behind. I don’t think that has much to do with Coronavirus, although Stephen is flying solo with all his colleagues in isolation. [Paul himself is in isolation for sure.] My impression is that my SR7 could be one of the first [if it is not the first - see serial # below] standard production issues from Paul Hynes Design Ltd. Maybe I wouldn’t have been offered the Turbo version but for the delay – since Stephen only offered it as an option a couple of weeks ago: The design as standard now includes a current overload protection circuit, an optimised thermal shutoff system and the soft start module I may have mentioned before. Whilst I was waiting for the boards back, I finalised the building of the "Turbo" modules that have been so successful in the SR4 for compatibility in the SR5+SR7 power supplies. I would like to know whether you would like to have these included in your build before I progress - I wouldn't like to send you the power supply and then for you to find out next week that you could have Turbo! The cost would be £70.00 per rail if you are interested. I snapped up the offer, paying an additional £140 for the 19V/10A and 12V/12A rails. Total cost for my SR7T £1,540 plus shipping and PayPal fees (thus adding another c. £100). Spec for spec against Sean Jacobs’ PSs (a hypothetical - I know!), this seems like good value for money. [A direct comparison will be thwarted inevitably by the unlikely availability of both a PH and a SJ with similar specs under one roof.] The serial number of my unit is T7001. Acknowledging @Nenon's enthusiasm for Mundorf Silver/Gold – I take credit otherwise for building my cables - hinged on avid reading on AS over quite some time - combined with having built my own cables before (including a Digital AES with Duelund Silver Ribbon 1.0 at its core) – and using my own engineering imagination, given my system hardware parameters. The cables I built in anticipation of the arrival of the SR7T included: - DC Cable for the etherREGEN running off the SR7T’s 12V outlet. [Until now I have been using the stock Uptone PS with a Ground.] My custom cable is heavily shielded tied to chassis ground at the SR7T end. The 2 cores are Mundorf SGW115 [1 yellow, 1 white]. - DC Cable for the HDPLEX 800W ATX Converter mounted on a side panel of my Streacom F12C. The 6 cores [3 yellow, 3 white] are SGW110. The cable is heavily shielded tied to chassis ground at the SR7T end. - 24-pin HDPLEX Converter to mobo custom loom. The Mundorfs are shrouded in shrink where colours approximate convention. A small # wires unrelated to music signal are ordinary copper. All the Mundorfs are SGW115. - CPU comprising 6 x SWG115 being 3 x 12V [yellow] and 3 x 0V [white]. There is a JSSG-type shield around the yellows and whites respectively. - PCIe assisting 2 CPU-direct AICs – one being 280Gb Optane with o/s and prn music [my Library is constantly modded wrt tags], the other an Intel X540-T2. NB: My system is Dante/RedNet. [I loathe USB.] The cable has 4 SGW115 cores total [2 yellow, 2 white], and is heavily shielded with a JSSG-style outer wire connecting the two ends. I didn’t record the construction of these cables with photos. I guess I just wasn’t motivated enough to add to the demands of the whole project. From the photos below, nevertheless, one can see the cables in situ today. I am really happy that (i) they all just work as expected and (ii) they fit physically - exactly as measured in advance of the SR7T's landing. The story behind purchase of my SR7T began last Sept./Oct. - seems like ages ago now. I had an HDPLEX 400 ATX LPSU which was great. I asked Larry about the new version. He said it would be only a month till it was available. He took my existing LPSU as a trade-in. Great service. Then it turned out it would be simply months and months to wait. So I bought an EVGA SuperNOVA 550 G3, 80 Plus Gold as a stopgap. This PS has an ECO mode which keeps the fan off to a power threshold which I would never reach. It has been a really amazing little unit. Not at all bad SQ too! I heartily recommend it to anyone needing something less expensive than a good LPSU. Once I decided to use an HDPLEX 800W Converter no matter what, Larry was good enough to discount the 800W Converter to compensate for the inconvenience. More great service. But I have had possession of it since the beginning of the year, not knowing whether it would work! Fortunately it’s fine. The arrival of the SR7T has heralded multiple changes: - SR7T vs. stock PS for the etherREGEN; - SR7T vs. HDPLEX 400 ATX and then EVGA 550 PS for the PC; - HDPLEX 800W Converter; - all my custom cables. Accordingly I can’t comment on SQ deltas for single components without adding much qualification. What I can say is that immediately on re-fixing my system, SQ is comparatively: - effortless – doesn’t have to try so hard (not that I noticed “trying” prior); - cleaner and more detailed; - enhanced wrt stereo – the sort of effect I obtained a long time ago from vertically bi-amping my cherished Snell Type A III; - just more “natural” – and I notice with relish the ease of female voice e.g. Alison Krauss. I write only 2-3 hours after pressing “play” for the first time – and fully expect a cooking advantage over the next 2-3 weeks. I’m sure already that this has been a good purchase. I’m quite convinced that Stephen and his colleagues want PHD Ltd. to be a success. I'm glad to have the first SR7T if not any SR7. The Streacom cases match nicely. I declare myself free from expectation bias – and all other manner of subjective corruption. Transformers etc to the rhs - out of picture. Heavy cabling under the floor. Hidden engineering behind central mustard furniture. Quick update at 80 hours or 3½ days ... Adjacent to my PC which is housed in its Streacom F12C case, the SR7T looks deceptively diminutive in its matching FC9 Alpha. I say "deceptively" because the SR7T is comfortably muscular. It exerts "calm control" [a Yang to its owner so to speak - rather like my wife]. My Isotek and iFi AC shunts have always made a difference. If a permutation of them "locks in", I try to leave it alone. In my Isotek Sirius (please see system if interested), a shunt works well adjacent to the sensitive D16 AES as if "protecting it". In the past I have avoided this shunt because I thought, at times, I could hear colouration at loud volume levels that didn't feature if I located the shunt elsewhere. I can't explain it. I put it down to my power amps - and put them on my upgrade list! Well that has changed for sure. Now I can lodge an iFi AC purifier next to the RedNet interface [in the Sirius as described] - reaping the accompanying improvement including extension of bass, and crank up the volume without hearing distortion of note at all. Well - unless very loud - but then I hear the kind of break up I would expect to hear. At this point, however, I fear (probably unnecessarily) for my speaker drivers - so the issue is irrelevant. Summary: the SR7T is giving me clean, brawny power right across the listening volume range. The SQ elevation overall is unmistakeable. Just depth, detail and dynamic. The delta is very significant. There is no mistake. The music is strikingly more "natural" as I noticed immediately three days ago. The stereo effect I mentioned is worthy of re-statement. There is a great separation of everything - like a glorious firework! These very tangible improvements are co-contingent on 12V from the SR7T to the etherREGEN (in place of the stock Uptone PS). Whilst, logically, one could attribute all SQ extras to upgraded eR power, my guess is that much more than half of the improvement is in the PC. Either way, perhaps @Superdad overstated the redundancy one might expect with the eR - specifically (i) favourable upstream tweaks and (ii) effect of clean power to the eR itself. Don't get me wrong - the eR is a treasured component in my OFFLINE ethernet-based chain where it sits PC > eR > RedNet D16 AES > DAC. I know I could A/B PSs to the eR to investigate further - but it's not a high priority. I planned it this way [2 outlets being 19V/10A to the PC via HDPLEX 800W Converter + 12V dedicated to the eR] - and what is happening is good. [I forgot to mention in my earlier post that several V/A combos are possible with the SR7/T - up to 4 in one case if I am not mistaken - see the Paul Hynes web site for more info.] Although I don't imagine that 80 hours or 3½ days represents full SR7T burn-in, I'll only post again if something qualitatively different emerges. I just wanted to say that enhancements are being realised as expected, and that I am completely satisfied with the SR7T. I am not affiliated with Paul Hynes (or Uptone!) - just a happy punter - for the record! auricgoldfinger, Exocer, HeeBroG and 2 others 1 3 1 Link to comment
Popular Post austinpop Posted May 5, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted May 5, 2020 @Iving Congratulations on your SR7T, and I, of course, am not surprised to hear of your positive experiences. I thought I'd suggest one more experiment for you to consider. Do you have another "good" 12V PSU available - for example, an LPS-1.2, SR4, Farad, etc? If so, use it to power the EtherRegen. This frees up the 12V/12A rail on your SR7T to... ...independently power the CPU via the EPS (8-pin Molex) port on your motherboard. You'll of course need an XLR to 8-pin Molex cable, or an adapter from 5.5x2.1 barrel to 8-pin Molex. Ghent Audio can build you these. The outcome of this experiment is not necessarily clear. I do know that independently powering the CPU via a separate beefy 12v rail does wonders to the SQ of the server. However, it is also true that the ER benefits greatly from an SR7-quality PSU, so you'd be downgrading the ER PSU relative to your current baseline. Still, you may find that the net effect is better than what you currently have. lwr, bit01, NanoSword and 1 other 3 1 My Audio Setup Link to comment
Iving Posted May 5, 2020 Share Posted May 5, 2020 31 minutes ago, austinpop said: @Iving Congratulations on your SR7T, and I, of course, am not surprised to hear of your positive experiences. I thought I'd suggest one more experiment for you to consider. Do you have another "good" 12V PSU available - for example, an LPS-1.2, SR4, Farad, etc? If so, use it to power the EtherRegen. This frees up the 12V/12A rail on your SR7T to... ...independently power the CPU via the EPS (8-pin Molex) port on your motherboard. You'll of course need an XLR to 8-pin Molex cable, or an adapter from 5.5x2.1 barrel to 8-pin Molex. Ghent Audio can build you these. The outcome of this experiment is not necessarily clear. I do know that independently powering the CPU via a separate beefy 12v rail does wonders to the SQ of the server. However, it is also true that the ER benefits greatly from an SR7-quality PSU, so you'd be downgrading the ER PSU relative to your current baseline. Still, you may find that the net effect is better than what you currently have. Thank you for your thoughts. Being a reader of the "novel" thread I was aware of this possibility. A sig. constraint is building cables. I make my own. They are highly shielded and end up stiff. They are precisely measured to hardware. What I am saying is that once I committed a good length of expensive Mundorf Silver/Gold plus extra materials to making the eR cable terminating in a DC barrel plug, I can't now easily re-deploy the same wire to a molex job for the CPU. I'd have to build another very expensive cable just to do the experiment. (And the first cable would be wasted.) So I kinda had to commit to one or the other - and this is the permutation I chose. It has crossed my mind to get an SR4T for the eR and use the SR7T 12V for the CPU ... but (we have confidence in the HDPLEX 800W Converter, right, and anyway) I don't want too many such thoughts to cross my mind ... and my hobby fund is depleted! If ever I do it, I'll be sure to post. I sure hope to read other SR7 experiences on this Thread. austinpop 1 Link to comment
Popular Post bit01 Posted November 14, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted November 14, 2020 @Iving - I agree that the SR7T is a great PS. I have it powering the HDPlex 800W DC-ATX converter as well. Unfortunately I have no proper baseline to compare it to. I ordered it Jan, but the transformer was only delivered to PHD in Aug (Covid issues) and I received mine shortly after that. I have tried these power cords with it. I find that in my setup, they offer different SQ - listed below in the order of preference (best liked first) DIY using Furutech Cable FP-S022N (bulk) Audioquest NRG-3 (old style with the ferrites) Audioquest NRG-5 (as above) DIY using Gutwire B-12 I was curious as to what your different power cord experiences are with the SR7T (if any) and what wire you use? Regarding the EPS 12V - I find the 800W EPS to be quite good. However powering the cpu from the separate rail seems to give a bit more low level detail. Again the comparison is not ideal as different cables are used and my second rail is at 19V, so I pass it through a Sean Jacobs regulator to 12V+ 2 current boosters. All in all- quite happy. PHD SR7T-->HDPlex 800W -->Gigabyte Z490/i9-10900K (alt. EPSvia 2nd 19V rail --> SJ 12V Reg/boosters) ATB. b. NanoSword and Exocer 2 Link to comment
highstream Posted November 14, 2020 Share Posted November 14, 2020 rIf it helps at all, I can tell what I’ve done re power cables with an SR4 that feeds an iFi spdif iPurifier, on a run from a modified Oppo 203 to a Lampi TRP dac. I did two things: first, I use a PS Audio AC-12 power cord from one their regenerators. That cord has very good SQ but is now only available on the used market (beware of counterfeits). Second, I started with Paul’s silver output line, but found it bright, so had Dave at Zenwave Audio make me a NOOCC (sp?) copper cable, which turned out really good sonically (the only downside is he didn’t want to deal with a micro-USB connector, which the iFI needs, so I’ve had to use adapters from China, which are fragile and also a delicate connection). bit01 1 Link to comment
Popular Post bit01 Posted December 1, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted December 1, 2020 On 11/13/2020 at 10:03 PM, bit01 said: .. I have tried these power cords with it. I find that in my setup, they offer different SQ - listed below in the order of preference (best liked first) DIY using Furutech Cable FP-S022N (bulk) Audioquest NRG-3 (old style with the ferrites) Audioquest NRG-5 (as above) DIY using Gutwire B-12 .. ATB. b. I am adding this bulk Furutech AC cable to the list and it goes up top as best SQ yet - ease of flow, more 'liquid' (sweet on top and extended well defined lows). Similar tech as the FP-S022N above, only fatter - 12AWG Very good match for the twin rail SR7T. Furutech Cable FP-S032N AC Power Cable (bulk) 1 M lwr and Exocer 2 Link to comment
Exocer Posted December 1, 2020 Share Posted December 1, 2020 1 hour ago, bit01 said: I am adding this bulk Furutech AC cable to the list and it goes up top as best SQ yet - ease of flow, more 'liquid' (sweet on top and extended well defined lows). Similar tech as the FP-S022N above, only fatter - 12AWG Very good match for the twin rail SR7T. Furutech Cable FP-S032N AC Power Cable (bulk) 1 M Thank you. Which connectors are you using with this bulk cable? Link to comment
bit01 Posted December 1, 2020 Share Posted December 1, 2020 @ExocerI am currently using some old left over Wattgate & Furutech (with a cracked clamp) but I am waiting for these to arrive - I used these on the FP-S022N - they are heavy but good quality/value, and seem durable! https://www.partsconnexion.com/CONNEX-83387.html (no affiliation) ATB b. Exocer 1 Link to comment
Exocer Posted December 1, 2020 Share Posted December 1, 2020 9 minutes ago, bit01 said: @ExocerI am currently using some old left over Wattgate & Furutech (with a cracked clamp) but I am waiting for these to arrive - I used these on the FP-S022N - they are heavy but good quality/value, and seem durable! https://www.partsconnexion.com/CONNEX-83387.html (no affiliation) ATB b. Thank you. I also had my eye on these 😎. Link to comment
Popular Post Nenon Posted December 1, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted December 1, 2020 11 minutes ago, bit01 said: @ExocerI am currently using some old left over Wattgate & Furutech (with a cracked clamp) but I am waiting for these to arrive - I used these on the FP-S022N - they are heavy but good quality/value, and seem durable! https://www.partsconnexion.com/CONNEX-83387.html (no affiliation) ATB b. Just now, Exocer said: Thank you. I also had my eye on these 😎. It's funny when they do that: "USD $49.95 USD $149.95 You Save USD $100.00 (67%)" It makes you think you are saving $100 when you are actually overpaying. https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005001726401438.html lwr, Exocer and bit01 1 2 Industry disclosure: https://chicagohifi.com Dealer for: Taiko Audio, Conrad Johnson, Audio Mirror, and Sean Jacobs Link to comment
Exocer Posted December 1, 2020 Share Posted December 1, 2020 4 minutes ago, Nenon said: It's funny when they do that: "USD $49.95 USD $149.95 You Save USD $100.00 (67%)" It makes you think you are saving $100 when you are actually overpaying. https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005001726401438.html Good find @Nenon! Thank you. Surely they're identical. Link to comment
bit01 Posted December 1, 2020 Share Posted December 1, 2020 16 minutes ago, Nenon said: It's funny when they do that: "USD $49.95 USD $149.95 You Save USD $100.00 (67%)" It makes you think you are saving $100 when you are actually overpaying. https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005001726401438.html Wow - that is a shocking price! I will try and get PcX 's view on this!? If these are identical I certainly will get some. Link to comment
Popular Post Dev Posted December 1, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted December 1, 2020 There are a lot of similar carbon fiber IEC/Plug on ebay - some good and some bad. One friend compared a bunch of them. Chris (PcX) probably sources them from the same place where these are made. I have bought from this seller and they don't sound bad but not same as the NCF. https://www.ebay.com/itm/Carbon-Fiber-Rhodium-Plated-US-Power-Plug-Power-Connector-IEC-Plug/203190267854?hash=item2f4f156fce:g:jCoAAOSw8oFX0Qz1 bit01 and Exocer 1 1 Link to comment
bit01 Posted December 1, 2020 Share Posted December 1, 2020 Are they knockoffs of this one? https://www.partsconnexion.com/media/pdfs/FTECH-71425.pdf pricey https://www.partsconnexion.com/FTECH-71425.html I hate the way the clamping screw on many connectors go through the clamping jaws and the wire has to find space around it. https://u.nu/clamp Why not just make them like a regular vice? Isn't this the better way for assembly? http://www.wattgate.com/products/330rhevo/ https://www.partsconnexion.com/WGATE-78862.html Link to comment
highstream Posted December 1, 2020 Share Posted December 1, 2020 Mark up on cables and their parts is enormous. I just watched a video of Steve Guttenberg interview Andy Singer, owner of Sound by Singer in NYC, where he talked about how cables are the way dealers make up the difference when customers demand big discounts on components when buying a system. That said, I’d be careful with aliexpress, as it’s known that some of its items are counterfeit or misleadingly advertised knockoffs. I use a PS Audio AC-12 for my SR4, but the low voltage cable from it is just as important. As I wrote here awhile back, I found Paul’s silver lead bright and went to Dave Cahoon of ZenWave audio to make me a copper one. He used Neotech UPOOC high quality copper and it made a big difference. Link to comment
Dev Posted December 1, 2020 Share Posted December 1, 2020 1 hour ago, bit01 said: Are they knockoffs of this one? https://www.partsconnexion.com/media/pdfs/FTECH-71425.pdf pricey https://www.partsconnexion.com/FTECH-71425.html All of them are either knockoff or replicas of the Furutech FI-50 with carbon fiber shell. For the price difference, the replicas doesn't actually sound bad. There are many cable manufacturers who uses these as well. I think its worth to try them to see if it matches better than the copper version. Link to comment
Dev Posted December 1, 2020 Share Posted December 1, 2020 10 minutes ago, highstream said: Mark up on cables and their parts is enormous. I just watched a video of Steve Guttenberg interview Andy Singer, owner of Sound by Singer in NYC, where he talked about how cables are the way dealers make up the difference when customers demand big discounts on components when buying a system. That said, I’d be careful with aliexpress, as it’s known that some of its items are counterfeit or misleadingly advertised knockoffs. I agree. Some from Aliexpress actually sound pretty horrible than the ones from Ebay or PcX. Link to comment
bit01 Posted December 1, 2020 Share Posted December 1, 2020 13 hours ago, bit01 said: Wow - that is a shocking price! I will try and get PcX 's view on this!? If these are identical I certainly will get some. from pcX (Chris) re:Aliexpress ones "Ours are a base material of copper….not brass." Nenon 1 Link to comment
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