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Article: McIntosh D1100 Digital Preamplifier DAC Review - Part  Two

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That's funny because McIntosh (Ron) told me to either use JRiver only and double click the pause button or not play DSD256 files at all because they are too big when I reported the near speaker damaging popping on playback stop or start with my C47 preamp.

 

Apparently you have to be a reviewer before they will treat you as anything more than an idiot.


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4 minutes ago, Dr Tone said:

 

Apparently you have to be a reviewer before they will treat you as anything more than an idiot.

 

I hear your frustration but it not the case at all. McIntosh actually fixed this issue due to customer feedback, long before I found the issue. 


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9 minutes ago, The Computer Audiophile said:

 

I hear your frustration but it not the case at all. McIntosh actually fixed this issue due to customer feedback, long before I found the issue. 

 

I guess my C47 isn't high enough up the food chain.


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Being the nudge that I am, where's your review of the dCS Network Bridge?  I see it's still on your Associated Equipment list (though the Rossini seems to have disappeared).  And I recommend that if you've not already done so, install the Berkeley Ref. firmware update.  Does great things for PCM, and it offers up MQA rendering as well (though I've yet to bother with that aspect; happy enough with redbook and high res. on from my NAS box).


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I am glad to hear this.  I am really considering one of these as a DAC only and getting rid of one of my Luxman DA06s.  I have to admit the looks of the thing alone are tempting, but to hear it also sounds great is nice too.  I think this and the MP1100 would look nice in my system!


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12 minutes ago, AudioDoctor said:

 

 

Were you dealing with McIntosh or a Dealer?

 

I said Ron from McIntosh in my original post.


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16 minutes ago, AudioDoctor said:

I think I know why you had the reaction you did.

 

How long ago did you ask them about this?  Was it before they had a fix?

 

Mar-Apr.  What fix?  As far as I know there is no fix for the C47, C52 or C2600 Native DSD popping issue.  From Chris's review it sounds like they implemented some type of fade in and fade out to reduce it with the D1100.


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17 minutes ago, Dr Tone said:

 

Mar-Apr.  What fix?  As far as I know there is no fix for the C47, C52 or C2600 Native DSD popping issue.  From Chris's review it sounds like they implemented some type of fade in and fade out to reduce it with the D1100.

 

 

Ah, so your problem isn't with the D1100 being used with your pre-amp...  Hmmm.  Did you see the part in Chris's review where he said every DAC on the planet has that same problem, but different ways of dealing with it?


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22 minutes ago, AudioDoctor said:

 

 

Ah, so your problem isn't with the D1100 being used with your pre-amp...  Hmmm.  Did you see the part in Chris's review where he said every DAC on the planet has that same problem, but different ways of dealing with it?

 

I'm not trying to find a solution as I've moved on and this is all getting way off topic.  I was just reacting to his praise of Mcintosh's support with the D1100 when I've had the exact opposite experience with them.  That's all.


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Anyone know Macintosh's position on MQA? I have a D100 and really like it with my WA5 headphone amp. My main system right now is using a Brooklyn Dac with Pass .8 amps and it's kinda so-so to me.

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On 8/31/2017 at 8:48 AM, Dr Tone said:

 

I guess my C47 isn't high enough up the food chain.

HI Dr. Tone

 

I had a problem with an evaluation C47 in December, 2015.  Lots of static and noise on the USB connection.  When I asked the dealer about the problem, he said he had an older C47 and that McIntosh was sending a new evaluation unit with the fix in place.

 

We haven't had any problems with the unit we purchased.  I notice that it takes a second for the first song to start but there aren't pauses after that - I don't even notice a pause on format/sample rate transitions.  I have a Mac Mini and use Roon almost exclusively for playback and occasionally JRiver (version 21).

 

Sorry you've had such a different experience.  

 

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12 hours ago, markwb said:

Anyone know Macintosh's position on MQA? I have a D100 and really like it with my WA5 headphone amp. My main system right now is using a Brooklyn Dac with Pass .8 amps and it's kinda so-so to me.

 

I contacted them about MQA upgrades for the C47.  McIntosh replied that they would not.  Here is the rationale...

 

Any device that received MQA will send unit to the DAXC as PCM, as happens on all data compression schemes like FLAC and what not.

 

Signals up to 24.96 fully unpack from the playback software in your computer, 24/192 would require a hardware change in the DAC to ‘fully’ unpack.  There are not even that many files out there in 24/192 and I guarantee you Tidal is not

streaming 24/192 at all.

 

Here is some different information about MQA from a DAC manufacturer:

 

This is from 6 months ago, but still interesting.

 

http://schiit.com/news/news/why-we-wont-be-supporting-mqa

 

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"Signals up to 24.96 fully unpack from the playback software in your computer, 24/192 would require a hardware change in the DAC to ‘fully’ unpack.  There are not even that many files out there in 24/192 and I guarantee you Tidal is not

streaming 24/192 at all."

 

At least according to my DAC, the MQA file from Tidal for Hotel California is playing at 192/24.

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I am glad to hear this.  I am really considering one of these as a DAC only and getting rid of one of my Luxman DA06s.  I have to admit the looks of the thing alone are tempting, but to hear it also sounds great is nice too.  I think this and the MP1100 would look nice in my system!

 

I just ordered the recently announced MAC7200 Receiver today with the DA1 DAC module.  It will be interesting to hear the differences between that and the D1100 when, or if, I compare the two at a later date.


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On 9/7/2017 at 4:11 PM, markwb said:

I'm also sure I've seen Supertramp and Cars at 24/192 via Tidal.

 

Ive seen much higher than that.  Go play some 2L Classical MQA.


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On 9/7/2017 at 10:53 AM, markwb said:

"Signals up to 24.96 fully unpack from the playback software in your computer, 24/192 would require a hardware change in the DAC to ‘fully’ unpack.  There are not even that many files out there in 24/192 and I guarantee you Tidal is not

streaming 24/192 at all."

 

At least according to my DAC, the MQA file from Tidal for Hotel California is playing at 192/24.

 

Now that's interesting.


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Just purchased a D1100.

 

One word.....WOW!!!!


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I've had mine for 3 weeks and it is amazing.  Stereoplay a German magazine review it last spring and here's what caught my eye!

 

 

"At the very latest, the proverbially serious suspicion in the room is that McIntosh might have set the bar higher with this new device than the potential competitors from his own product range might be fond of. For us it is certainly true: this is the best McIntosh we have ever had before our eyes."

 

 

"The D1100 is the sound surprise even with "simple" 16-bit / 44-kHz data, which is probably the best news to the newcomer. This is highly recommended as a pure DAC and as a preamplifier simply fantastic."

'

 

i''m stunned how good simple internet radio sounds playing through Sonos.. It is an amazing DAC.  Hooked up the C1100 it's Mcintosh at its very BEST.!


McIntosh_D1100_stereoplay_2017-05.pdf

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17 hours ago, JBT said:

I've had mine for 3 weeks and it is amazing.  Stereoplay a German magazine review it last spring and here's what caught my eye!

 

 

"At the very latest, the proverbially serious suspicion in the room is that McIntosh might have set the bar higher with this new device than the potential competitors from his own product range might be fond of. For us it is certainly true: this is the best McIntosh we have ever had before our eyes."

 

 

"The D1100 is the sound surprise even with "simple" 16-bit / 44-kHz data, which is probably the best news to the newcomer. This is highly recommended as a pure DAC and as a preamplifier simply fantastic."

'

 

i''m stunned how good simple internet radio sounds playing through Sonos.. It is an amazing DAC.  Hooked up the C1100 it's Mcintosh at its very BEST.!


McIntosh_D1100_stereoplay_2017-05.pdf

 

 

 

Damnit you guys, I am trying to save money... ;)


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