baconbrain Posted September 25, 2019 Share Posted September 25, 2019 Interesting discussion and good question @Bernstein given that my listening position is also very near wall. Fyi, there is an article in the current edition of HiFi News which dwells on the basics of room treatment. Kind of made my head spin, but interesting. Bernstein 1 Link to comment
baconbrain Posted September 25, 2019 Share Posted September 25, 2019 4 hours ago, Bernstein said: I love this forum! This is the BEST IDEA!!! maybe I could do something with a sliding mechanism to slide it out and slide it in after listening. That could work!!! Appearance is then not so important and after listening I could slide it in...practical!!! so: who will be built me something like that...hopefully my dealer has an answer to it. Or I can buy a wide Absorber and store it as you proposed behind the sofa. Sliding mechanism is more sexy though... Friend of mine had a guy (guru type) come by who walked around his listening room and just clapped his hands. After a bass trap here, and couple of absorbers there, he made some very nonintrusive adjustments to the living / listening space which really made a world of difference. Given that each room is unique and room treatment is a bit complex, perhaps getting an expert opinion from someone who has evaluated your room is an option? I wouldn’t want to hang something on the wall that the first lady doesn’t like and then it doesn’t even have the desired effect in the end. Bernstein 1 Link to comment
baconbrain Posted September 26, 2019 Share Posted September 26, 2019 11 hours ago, ragwo said: Thanks a lot for the info even if it's a real bummer for me. I have the six screws version and I'd love to have the opportunity to use wall mounts to avoid damaged speakers caused by curious children. I actually put mine together as a DIY project before I later discovered that Kii had their own. Given that with my design the speaker sits in a low profile tray, it is complety independent of speaker version and is decoupled from the mount with dampening material. Can send you a parts list / specs if you are interested. ragwo 1 Link to comment
baconbrain Posted September 26, 2019 Share Posted September 26, 2019 1 minute ago, ragwo said: That would be great, thank you very much! Am currently in Italy. Will provide you with the info per PM upon my return this weekend. ragwo 1 Link to comment
Popular Post baconbrain Posted September 27, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted September 27, 2019 1 hour ago, Cazzesman said: Heading there on Tuesday. Florence for 5 days then Tuscany for 14. So, so, so can't wait to get there and just chill. Not sure how much wine and seafood they have in Italy, but I'm thinking it might not be enough. 🙂 I will miss my Kii's, but damn I want to chill, regardless of the longing for good tunes. 🙂 Regards Cazzesman No worries, I believe they have more than enough. 🙂 I am currently on the southern tip of the heel. Excellent weather and fantastic food. Enjoy your trip. Cazzesman and Bernstein 1 1 Link to comment
baconbrain Posted September 29, 2019 Share Posted September 29, 2019 13 hours ago, Bernstein said: Hi guys, I have the KIIs at home since a week and hear sometimes a ping or click noise (once) during warmup or cooldown of the KIIs. I mean I also sometimes experienced this with amps and other devices and I think due to the construction of the KIIs (plastic combined with metal parts with different thermal expansion rate + Metal Parts which also act as heatsinks and get hot) this should be normal and shouldn’t worry me. It happens on both so... But it does worry me (I am a emotional 😭 guy and sometimes irrational) and sometimes to hear from someone else that this is normal can help to have peace of mind Pls disregard, my browser was not up-to-date content wise. Bernstein 1 Link to comment
baconbrain Posted September 29, 2019 Share Posted September 29, 2019 22 minutes ago, Bernstein said: @phosphorein @ragwo Thanks! So this seems to be „normal“ if you also experience it. Perhaps it wouldn't hurt to ask Kii what they think? I do not recall my set ever making a metallic pling noise ... Link to comment
baconbrain Posted September 29, 2019 Share Posted September 29, 2019 3 minutes ago, Bernstein said: It’s sometimes like a click... The guys at Kii Audio should be able to say if it is normal or not. They are usually very quick to respond and have always provided me with excellent support. Link to comment
baconbrain Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 11 hours ago, Yellowspider said: Hello @ all, I´m Steve from Germany and Kii Three owner since May 2019. The Kiis are painted in magma red metallic and I´m using the original stands as well as the Kii control. Digital source is an Auralic Aries with external Sbooster powersupply, connected via USB port. Analog equippement is Platine Verdier with Graham Phantom Tonearm, Zyx cartridge, amplified by Einsteins Turntables Choice. Actually I´m using Groneberg power cables and in front of that a PS Audio P10. Standard ethernet cables. Sound is very resolved without being harsh or edgy. The Speakers are positioned 5,3 ft from front wall, 2,8 ft from side walls, distance between speakers and listening position to speakers 8,5 ft (distances measured from center front of speaker) I´ve had major problems with room modes at 95Hz, 50 Hz, 27 Hz with my passive systems in this room. Now it is much better by using the boundary control (set up to 6) But still those modes are existing. An implemented equalizer / notch filtes would be great to eliminate the last boomy notes. Some of my favourites for the Kii Three Tidal Playlist: Philippe Chretien - Le chat noir Susanne Abbuehl - Bathyal markusphilippe - Pink Panther Felix Laband - Falling Off A Horse Susan Weinert - Die Kraniche BartolomeyBittmann - Glockenturm Carolin No - Waters run deep Greetings from Germany Steve Hi Steve, Welcome to the thread. I have added your songs to our PL and am looking forward to giving them a listen. The kii’s in Magma Red are one of my favorites. Perhaps you could post a pic? Best Regards from Nürnberg Bernstein 1 Link to comment
baconbrain Posted October 3, 2019 Share Posted October 3, 2019 Tonight the Kii's are groovin in Vinyl ... Bernstein 1 Link to comment
baconbrain Posted October 3, 2019 Share Posted October 3, 2019 1 minute ago, Bernstein said: @baconbrain Please don’t hit me and put away the vinyls: These are some playlists from KII Audio for our mega super playlist! Special thanks to Chris Reichardt for sharing them 🤘 https://tidal.com/browse/playlist/59aaa8fc-5a2f-4517-8f5f-5d1803fb9226 https://tidal.com/browse/playlist/5295af12-e609-425b-8629-51124e77782c https://tidal.com/browse/playlist/406ab5ed-8d32-46c2-a174-bc364532225f https://tidal.com/browse/playlist/f5301f8f-39cc-4b61-9393-ead805deb148 https://tidal.com/browse/playlist/6536bbc5-7752-4ba2-a794-247c294e2316 https://tidal.com/browse/playlist/1b79cd69-4e4d-4076-b7b4-f65582025f2b Mega! 😲 Now I am really going to have to figure out how I can sort by genre ... Link to comment
Popular Post baconbrain Posted October 3, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted October 3, 2019 They are in: https://listen.tidal.com/playlist/768432eb-b8ba-4a1d-b90a-a4c9a9ba8d85 452 Tracks in total but not yet sorted or checked for duplicates Bernstein and ragwo 2 Link to comment
baconbrain Posted October 3, 2019 Share Posted October 3, 2019 17 minutes ago, Bernstein said: Usually the playlists of KII are in Qobuz. Proposal: if somebody could export the playlist in roon, you would be able to import it and roon will sort out the sources (Tidal or Qobuz). Guys, let me work on it and I will get back to you. Bernstein 1 Link to comment
baconbrain Posted October 31, 2019 Share Posted October 31, 2019 My Kii Control is powered down and both speakers are in standby mode and then a message appears on the display of the control saying "Waiting for Speaker". Any ideas what that means? Link to comment
baconbrain Posted October 31, 2019 Share Posted October 31, 2019 43 minutes ago, Bernstein said: IMPORTANT!!! After reset on the backside the KII go to 100% volume!!! Please adjust it before you start anything. 100 Volume is not harmful due to the Limiter, but your ears... Thanks for the info but after starting the Control the message luckily went away. Will refer back to your advice if it happens again. Maybe it has something to do with Halloween ... 👻 Bernstein 1 Link to comment
baconbrain Posted November 1, 2019 Share Posted November 1, 2019 5 hours ago, ragwo said: I get the same message when the ethernet cable between the master speaker and the Control is disconnected and the USB input is connected to a source. The Control is powered by the USB input when not connected to the master speaker. My master speaker is powering the Control when in standby. Has this problem just occurred? Have you tried turning off the master speaker for a while? Does the problem still persist? Are you able to get the speakers out of standby when the message shows? Edit: I'm way too slow responding. Glad the problem is solved. Note to self: Update browser regularly Even if somewhat delayed (also have the browser refresh challenge... ), I still appreciate the response. My master is also powering the control and am hoping that it was possibly due to the ethernet cable not being completely seated. Time will tell. Did you make any progress with your DIY project? Link to comment
baconbrain Posted November 1, 2019 Share Posted November 1, 2019 29 minutes ago, Craig1512 said: Been enjoying reading your posts and HT setup journey over on Devialetchat @ragwo I came from a dev 440Pro and B&W 802 D2 to Kii three and never going back. The dev phantoms are an amazing active speaker for the money and I encourage anyone interested in active speaker technology to check out the Devialetchat forum. Again, @ragwo HT set up journey is an interesting one to read for anyone thinking going active HT. I have not been keeping up with Phantom HT topic lately but it‘s a bit of a shame that Devialet doesn‘t get serious about it. There is so much potential ... Link to comment
baconbrain Posted February 3, 2020 Share Posted February 3, 2020 22 hours ago, firedog said: I made it simpler. Used Audiolense to measure the room and create correction filters, then put the filters into Roon for playback. Eliminates all the playing around, and is probably more accurate. My Trinnov makes it even simpler. It measures, creates and applies the correction filters at more or less the press of a button. Still, I was wondering if some of you could possibly recommend some good reference literature as I find the topic incredibly interesting? Link to comment
baconbrain Posted February 4, 2020 Share Posted February 4, 2020 Adding a bit to my previous question in regards to reference material, I stumbled across the following which is the first in series of articles published by @mitchco Link to comment
baconbrain Posted February 5, 2020 Share Posted February 5, 2020 1 hour ago, Yellowspider said: I´ve had the chance to test Innuos Zenith MK3 via USB, Hifiakademie Netplayer via Spdif and Auralic Aries Mini via Optical input. I did play the same Music on all three units parallel. The stream came from my NAS. Innuos had the tracks directly on it´s ssd. They were sounding slightly different, if you listen very! carefully. (Maybe a highend afficionado would call this Milestones, I won´t) Regarding the money and the benefit in sound quality there could only be one hero in this setup. I think you can guess right 🙂 I did this comparison by switching through the sources via Kii Control remote, and managed to get the right track time allignement . So there were no time breaks by switching between the sources. This should eliminate psycho acoustics. My friend with the Aries took part in this session. We had the same opinion according to the sound quality. But give it a try in your surrounding. I think, it´s easy to compare. Interesting results. My personal experiences have been somewhat different over time. For me, the connection type (USB, Coax, or Optical), their respective interconnects, and source have influenced SQ. I tend to believe that it is the right mix of each that really makes a difference in the end. Make sense? Link to comment
baconbrain Posted February 5, 2020 Share Posted February 5, 2020 5 minutes ago, H665 said: Guess I’ll have to plan a few demo’s. +1 Ultimately the best option Link to comment
baconbrain Posted February 9, 2020 Share Posted February 9, 2020 4 hours ago, H665 said: I moved from a fully activ Linn system (Majik DSM, C6200, Miso’s) to Kii. It’s a good bit of kit but the move to Exakt would have cost me as much as my demo Kii’s. So I sold off all but the DSM. Linn is good as a total system. As individual components...mwah. Needs very careful matching imo. I purchased an ex demo streamer from a small Dutch company, Audio Aan Zee. Custom built with mostly off the shelf components and a bit of tweaking here and there. https://www.hifi-advice.com/blog/review/digital-reviews/music-server-reviews/audioaanzee-reference-flow-music-server-part1/ Nice looking music server! Link to comment
baconbrain Posted February 10, 2020 Share Posted February 10, 2020 14 hours ago, H665 said: And it sounds even better I have a modified version that also has Roon server installed. Very nice, I think the Roon interface is second to none. Also find it quite interesting how many Dutch companies build excellent music servers. (Taiko, Pink Faun, Audioanzee, ..) Must have something to do with the climate! 🙂 Link to comment
baconbrain Posted February 16, 2020 Share Posted February 16, 2020 4 hours ago, Cazzesman said: Now the Kii’s have the high and low pass filters in the dsp, has anyone tried adding a quality sub or 2 into the mix. I’m wondering what a sub would do in freeing up the Kii’s where a crossover was set 60-80. It is not that the kii’s don’t go low enough as i get 20htz easily in my room, but I was just wondering about the advantages if any of taking some of the pressure off them. Any thoughts. I like the look of the SVS SB3000 with the new SVS App to tune it. Regards Cazzesman Here‘s some past feedback from Kii Audio regarding crossover settings: Imo a SW really adds a lot to the Kii experience once they are correctly dialed-in. Cazzesman 1 Link to comment
baconbrain Posted February 17, 2020 Share Posted February 17, 2020 I have a question to the community regarding the analog connections of the Kii's. How is the analog signal handled by the internal DAC's of the speakers? Does it go through an ADA conversion for each driver or is it simply passed through? My assumption would be ADA, but am a bit uncertain since I have never used them until now, Thanks Link to comment
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