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sbenyo

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sbenyo

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I am trying to setup HQPlayer on windows 10 with another windows 10 as NAA.

I am running the networkauodiod.exe on the NAA PC and try to connect from the other PC.

 

No matter what I do I the HQPlayer cannot see the NAA.

I tried to add firewall permissions, run without antivirus but with not success. Any ideas?

 

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I disable firewall and it still doesn't work. I don't know how to test multicast.

I did find a simple program to send packets and I could send packets to the NAA host:port and I see that it got them. I still don't understand why HQPlayer itself cannot see it.

 

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After trying different setting on the router I can see the NAA from sometime but it is very unstable and keeps coming and going. I changed from wifi connection to cable and things got better. I can now see the NAA and it is more stable.

 

Now I am trying to play DSD...

I could get as high as DSD128 with minor lags but DSD256 & DSD512 are completely staggering. :(

CPU varies between 20%-50%.

 

I am using an i7-quad (old) with 8GB and SSD. It is strange that I cannot play even DSD128 properly. I saw some people saying that minimum specs they could run DSD are much lower.

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asdf1000

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Hi @Miska

 

I'm struggling to get Windows NAA working. Run-time is installed. ASIO driver is spotted by NAA.

 

ASIO driver works fine with DSD512 with Roon too.

 

See attached screenshots ?

 

I only use certified USB 2.0 cables and I tried multiple.

 

All Windows 10 firewalls disabled and still can't get it working.

 

Asus RT-AC88U router. Multicast enabled.

 

1534008727_Screenshot(1).thumb.png.e528431e1d874e77b71cd05867f79bc5.png

 

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HQPe here:

  

stopping...
  2018/08/21 11:33:22 Web configuration written
  2018/08/21 11:33:22 asoundlib version: 1.1.5
  2018/08/21 11:33:22 Found ALSA device: hw:CARD=PCH,DEV=3 - HDA Intel PCH: HDMI 0
  2018/08/21 11:33:22 Found ALSA device: hw:CARD=PCH,DEV=7 - HDA Intel PCH: HDMI 1
  2018/08/21 11:33:22 Found ALSA device: hw:CARD=PCH,DEV=8 - HDA Intel PCH: HDMI 2
  2018/08/21 11:33:22 Network Audio IPv6 support enabled
  2018/08/21 11:33:22 Discovery from ::
- 2018/08/21 11:33:24 Network engine stopping...
% 2018/08/21 11:33:24 Reloading configuration...

  2018/08/21 11:33:24 asoundlib version: 1.1.5
  2018/08/21 11:33:24 asoundlib version: 1.1.5
  2018/08/21 11:33:24 libDSP version 19.3.3
  2018/08/21 11:33:24 Number of processor cores: 4
  2018/08/21 11:33:24 DSP thread pools disabled
  2018/08/21 11:33:24 Pipelined DSP enabled
  2018/08/21 11:33:24 Audio engine: alsa
  2018/08/21 11:33:24 asoundlib version: 1.1.5
  2018/08/21 11:33:24 Set channels: 2 (2)
  2018/08/21 11:33:24 DAC bits: 24
  2018/08/21 11:33:24 ALSA output device: hw:CARD=PCH,DEV=7
  2018/08/21 11:33:24 ALSA output mixer element: IEC958
  2018/08/21 11:33:24 ALSA output mixer element: IEC958
  2018/08/21 11:33:24 ALSA output mixer element: IEC958
  2018/08/21 11:33:24 ALSA output access mode: 3
  2018/08/21 11:33:24 ALSA output PCM format: S32_LE
  2018/08/21 11:33:24 ALSA output PCM bits: 32
  2018/08/21 11:33:24 ALSA output PCM physical width: 32
  2018/08/21 11:33:24 ALSA output PCM rates: 32000 - 192000
  2018/08/21 11:33:24 ALSA output DSD not supported
  2018/08/21 11:33:24 ALSA output rate available: 32000
  2018/08/21 11:33:24 ALSA output rate available: 44100
  2018/08/21 11:33:24 ALSA output rate available: 48000
  2018/08/21 11:33:24 ALSA output rate available: 88200
  2018/08/21 11:33:24 ALSA output rate available: 96000
  2018/08/21 11:33:24 ALSA output rate available: 176400
  2018/08/21 11:33:24 ALSA output rate available: 192000
+ 2018/08/21 11:33:24 ALSA output backend initialized
! 2018/08/21 11:33:24 clPlayerDaemon::CreateEngine(): clHQPlayerEngine::Initialize(): clString::ToDouble(): not a double
- 2018/08/21 11:33:24 ALSA output backend uninitialized
% 2018/08/21 11:33:24 ...configuration reloaded
  2018/08/21 11:33:24 asoundlib version: 1.1.5
  2018/08/21 11:33:24 Found ALSA device: hw:CARD=PCH,DEV=3 - HDA Intel PCH: HDMI 0
  2018/08/21 11:33:24 Found ALSA device: hw:CARD=PCH,DEV=7 - HDA Intel PCH: HDMI 1
  2018/08/21 11:33:24 Found ALSA device: hw:CARD=PCH,DEV=8 - HDA Intel PCH: HDMI 2
  2018/08/21 11:33:24 Network Audio IPv6 support enabled
  2018/08/21 11:33:24 Discovery from ::
- 2018/08/21 11:33:26 Network engine stopping...
  2018/08/21 11:33:27 asoundlib version: 1.1.5
  2018/08/21 11:33:27 Found ALSA device: hw:CARD=PCH,DEV=3 - HDA Intel PCH: HDMI 0
  2018/08/21 11:33:27 Found ALSA device: hw:CARD=PCH,DEV=7 - HDA Intel PCH: HDMI 1
  2018/08/21 11:33:27 Found ALSA device: hw:CARD=PCH,DEV=8 - HDA Intel PCH: HDMI 2
  2018/08/21 11:33:27 Network Audio IPv6 support enabled
  2018/08/21 11:33:27 Discovery from ::
- 2018/08/21 11:33:29 Network engine stopping...
  2018/08/21 11:33:29 asoundlib version: 1.1.5
  2018/08/21 11:33:29 Found ALSA device: hw:CARD=PCH,DEV=3 - HDA Intel PCH: HDMI 0
  2018/08/21 11:33:29 Found ALSA device: hw:CARD=PCH,DEV=7 - HDA Intel PCH: HDMI 1
  2018/08/21 11:33:29 Found ALSA device: hw:CARD=PCH,DEV=8 - HDA Intel PCH: HDMI 2
  2018/08/21 11:33:29 Network Audio IPv6 support enabled
  2018/08/21 11:33:29 Discovery from ::
- 2018/08/21 11:33:31 Network engine stopping...
  2018/08/21 11:33:41 Web configuration written
  2018/08/21 11:33:41 asoundlib version: 1.1.5
  2018/08/21 11:33:41 Found ALSA device: hw:CARD=PCH,DEV=3 - HDA Intel PCH: HDMI 0
  2018/08/21 11:33:41 Found ALSA device: hw:CARD=PCH,DEV=7 - HDA Intel PCH: HDMI 1
  2018/08/21 11:33:41 Found ALSA device: hw:CARD=PCH,DEV=8 - HDA Intel PCH: HDMI 2
  2018/08/21 11:33:41 Network Audio IPv6 support enabled
  2018/08/21 11:33:41 Discovery from ::
- 2018/08/21 11:33:43 Network engine stopping...
% 2018/08/21 11:33:43 Reloading configuration...

  2018/08/21 11:33:43 asoundlib version: 1.1.5
  2018/08/21 11:33:43 asoundlib version: 1.1.5
  2018/08/21 11:33:44 libDSP version 19.3.3
  2018/08/21 11:33:44 Number of processor cores: 4
  2018/08/21 11:33:44 DSP thread pools disabled
  2018/08/21 11:33:44 Pipelined DSP enabled
  2018/08/21 11:33:44 Audio engine: network
  2018/08/21 11:33:44 Network Audio IPv6 support disabled
  2018/08/21 11:33:44 Discovery from 0.0.0.0
  2018/08/21 11:33:45 Discovered 0 Network Audio Adapters
  2018/08/21 11:33:45 Set channels: 2 (2)
! 2018/08/21 11:33:45 clPlayerDaemon::CreateEngine(): clHQPlayerEngine::Initialize(): clNetMiniEngine::Initialize(): adapter not found
- 2018/08/21 11:33:45 Network engine stopping...
% 2018/08/21 11:33:45 ...configuration reloaded
  2018/08/21 11:33:45 asoundlib version: 1.1.5
  2018/08/21 11:33:45 Found ALSA device: hw:CARD=PCH,DEV=3 - HDA Intel PCH: HDMI 0
  2018/08/21 11:33:45 Found ALSA device: hw:CARD=PCH,DEV=7 - HDA Intel PCH: HDMI 1
  2018/08/21 11:33:45 Found ALSA device: hw:CARD=PCH,DEV=8 - HDA Intel PCH: HDMI 2
  2018/08/21 11:33:45 Network Audio IPv6 support enabled
  2018/08/21 11:33:45 Discovery from ::
- 2018/08/21 11:33:47 Network engine stopping...
  2018/08/21 11:33:47 asoundlib version: 1.1.5
  2018/08/21 11:33:47 Found ALSA device: hw:CARD=PCH,DEV=3 - HDA Intel PCH: HDMI 0
  2018/08/21 11:33:47 Found ALSA device: hw:CARD=PCH,DEV=7 - HDA Intel PCH: HDMI 1
  2018/08/21 11:33:47 Found ALSA device: hw:CARD=PCH,DEV=8 - HDA Intel PCH: HDMI 2
  2018/08/21 11:33:47 Network Audio IPv6 support enabled
  2018/08/21 11:33:47 Discovery from ::
- 2018/08/21 11:33:49 Network engine stopping...
  2018/08/21 11:33:49 asoundlib version: 1.1.5
  2018/08/21 11:33:49 Found ALSA device: hw:CARD=PCH,DEV=3 - HDA Intel PCH: HDMI 0
  2018/08/21 11:33:49 Found ALSA device: hw:CARD=PCH,DEV=7 - HDA Intel PCH: HDMI 1
  2018/08/21 11:33:49 Found ALSA device: hw:CARD=PCH,DEV=8 - HDA Intel PCH: HDMI 2
  2018/08/21 11:33:49 Network Audio IPv6 support enabled
  2018/08/21 11:33:49 Discovery from ::
- 2018/08/21 11:33:51 Network engine stopping...
  2018/08/21 11:36:59 asoundlib version: 1.1.5
  2018/08/21 11:36:59 Found ALSA device: hw:CARD=PCH,DEV=3 - HDA Intel PCH: HDMI 0
  2018/08/21 11:36:59 Found ALSA device: hw:CARD=PCH,DEV=7 - HDA Intel PCH: HDMI 1
  2018/08/21 11:36:59 Found ALSA device: hw:CARD=PCH,DEV=8 - HDA Intel PCH: HDMI 2
  2018/08/21 11:36:59 Network Audio IPv6 support enabled
  2018/08/21 11:36:59 Discovery from ::
- 2018/08/21 11:37:01 Network engine stopping...
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  2018/08/21 11:33:45 Discovered 0 Network Audio Adapters
  2018/08/21 11:33:45 Set channels: 2 (2)
! 2018/08/21 11:33:45 clPlayerDaemon::CreateEngine(): clHQPlayerEngine::Initialize(): clNetMiniEngine::Initialize(): adapter not found

 

Relevant part is here. No NAA's found on the network. Please check that on both machines you have only one network interface enabled.

 

6 hours ago, Em2016 said:

 

1534008727_Screenshot(1).thumb.png.e528431e1d874e77b71cd05867f79bc5.png

 

 

Here NAA sees the discovery and responds to it, but HQPlayer doesn't receive the response. Maybe the HQPlayer machine has firewall blocking the response?

 

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Although here it was found, but something is not right if the same device is shown as "current" and still listed separately, so NAA is somehow failing to use the driver. A bit of a mystery.

 

What are you running HQPlayer Embedded on?

Signalyst - Developer of HQPlayer

Pulse & Fidelity - Software Defined Amplifiers

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4 hours ago, Miska said:

Maybe the HQPlayer machine has firewall blocking the response?

 

I temporarily disabled both Windows firewall and even router firewall, just to test. Same issue.

 

4 hours ago, Miska said:

What are you running HQPlayer Embedded on?

 

Intel NUC7i7. Should be compatible right? 

 

Roon can use the same ASIO driver and it works find. I even closed Roon Server so there would be no fighting to use the ASIO driver. No luck. 

 

 

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6 hours ago, Em2016 said:

I temporarily disabled both Windows firewall and even router firewall, just to test. Same issue.

 

 

Intel NUC7i7. Should be compatible right? 

 

Roon can use the same ASIO driver and it works find. I even closed Roon Server so there would be no fighting to use the ASIO driver. No luck. 

 

I mean what OS are you running on the HQPlayer machine? And was wandering about firewall on the HQPlayer machine.

 

I don't know, the screenshot of the HQPe doesn't seem to match with the log file.

 

Signalyst - Developer of HQPlayer

Pulse & Fidelity - Software Defined Amplifiers

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17 minutes ago, Miska said:

I mean what OS are you running on the HQPlayer machine? And was wandering about firewall on the HQPlayer machine.

 

NAA machine is Windows 10.

 

HQPe machine is running... HQPe? Your Embedded image - 4.2.1, latest version booting from USB. There is Roon ROCK Roon OS normally on that NUCi7 , if that's what you mean?

 

But HQPe boots on USB and I disabled the legacy boot (which Roon ROCK OS uses) so HQPe boots first every time.

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48 minutes ago, Em2016 said:

HQPe machine is running... HQPe? Your Embedded image - 4.2.1, latest version booting from USB. There is Roon ROCK Roon OS normally on that NUCi7 , if that's what you mean?

 

OK, I see. I asked because for example Fedora has firewall enabled by default. Anyway the screenshot and log don't seem to match. Because in screenshot the NAA is found, but the log doesn't indicate that.

 

Does the Windows NAA with Chord driver work from any other machine? The NAA daemon may not work with exactly all ASIO drivers, because it is minimal console process and passes NULL handle as the window handle.

 

Signalyst - Developer of HQPlayer

Pulse & Fidelity - Software Defined Amplifiers

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4 hours ago, Miska said:

 

OK, I see. I asked because for example Fedora has firewall enabled by default. Anyway the screenshot and log don't seem to match. Because in screenshot the NAA is found, but the log doesn't indicate that.

 

Does the Windows NAA with Chord driver work from any other machine? The NAA daemon may not work with exactly all ASIO drivers, because it is minimal console process and passes NULL handle as the window handle.

 

 

Solved. I remembered that for Roon's ROCK installation, there were some BIOS adjustments needed.


So i thought I'd load the default BIOS settings. After that I had to do was disable 'secure boot' for HQPe to boot from USB.


After that everything worked. Well worked until.... to be continued on HQPe thread ? (not your problem btw, as you will see)

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Hi @Miska or anyone that can help

 

I'm looking to setup a Windows 10 NAA but I want to disable internet access - and just keep intranet access obviously.

 

What's the quickest and easiest way to do this?

 

I want quick/easy so that I can quickly/easily re-enable internet access for when I want to manually periodically check for Windows updates etc.

 

Thanks in advance

 

 

 

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26 minutes ago, Em2016 said:

I'm looking to setup a Windows 10 NAA but I want to disable internet access - and just keep intranet access obviously.

 

What's the quickest and easiest way to do this?

 

One way is to configure manual static IP address and leave gateway address undefined. This way there shouldn't be default route pointing to the gateway address. You can verify this then with "route print".

 

You can do the same for both IPv4 and IPv6. For IPv6 you can use some local IP too, like for example fc00::1, fc00::2, etc. (64-bit prefix)

Signalyst - Developer of HQPlayer

Pulse & Fidelity - Software Defined Amplifiers

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